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Alistair, post-coronation... and/or Alistair gush thread (Origins/Awakening Spoilers)


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sylvanaerie

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OH. l lol does it come later? or should it be available too after the first scene?

If they are both supposed to show then no I didn't get it. if it comes later I didn't go any further. the Alistair teleportation kinda threw me. Let me find a later save where shes been with him a couple times already and check.

#4127
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Addai67 wrote...

Maker forgive me, I have such screenshot envy.


The Maker has seen the Thane helm, it's cool. He understands.

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SurelyForth wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Maker forgive me, I have such screenshot envy.


The Maker has seen the Thane helm, it's cool. He understands.

How in the world did you get that shot?  How do people get shots from below?  I want it.

#4129
sylvanaerie

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Okay just checked on a later save...WOW I get to PICK and choose what scene I want to play *HUGS* thanks Cmessaz! You have made Val a very happy lil pixil person!!

#4130
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Addai67, I would strongly suggest upgrading to Zevran Dialog Fix 1.7. There are a lot more fixes, and they are much better done than my first few attempts.

Edit: And besides, Charsen has gatekiss in open beta now!  

Second edit: If you don't do the upgrade, however, you will have to get the non-ZDF version as you do not have all the necessary files.

Modifié par ejoslin, 17 avril 2010 - 03:51 .


#4131
SurelyForth

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Addai67 wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Maker forgive me, I have such screenshot envy.


The Maker has seen the Thane helm, it's cool. He understands.

How in the world did you get that shot?  How do people get shots from below?  I want it.


Luck, mostly. The camera got "caught" clipping a pillar and it kicked it down. The pillar disappeared so I could get a clear shot. 

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cmessaz wrote...

Yeah, I just am not sure how to move dialogue around.

Simply hold down left mouse button when you click on the line, then drag-and-drop it onto line to which you want this one to be attached (it becomes a "child" of the line you drop it onto, so to speak)

The line always gets attached as last if there's any "children" lines already, so if you want to re-order the sequence use the same trick -- drag-and-drop them onto the parent line in the order you want them to be.

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Postin' with Alistair man crush.

#4134
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scxenophobe wrote...

Postin' with Alistair man crush.


<3  Did you, too, enter into an epic bromance with Alistair?

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Lol, dagnabit just got randomly ninja loved by Leliana in a post-game save. WTF girl, we were friends two seconds ago and you were just asking how Alistair was in bed. Click on her again and she's all "D': I HEARD ABOUT YOU AND ALISTAIR~~~~"

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tmp7704 wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Yeah, I just am not sure how to move dialogue around.

Simply hold down left mouse button when you click on the line, then drag-and-drop it onto line to which you want this one to be attached (it becomes a "child" of the line you drop it onto, so to speak)

The line always gets attached as last if there's any "children" lines already, so if you want to re-order the sequence use the same trick -- drag-and-drop them onto the parent line in the order you want them to be.

Yeah, I sort of did that for my mod. But is there a way to duplicate the "My Love" line and put it in the place of the original, but also keep it where it is in character selection? And will he still say it or lose the VO?"

Modifié par cmessaz, 17 avril 2010 - 04:05 .


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LadyDamodred

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Are you a human noble? If so, yeah. Bug.

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cmessaz

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Addai67 wrote...

I have a question cmessaz- well maybe more than one. What does the Redcliffe file do?

Also, which of ejoslin's fixes does yours include? I have her first Zevran Gates Fix only, and I think I missed subsequent "releases." So I might just start from scratch. If ejoslin is watching, I just need to remove the two party events files, correct?



I will provide more details for the Redcliffe fix and the epilogue slides shortly. I just want to make sure everything is working before I upload to nexus.

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Me? Yeah, human noble.

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Actually, I'd just like to say again if you have an older version of ZDF (older than 1.6.3 as the major change between 1.6.3 and 1.7 is how the files are organized) OR if you're using ZGDF (I know that's not TOO likely here but you never know), get ZDF 1.7.

Ok, going back to lurking here before I say something TOO Zevran here!

Edit: The last two versions of ZDF, while not out of beta, address many MANY issues in ways that actually fix the underlying problems, not just kludge something together that seems to work.  

Modifié par ejoslin, 17 avril 2010 - 04:07 .


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LadyDamodred wrote...

Are you a human noble? If so, yeah. Bug.


It's not just the human noble, by the by. I've been ninja romanced in a similar way. The lines are different since I was a mage with a non-kinged, non-hardened Alistair but it sort of hit me in the face when I zapped back to camp after beating the stuffing out of the archdemon.

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LadyDamodred wrote...

scxenophobe wrote...

Postin' with Alistair man crush.


<3  Did you, too, enter into an epic bromance with Alistair?


Indeed, the overall positive attitude and what not makes it impossible for me not to. First character in a game to remind me even remotely of myself.

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The Leliana thing actually is NOT ninja love. I did fix it recently, though it's not the prettiest fix. What was going on was that the only thing looked at for triggering her saying that is that you're getting married. I put in the condition that the romance has to be active, but the way the dialog is set up, now if you click on her, you get nothing at all.  Only one click, though.  After that, she's back to her annoying self.

HOWEVER, if you are involved with her, she now gives the proper dialog depending on whether she's hardened or not!

Edit: Ok, I'll stop talking about the complete ZDF and see what's going on in the Zev Love thread.  Hopefully sexy pictures.

Modifié par ejoslin, 17 avril 2010 - 04:16 .


#4144
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I really could use more screenshots, people! And thoughts on the next beta, still no permission for BSC, so should I make the vanilla re-playable?

Modifié par cmessaz, 17 avril 2010 - 04:14 .


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cmessaz wrote...

But is there a way to duplicate the "My Love" line and put it in the place of the original, but also keep it where it is in character selection? And will he still say it or lose the VO?"

As far as i know each of the lines have its own ID number, and the voice file will be matched using this number. So while you can duplicate lines with plain Copy & Paste only the original line will have the VO.

It would be a simple manner of making a copy of the sound file to match, except the voice bits are packed into some special format that their sound editor uses, and it seems like no one knows how to pull things from it.

The alternative is to cheat -- you can make a short cutscene (easiest way would be to "Convert to Cutscene" the duplicated line or something like that) and have a character speak that line in it (since for cutscenes you can use "speak line" command which allows to select any dialogue file and any line from it) and then go back to regular dialogue selection. It's a kludge but sadly i don't know of another way.

Modifié par tmp7704, 17 avril 2010 - 04:18 .


#4146
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Works great, and what a beautiful scene!  <3  Some actual emotion!

I'll post some screenshots shortly.

Heh, since this was with an HNF game save, I almost feel like I'm cheating on my present character.  LOL

#4147
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tmp7704 wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

But is there a way to duplicate the "My Love" line and put it in the place of the original, but also keep it where it is in character selection? And will he still say it or lose the VO?"

As far as i know each of the lines have its own ID number, and the voice file will be matched using this number. So while you can duplicate lines with plain Copy & Paste only the original line will have the VO.

It would be a simple manner of making a copy of the sound file to match, except the voice bits are packed into some special format that their sound editor uses, and it seems like no one knows how to pull things from it.

The alternative is to cheat -- you can make a short cutscene and have a character speak that line in it (since for cutscenes you can use "speak line" command which allows to select any dialogue file and any line from it) and then go back to regular dialogue selection. It's a kludge but sadly i don't know of another way.

Yeah, the cutscene editor and me....are not friends. Otherwise we would have some super smexy dwarf love going on.

#4148
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Addai67 wrote...

Works great, and what a beautiful scene!  <3  Some actual emotion!

I'll post some screenshots shortly.

Heh, since this was with an HNF game save, I almost feel like I'm cheating on my present character.  LOL

You are getting BOTH scenes, right?

#4149
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ejoslin wrote...

The Leliana thing actually is NOT ninja love. I did fix it recently, though it's not the prettiest fix. What was going on was that the only thing looked at for triggering her saying that is that you're getting married. I put in the condition that the romance has to be active, but the way the dialog is set up, now if you click on her, you get nothing at all.  Only one click, though.  After that, she's back to her annoying self.

HOWEVER, if you are involved with her, she now gives the proper dialog depending on whether she's hardened or not!

Edit: Ok, I'll stop talking about the complete ZDF and see what's going on in the Zev Love thread.  Hopefully sexy pictures.


That makes sense, unless somehow her asking me how Alistair is in bed were a romance trigger for her. Which would be insanely creepy :P

#4150
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We don't have a nudity mod, sorry if anyone is offended by my PC's bra.  :)

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Modifié par Addai67, 17 avril 2010 - 04:25 .