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I'm not sure how she'll take that incident in Haven. It would be in her personality to beat him, then tell him to leave. That's a very "pack leader" moment though, I need to figure out why she'd let him stay.

Simple desperation could always work in a pinch.  Idun defended Morrigan in the Tower and hence Wynne is with the Maker, but I generally take followers even if I never use them.  Makes camp look less lonely.

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I just have a feeling my recruiting plans are shot. I can't refuse Leliana the second time if Alistair begs. I'd planned to only have Alistair, Morrigan, Sten, and Dog. Zevran, sadly, is going to be likely killed when he attacks her. Wynne is NOT coming. And I guess I'm just stuck with Oghren.

Shale?

Why not just switch him out of your party right before you leave so that it's only Sten, Morrigan, and Dog who either don't care or you can refuse him?

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Snack time in the class room is a great time to browse the forums. *grins*


Holy cow, when will your school year end? 


Quickly, while they're at recess!

Next week is our last week.  Thursday/Friday are two half days.  A tad later than usual this year b/c we started a bit later, and there were a couple snow days.

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Spamming SurelyForth's epic screenshot to commemorate the fact that Idun is at level 14, I re-spec'ed Alistair to dual-wield just after Lothering, but forgot to re-set his tactics to DW tactics until last night.  *facepalm*

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Hehe this is one benefit to teaching college classes next semester, Lady D. Our semesters are much shorter! I'm actually going to get the Christmas break off, I'm not going to know what to do with myself!

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And you know, I'm going to have to see into this Gheyna calling the Dalish Warden an outsider. I don't remember her doing that!


It was during the Cammen thing. I used the persuade options and asked her why HE had to do all the work...lol, when she goes to him she says the outsider has shown her blah blah.

That's just the default dialgoue whereas earlier in the conversation she has Dalish-specific ones. I'm sure that if she were actually talking about a Dalish Warden then she wouldn't call you that.


Regardless it still works. You're still treated like an outsider because you are with humans fropm the time you enter, and have left your clan. Whether it's intentional or a bug doesn't matter, it reinforces the "can't go home" idea. Sometimes a conversational glitch can help.

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Hehe this is one benefit to teaching college classes next semester, Lady D. Our semesters are much shorter! I'm actually going to get the Christmas break off, I'm not going to know what to do with myself!


Yes, I know.  But I have no desire to teach college.

Also, browsing while in the classroom has an added element of danger!

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Addai67 wrote...

Spamming SurelyForth's epic screenshot to commemorate the fact that Idun is at level 14, I re-spec'ed Alistair to dual-wield just after Lothering, but forgot to re-set his tactics to DW tactics until last night.  *facepalm*

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Yay!

I respecced Nate to DW the first time I played through Awakening and kept his tactics for Archer. D'oh! It certainly explained why he was always hanging out by Anders during battle. I thought for awhile they might have a thing...Posted Image

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Addai67 wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...
I just have a feeling my recruiting plans are shot. I can't refuse Leliana the second time if Alistair begs. I'd planned to only have Alistair, Morrigan, Sten, and Dog. Zevran, sadly, is going to be likely killed when he attacks her. Wynne is NOT coming. And I guess I'm just stuck with Oghren.

Shale?

Why not just switch him out of your party right before you leave so that it's only Sten, Morrigan, and Dog who either don't care or you can refuse him?


Who Shale? Noone cares if you refuse her. I'm just not going to the area at all.

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Lady Jess wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

Sandtigress wrote...

And you know, I'm going to have to see into this Gheyna calling the Dalish Warden an outsider. I don't remember her doing that!


It was during the Cammen thing. I used the persuade options and asked her why HE had to do all the work...lol, when she goes to him she says the outsider has shown her blah blah.

That's just the default dialgoue whereas earlier in the conversation she has Dalish-specific ones. I'm sure that if she were actually talking about a Dalish Warden then she wouldn't call you that.


Regardless it still works. You're still treated like an outsider because you are with humans fropm the time you enter, and have left your clan. Whether it's intentional or a bug doesn't matter, it reinforces the "can't go home" idea. Sometimes a conversational glitch can help.

I'm not saying that the Dalish don't treat you like an outsider even if you are one, I just don't think that particular one was intentional. It's kind of like how Harrowmont felt the need to explain to my DN what the Assembly was. It was just the default line no matter how ridiculous and immersion-breaking the thought of not already knowing what it was is.

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Alright, how does one side with the werewolves. Caislyn is going to do it. And if there's a way to do so before going into those damned ruins I'd like to. Otherwise I've got to do the bidding of a friggin tree.

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Lady Jess wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...
I just have a feeling my recruiting plans are shot. I can't refuse Leliana the second time if Alistair begs. I'd planned to only have Alistair, Morrigan, Sten, and Dog. Zevran, sadly, is going to be likely killed when he attacks her. Wynne is NOT coming. And I guess I'm just stuck with Oghren.

Shale?

Why not just switch him out of your party right before you leave so that it's only Sten, Morrigan, and Dog who either don't care or you can refuse him?


Who Shale? Noone cares if you refuse her. I'm just not going to the area at all.

No, I meant Leliana. I know some people like having Alistair in their party the entire game but surely if you remove him for five minutes so as to not cave in about Leliana then it would be worth it, right? 

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Sarah1281 wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

Sandtigress wrote...

And you know, I'm going to have to see into this Gheyna calling the Dalish Warden an outsider. I don't remember her doing that!


It was during the Cammen thing. I used the persuade options and asked her why HE had to do all the work...lol, when she goes to him she says the outsider has shown her blah blah.

That's just the default dialgoue whereas earlier in the conversation she has Dalish-specific ones. I'm sure that if she were actually talking about a Dalish Warden then she wouldn't call you that.


Regardless it still works. You're still treated like an outsider because you are with humans fropm the time you enter, and have left your clan. Whether it's intentional or a bug doesn't matter, it reinforces the "can't go home" idea. Sometimes a conversational glitch can help.

I'm not saying that the Dalish don't treat you like an outsider even if you are one, I just don't think that particular one was intentional. It's kind of like how Harrowmont felt the need to explain to my DN what the Assembly was. It was just the default line no matter how ridiculous and immersion-breaking the thought of not already knowing what it was is.


Yeah I hated that. I went :blink::?:pinched: in real life when he did that.  Luckily the one with Gheyna fits right into Lyra's rp.

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Why in god's name did a 6 year old just come up to me and say Dragon Age was his favorite game?



Why?!



What is wrong with parents?!

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Sarah1281 wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...
I just have a feeling my recruiting plans are shot. I can't refuse Leliana the second time if Alistair begs. I'd planned to only have Alistair, Morrigan, Sten, and Dog. Zevran, sadly, is going to be likely killed when he attacks her. Wynne is NOT coming. And I guess I'm just stuck with Oghren.

Shale?

Why not just switch him out of your party right before you leave so that it's only Sten, Morrigan, and Dog who either don't care or you can refuse him?


Who Shale? Noone cares if you refuse her. I'm just not going to the area at all.

No, I meant Leliana. I know some people like having Alistair in their party the entire game but surely if you remove him for five minutes so as to not cave in about Leliana then it would be worth it, right? 


Oh, right, hadn't thought of that. i jut figured I'd succumb to the "princess stabbity stabbity" speech because he makes Lyra laugh for the first time since duncan dragged her to ostagar, then have an "I told you so!" moment when Leliana gives her elf talk. It's fairly realistic to have people helping you that you don't really like, but put up with for the greater good.

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LadyDamodred wrote...

Why in god's name did a 6 year old just come up to me and say Dragon Age was his favorite game?

Why?!

What is wrong with parents?!


Give me context.

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SurelyForth wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Spamming SurelyForth's epic screenshot to commemorate the fact that Idun is at level 14, I re-spec'ed Alistair to dual-wield just after Lothering, but forgot to re-set his tactics to DW tactics until last night.  *facepalm*


Yay!

I respecced Nate to DW the first time I played through Awakening and kept his tactics for Archer. D'oh! It certainly explained why he was always hanging out by Anders during battle. I thought for awhile they might have a thing...Posted Image

LOL

I couldn't re-spec Nate, he just sings too much with a bow in his hand.  Poor Sigrun is usually my only melee fighter in a party of Anders + mage PC + Nathaniel.

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I couldn't re-spec Nate, he just sings too much with a bow in his hand.  Poor Sigrun is usually my only melee fighter in a party of Anders + mage PC + Nathaniel.


I've decided that, from here on out, Nate gets to keep his bow. Awakening is easy enough (and Anders is Destructo enough) that I don't need three human blenders. I keep myself limited to one or two in the party.

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Lady Jess wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...
I just have a feeling my recruiting plans are shot. I can't refuse Leliana the second time if Alistair begs. I'd planned to only have Alistair, Morrigan, Sten, and Dog. Zevran, sadly, is going to be likely killed when he attacks her. Wynne is NOT coming. And I guess I'm just stuck with Oghren.

Shale?

Why not just switch him out of your party right before you leave so that it's only Sten, Morrigan, and Dog who either don't care or you can refuse him?


Who Shale? Noone cares if you refuse her. I'm just not going to the area at all.

No, I meant Leliana. I know some people like having Alistair in their party the entire game but surely if you remove him for five minutes so as to not cave in about Leliana then it would be worth it, right? 


Oh, right, hadn't thought of that. i jut figured I'd succumb to the "princess stabbity stabbity" speech because he makes Lyra laugh for the first time since duncan dragged her to ostagar, then have an "I told you so!" moment when Leliana gives her elf talk. It's fairly realistic to have people helping you that you don't really like, but put up with for the greater good.

But you don't really know it's for the greater good at that point. Leliana comes off as just a crazy Chantry sister who believes the Maker wants her to follow you around and who might be decent with a dagger (although I doubt she contributed much to the fight given how pathetic her weapon was) so it's not like you have much reason to allow her to follow you in the first place if you don't want her to.

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Herr Uhl wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

Why in god's name did a 6 year old just come up to me and say Dragon Age was his favorite game?

Why?!

What is wrong with parents?!


Give me context.


He saw the DA logo, and went "That's my favorite game!  My dad gave it to me!"

He is 6.  In first grade.  Wtf?

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LadyDamodred wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

Why in god's name did a 6 year old just come up to me and say Dragon Age was his favorite game?

Why?!

What is wrong with parents?!


Give me context.


He saw the DA logo, and went "That's my favorite game!  My dad gave it to me!"

He is 6.  In first grade.  Wtf?


I wonder how he plays it. I suspect that the dad got it for himself though.

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Herr Uhl wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

Why in god's name did a 6 year old just come up to me and say Dragon Age was his favorite game?

Why?!

What is wrong with parents?!


Give me context.


He saw the DA logo, and went "That's my favorite game!  My dad gave it to me!"

He is 6.  In first grade.  Wtf?


I wonder how he plays it. I suspect that the dad got it for himself though.


Yes, he said dad gave it to him when dad got tired of playing it.  And he added "Let's pretend this conversation never happened b/c my mom will get really mad."

I need a sad Alistair to despair over humanity with me.

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LadyDamodred wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

Why in god's name did a 6 year old just come up to me and say Dragon Age was his favorite game?

Why?!

What is wrong with parents?!


Give me context.


He saw the DA logo, and went "That's my favorite game!  My dad gave it to me!"

He is 6.  In first grade.  Wtf?


Heh....if this is "Dad plays the game and let's son watch but hides the M stuff" that's not so bad....but dad gives 6yo son M game to play on his own....bleh.

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Sarah1281 wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...
I just have a feeling my recruiting plans are shot. I can't refuse Leliana the second time if Alistair begs. I'd planned to only have Alistair, Morrigan, Sten, and Dog. Zevran, sadly, is going to be likely killed when he attacks her. Wynne is NOT coming. And I guess I'm just stuck with Oghren.

Shale?

Why not just switch him out of your party right before you leave so that it's only Sten, Morrigan, and Dog who either don't care or you can refuse him?


Who Shale? Noone cares if you refuse her. I'm just not going to the area at all.

No, I meant Leliana. I know some people like having Alistair in their party the entire game but surely if you remove him for five minutes so as to not cave in about Leliana then it would be worth it, right? 


Oh, right, hadn't thought of that. i jut figured I'd succumb to the "princess stabbity stabbity" speech because he makes Lyra laugh for the first time since duncan dragged her to ostagar, then have an "I told you so!" moment when Leliana gives her elf talk. It's fairly realistic to have people helping you that you don't really like, but put up with for the greater good.

But you don't really know it's for the greater good at that point. Leliana comes off as just a crazy Chantry sister who believes the Maker wants her to follow you around and who might be decent with a dagger (although I doubt she contributed much to the fight given how pathetic her weapon was) so it's not like you have much reason to allow her to follow you in the first place if you don't want her to.


But you DO know you need all the help you can get. Plus you also know that Lothering is going to be consumed by the darkspawn, Either Alistair or Morrigan says this on your way out. My blood mage can leave her to die for those reasons (crazy chantry zealot), but I doubt Lyra will, the more I think about it.

I can't see her being arrogant enough to not take help when it's offered at that point, add to that Alistair's comments.

I'll leave the arrogant, stfu crazy chantry nut, to Jaina.

But Zev and Wynne are still not coming.

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I understand needing all the help you can get but a quick fight that lasts for two minutes at most when she's not wearing proper fighting clothes and has merely a dagger isn't going to necessarily prove her to be more of an asset than a liability.



Do you think not taking Leliana leaves her to die? She'd still have time to evacuate and no reason to stay in Lothering once she's ready to leave and you've already rejected her twice. I tend to think she gets out fine. Sten, OTOH, is doomed if you don't bring him along.