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Lady Jess wrote...

Thinking about just playing my blood mage, taking a break from the Alistair love and good girls for a bit. If anything she'll get alot of eyebrows and Angrystair...lol


Gotta have some kind of motivation to keep from romancing the boy, that's for sure...

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Lady Jess wrote...

Bah nothing like finding the perfect blood mage robe/battle gear and realizing only STEN can wear it. It's the perfect colors too.

http://www.dragonage...ile.php?id=1185

Try using the upgrade wand to remove the requirements?

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NM it is probably quanari textures only .....

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Addai67 wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

klarabella wrote...
:huh: Breasts. Wow. :o All mine to touch! :wub: *squeeze*


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OMG Don't do this to me, I'm at work and have to maintain a veneer of respectability.  Spitting coffee on my screen doesn't help.


My god, this thread is way too fast for me...I literally fell on the floor with this :o

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I need to play my Brosca, but I've been doing stuff the last few days. It's a shame, because she's absolutely beautiful and I need to play her:wub:

Heh. I told myself I could make a new in-game avatar for her today if I had time because her black hair on the default avatar just fades into the background.  So that'll be fun if nothing else!

Currently in Deep Roads. Gonna side with Bhelen on this run. I *know* he's better for the dwarves in the long run, but it sucks to turn my back on Harrowmont like that when he is a good man that has gone out of his way to help me.

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Finiffa wrote...

NM it is probably quanari textures only .....


Yeah, and if not that it's certainly male only. And I have yet to learn to retint in photoshop, and the toolset, or to customize stats etc. So epic fail for me...lol

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*whispers* It's so quiet today....

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Lady Jess wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

I can't decide who to play...sigh

This is why I don't allow myself to play other characters until I've finished my current run. I wanted to play with my Brosca since I was so excited about her new hairstyle, but I was worried I'd get too far with her and forget where I left off with my DN.


noone's past Ostagar/Lothering yet, except my Dalish. SShe's at the first real camp after recruiting Zev and learning Alistair's secret. The ducked back out of Redcliffe after he told her that, and will probably go to the Dalish first. Also, Eamon made me like him in Caislyn's playthrough. Damn him. I threw out the "why can't Alistair just marry Anora?" and he gives me "I see the way he looks at you..." That could essentially talk you right out of THAT plan, with his support!

I didn't like that part. Is Eamon saying that he's in favor of you being Alistair's mistress even though he needs a wife at some point or is he using your relationship as an excuse to keep Anora off the throne even though he'll want you out of the picture later? 

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I just got up and am getting ready for work.



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Good Morning!

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As much fun as Lyra was starting to be, I have the urge to play my Cousland...


I love this little smile! :wub:

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Gilsa wrote...

Kryyptehk wrote...

I need to play my Brosca, but I've been doing stuff the last few days. It's a shame, because she's absolutely beautiful and I need to play her:wub:

Heh. I told myself I could make a new in-game avatar for her today if I had time because her black hair on the default avatar just fades into the background.  So that'll be fun if nothing else!

Currently in Deep Roads. Gonna side with Bhelen on this run. I *know* he's better for the dwarves in the long run, but it sucks to turn my back on Harrowmont like that when he is a good man that has gone out of his way to help me.

It's especially bad if you talk to Dulin and say 'I have nothing to say to the usurper' and he's all 'oh, you mean when he pissed Bhelen off by insisting on defending you months after everyone else thought you were dead.' Damn, Dulin is like 1000X more persuasive and 'pick my candidate!' than Vartag is. I'm still not sure what Bhelen was thinking besides 'I may need a fall guy.'

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Sarah1281 wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

I can't decide who to play...sigh

This is why I don't allow myself to play other characters until I've finished my current run. I wanted to play with my Brosca since I was so excited about her new hairstyle, but I was worried I'd get too far with her and forget where I left off with my DN.


noone's past Ostagar/Lothering yet, except my Dalish. SShe's at the first real camp after recruiting Zev and learning Alistair's secret. The ducked back out of Redcliffe after he told her that, and will probably go to the Dalish first. Also, Eamon made me like him in Caislyn's playthrough. Damn him. I threw out the "why can't Alistair just marry Anora?" and he gives me "I see the way he looks at you..." That could essentially talk you right out of THAT plan, with his support!

I didn't like that part. Is Eamon saying that he's in favor of you being Alistair's mistress even though he needs a wife at some point or is he using your relationship as an excuse to keep Anora off the throne even though he'll want you out of the picture later? 


I kind of think it's Eamon being Eamon.  He cares about what Alistair wants and about Alistair himself, but in the end, that's secondary to the good of the throne.  He mentions it because he knows Alistair will protest the arrangement given how he feels about the Warden, but won't oppose it even so because it's the easiest route to political security, with Theirin blood and Anora's savvy.

Basically, it's Eamon failing at trying to be caring like he always does. 

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Sarah1281 wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

I can't decide who to play...sigh

This is why I don't allow myself to play other characters until I've finished my current run. I wanted to play with my Brosca since I was so excited about her new hairstyle, but I was worried I'd get too far with her and forget where I left off with my DN.


noone's past Ostagar/Lothering yet, except my Dalish. SShe's at the first real camp after recruiting Zev and learning Alistair's secret. The ducked back out of Redcliffe after he told her that, and will probably go to the Dalish first. Also, Eamon made me like him in Caislyn's playthrough. Damn him. I threw out the "why can't Alistair just marry Anora?" and he gives me "I see the way he looks at you..." That could essentially talk you right out of THAT plan, with his support!

I didn't like that part. Is Eamon saying that he's in favor of you being Alistair's mistress even though he needs a wife at some point or is he using your relationship as an excuse to keep Anora off the throne even though he'll want you out of the picture later? 


I saw it as more being observant Alistair's feelings about the PC, and was questioning putting Anora between them. You cannot be a mistress if Alistair is unmarried, so no, I wouldn't agree he is/isn't in favor of you being one. Any pc that chose stay in the relationshp with Alistair if he married,would THEN be a mistress, but if/when I finally do that ending, and IF bioware (which is not likely to happen, they don't seem to give a crap and a half about this stuff) ever goes "Surprise! Alistair got married!!" would then step aside and STILL not be a mistress.

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Sandtigress wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

I can't decide who to play...sigh

This is why I don't allow myself to play other characters until I've finished my current run. I wanted to play with my Brosca since I was so excited about her new hairstyle, but I was worried I'd get too far with her and forget where I left off with my DN.


noone's past Ostagar/Lothering yet, except my Dalish. SShe's at the first real camp after recruiting Zev and learning Alistair's secret. The ducked back out of Redcliffe after he told her that, and will probably go to the Dalish first. Also, Eamon made me like him in Caislyn's playthrough. Damn him. I threw out the "why can't Alistair just marry Anora?" and he gives me "I see the way he looks at you..." That could essentially talk you right out of THAT plan, with his support!

I didn't like that part. Is Eamon saying that he's in favor of you being Alistair's mistress even though he needs a wife at some point or is he using your relationship as an excuse to keep Anora off the throne even though he'll want you out of the picture later? 


I kind of think it's Eamon being Eamon.  He cares about what Alistair wants and about Alistair himself, but in the end, that's secondary to the good of the throne.  He mentions it because he knows Alistair will protest the arrangement given how he feels about the Warden, but won't oppose it even so because it's the easiest route to political security, with Theirin blood and Anora's savvy.

Basically, it's Eamon failing at trying to be caring like he always does. 


lol yes what She said

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Sarah1281 wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

Kryyptehk wrote...

I need to play my Brosca, but I've been doing stuff the last few days. It's a shame, because she's absolutely beautiful and I need to play her:wub:

Heh. I told myself I could make a new in-game avatar for her today if I had time because her black hair on the default avatar just fades into the background.  So that'll be fun if nothing else!

Currently in Deep Roads. Gonna side with Bhelen on this run. I *know* he's better for the dwarves in the long run, but it sucks to turn my back on Harrowmont like that when he is a good man that has gone out of his way to help me.

It's especially bad if you talk to Dulin and say 'I have nothing to say to the usurper' and he's all 'oh, you mean when he pissed Bhelen off by insisting on defending you months after everyone else thought you were dead.' Damn, Dulin is like 1000X more persuasive and 'pick my candidate!' than Vartag is. I'm still not sure what Bhelen was thinking besides 'I may need a fall guy.'

I comfort myself by knowing that at least my canon dwarf sided with Harrowmont. Damn KoP and Costin's pragmatism and sneers. =p

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Gilsa wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

It's especially bad if you talk to Dulin and say 'I have nothing to say to the usurper' and he's all 'oh, you mean when he pissed Bhelen off by insisting on defending you months after everyone else thought you were dead.' Damn, Dulin is like 1000X more persuasive and 'pick my candidate!' than Vartag is. I'm still not sure what Bhelen was thinking besides 'I may need a fall guy.'

I comfort myself by knowing that at least my canon dwarf sided with Harrowmont. Damn KoP and Costin's pragmatism and sneers. =p

Harrowmont isn't that bad if there is no anvil. There just is a lack of things happening.

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Lady Jess wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

I can't decide who to play...sigh

This is why I don't allow myself to play other characters until I've finished my current run. I wanted to play with my Brosca since I was so excited about her new hairstyle, but I was worried I'd get too far with her and forget where I left off with my DN.


noone's past Ostagar/Lothering yet, except my Dalish. SShe's at the first real camp after recruiting Zev and learning Alistair's secret. The ducked back out of Redcliffe after he told her that, and will probably go to the Dalish first. Also, Eamon made me like him in Caislyn's playthrough. Damn him. I threw out the "why can't Alistair just marry Anora?" and he gives me "I see the way he looks at you..." That could essentially talk you right out of THAT plan, with his support!

I didn't like that part. Is Eamon saying that he's in favor of you being Alistair's mistress even though he needs a wife at some point or is he using your relationship as an excuse to keep Anora off the throne even though he'll want you out of the picture later? 


I saw it as more being observant Alistair's feelings about the PC, and was questioning putting Anora between them. You cannot be a mistress if Alistair is unmarried, so no, I wouldn't agree he is/isn't in favor of you being one. Any pc that chose stay in the relationshp with Alistair if he married,would THEN be a mistress, but if/when I finally do that ending, and IF bioware (which is not likely to happen, they don't seem to give a crap and a half about this stuff) ever goes "Surprise! Alistair got married!!" would then step aside and STILL not be a mistress.


While keeping in mind this has nothing to do with anyone's PC or what could happen in the future, Eamon really doesn't want to lose the Theirin bloodline and almost did once already so one of the first things that I think he's going to be concerned with is getting Alistair married to try for heirs. Regardless of whether or not Alistair does this, that's probably Eamon's plan so if he supports you staying with Alistair then he would have to be in support of you being the mistress to the married-to-whoever-Eamon-feels-is-appropriate Queen.

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Gilsa wrote...
I comfort myself by knowing that at least my canon dwarf sided with Harrowmont. Damn KoP and Costin's pragmatism and sneers. =p


Hear, hear!  ^_^

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Yeah, the mistress label does not even enter my mind. I don't understand the attitude that you've gone from a legendary warden to a tart on the side if Alistair becomes king and keeps his relationship with you. It would make sense if Anora was staying in the picture, but other than that, it just means your boyfriend landed a very cushy job, nothing more. =p



Keep in mind that I largely view these events from a dwarf perspective. I don't really think about what it's like as a human noble and can forget some things because of that. Gorim was my second and I never thought any less of him because we couldn't be together openly. I would have just ruled as solo queen and kept seeing Gorim if we weren't allowed to marry. I realize the heir issue complicates things, but it's just talk. Kings come and go. Someone else will replace Alistair if no heir comes forward and the people will still survive the drama. The dwarven assembly picks the king so even if I had a heir for the dwarf throne, it didn't mean that my heir would get the position. I like that they would still give the position to someone worthy, even a casteless.

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Herr Uhl wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

It's especially bad if you talk to Dulin and say 'I have nothing to say to the usurper' and he's all 'oh, you mean when he pissed Bhelen off by insisting on defending you months after everyone else thought you were dead.' Damn, Dulin is like 1000X more persuasive and 'pick my candidate!' than Vartag is. I'm still not sure what Bhelen was thinking besides 'I may need a fall guy.'

I comfort myself by knowing that at least my canon dwarf sided with Harrowmont. Damn KoP and Costin's pragmatism and sneers. =p

Harrowmont isn't that bad if there is no anvil. There just is a lack of things happening.

I know. Everyone always acts like he singlehandedly destroys Orzammar by...adding a bit more isolation that can easily be undone by whoever succeeds him.

And while I like siding with Bhelen as a DN because it's some nice origin-specific dialogue (much more so than Harrowmont and his 'so this is what the Assembly is and this is what a Paragon is, Lady Aeducan') I'm much more inclined to side with Harrowmont but if I were planning on staying on the Surface then I wouldn't.

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Gilsa wrote...

Yeah, the mistress label does not even enter my mind. I don't understand the attitude that you've gone from a legendary warden to a tart on the side if Alistair becomes king and keeps his relationship with you. It would make sense if Anora was staying in the picture, but other than that, it just means your boyfriend landed a very cushy job, nothing more. =p

Keep in mind that I largely view these events from a dwarf perspective. I don't really think about what it's like as a human noble and can forget some things because of that. Gorim was my second and I never thought any less of him because we couldn't be together openly. I would have just ruled as solo queen and kept seeing Gorim if we weren't allowed to marry. I realize the heir issue complicates things, but it's just talk. Kings come and go. Someone else will replace Alistair if no heir comes forward and the people will still survive the drama. The dwarven assembly picks the king so even if I had a heir for the dwarf throne, it didn't mean that my heir would get the position. I like that they would still give the position to someone worthy, even a casteless.

If my HN isn't in the picture then Anora always is which makes you either the Baizyl or the Rica in that scenario which can very easily offend your pride. Not to mention that I don't believe he'll stay single and didn't like having to hide a relationship so wouldn't be willing to do it again.

Still, I'd like to make this clear:
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Edit: Of course, excessive pride is one of her character flaws so people without that particular foible may not be as concerned.

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Gilsa wrote...

Yeah, the mistress label does not even enter my mind. I don't understand the attitude that you've gone from a legendary warden to a tart on the side if Alistair becomes king and keeps his relationship with you. It would make sense if Anora was staying in the picture, but other than that, it just means your boyfriend landed a very cushy job, nothing more. =p


Then there is the thing that he will probably have to marry someone sooner or later, and try to impregnate said person. If that fails there at least is a family of the Queen to prevent a succession war.

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I know. Everyone always acts like he singlehandedly destroys Orzammar by...adding a bit more isolation that can easily be undone by whoever succeeds him.

You hit the nail on the head. EXACTLY!!

Plus what doesn't really get discussed is that Harrowmont isn't doing anything different than what King Endrin did. If you sneer at Harrowmont's policies, then you're sneering at the father who maintained the status quo. I am a little surprised at how little King Endrin gets discussed (other than his role in letting his child die in the Deep Roads to cover up a family scandal). I roleplayed my noble as someone who loved and respected her father very much so he had to know what he was doing when he chose Harrowmont to keep things going. The fact that he rejected Bhelen carried some weight.

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Pfft, Sarah, you don't need to use that picture with me. We've been friends long enough to know what the other person is really saying. =p

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Herr Uhl wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

Yeah, the mistress label does not even enter my mind. I don't understand the attitude that you've gone from a legendary warden to a tart on the side if Alistair becomes king and keeps his relationship with you. It would make sense if Anora was staying in the picture, but other than that, it just means your boyfriend landed a very cushy job, nothing more. =p


Then there is the thing that he will probably have to marry someone sooner or later, and try to impregnate said person. If that fails there at least is a family of the Queen to prevent a succession war.

This is true. I'd like to cross that bridge when I get to it (if it gets addressed in a sequel, which I have high doubts). I think they want to move the game forward, not tie up loose ends in origins so I view my actions in origins as if it's a stand-alone game. I can fill in the blanks for my personal games after the epilogue cards unless they really do expand upon this. Otherwise I want new romances, new stories, and so on!