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DahliaLynn wrote...

I have had a male opinion of the video, and he said some pretty valid points. He mentioned that Alistair looks way too secure in this video. The man doesn't really know what to do, and is usually embarrassed.He mentions an example that I should withdraw his gaze for a moment (in embarrassment). It is true..he does look quite secure..although loving to see the fems body for the first time , all his moves turn out too smooth and sure of himself. What do you think?


I can see that point, and actually, personally, I'd love it if he were a bit (or heck a lot) more shy, because at least for me his lack of confidence in his own appeal is one of the things I love most about him.  I love all his hesistance and insecurity when it comes to the female PC, but he's also quite willing to be bold and swoop her for a kiss even when she's hesistant.

So I guess I'd go for a mix of the two things - some hesitation, but also a little something to show that he's willing to be bold to get what he wants sometimes.

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DahliaLynn wrote...

I have had a male opinion of the video, and he said some pretty valid points. He mentioned that Alistair looks way too secure in this video. The man doesn't really know what to do, and is usually embarrassed.He mentions an example that I should withdraw his gaze for a moment (in embarrassment). It is true..he does look quite secure..although loving to see the fems body for the first time , all his moves turn out too smooth and sure of himself. What do you think?

I think it's perfect.

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DahliaLynn wrote...

I have had a male opinion of the video, and he said some pretty valid points. He mentioned that Alistair looks way too secure in this video. The man doesn't really know what to do, and is usually embarrassed.He mentions an example that I should withdraw his gaze for a moment (in embarrassment). It is true..he does look quite secure..although loving to see the fems body for the first time , all his moves turn out too smooth and sure of himself. What do you think?

He looks much more (appropriately) unsure of himself in your scene than in the vanilla scene.  I dunno, I think the virgin thing can be overdone.  Even virgins who haven't been exposed to reams of porn, like most teenage boys nowadays I suppose, do figure it out!

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DahliaLynn wrote...

I have had a male opinion of the video, and he said some pretty valid points. He mentioned that Alistair looks way too secure in this video. The man doesn't really know what to do, and is usually embarrassed.He mentions an example that I should withdraw his gaze for a moment (in embarrassment). It is true..he does look quite secure..although loving to see the fems body for the first time , all his moves turn out too smooth and sure of himself. What do you think?

I didn't think of it like that until you pointed it out. I would like to say that I viewed the video as Alistair being with someone he greatly trusted and thus would be a little more confident about not being rejected. If anyone is having mercy sex with Alistair so he doesn't lose his virginity to Morrigan, I would think they're not downloading this mod in the first place. The people who go through the trouble of having the Alistair mod are the ones who want to get the most mileage they can out of the romance. I thought the original was beautiful as it was, but you have such good taste that I'm sure any first time pulling back due to embarrassment would be handled just as beautifully. I just don't want you to doubt your work because a man who doesn't romance Alistair has a different PoV. =p

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Serissia wrote...

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Wow, that looks totally different than mine does from Warden's Keep.  I'm using TMP's tints.  Mine shows up as a dark blue and tan.  I don't have any saves up to Warden's Keep at the moment though.

I took out tmp's tints for the screenshots so he can see what they look like by default. I don't think his tint mod would affect these anyway since his notes says that he leaves dragonbone untouched since they're supposed to be hard to get armor.

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Gilsa wrote...

DahliaLynn wrote...

I have had a male opinion of the video, and he said some pretty valid points. He mentioned that Alistair looks way too secure in this video. The man doesn't really know what to do, and is usually embarrassed.He mentions an example that I should withdraw his gaze for a moment (in embarrassment). It is true..he does look quite secure..although loving to see the fems body for the first time , all his moves turn out too smooth and sure of himself. What do you think?

I didn't think of it like that until you pointed it out. I would like to say that I viewed the video as Alistair being with someone he greatly trusted and thus would be a little more confident about not being rejected. If anyone is having mercy sex with Alistair so he doesn't lose his virginity, I would think they're not downloading this mod in the first place. The people who go through the trouble of having the Alistair mod are the ones who want to get the most mileage they can out of the romance. I thought the original was beautiful as it was, but you have such good taste that I'm sure any first time pulling back due to embarrassment would be handled just as beautifully. I just don't want you to doubt your work because a man who doesn't romance Alistair has a different PoV. =p

Exactly.

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Gilsa wrote...

Only posting this to wrap up my conversation with tmp about Warden Keep's armor. The only unique leather stuff I saw at WK was studded leather so here's the subtle differences. Not as dramatic as plate armor, but there it is.

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Ahh thanks Posted Image  since the mesh actually gets affected by the unisex armour mod i'd guess they just either gave it separate, custom tint or maybe just removed it altogether and allowed the underlying textures show up. But either way it does appear to be separate item (since gets different icon and such) so that'd explain it.

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I so hate the dirty pantaloon look of the leather armors in vanilla >.<

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Gilsa wrote...

I took out tmp's tints for the screenshots so he can see what they look like by default. I don't think his tint mod would affect these anyway since his notes says that he leaves dragonbone untouched since they're supposed to be hard to get armor.

Technically the dragonbone/drakeleather tint does change it from the default colours too, it just doesn't reduce the intensity like the others since the dragons/drakes which are supposed to be source of the material are pretty intense colour-wise too plus it's that rarity faction you mention so i thought it's ok for this one to stand out in such way Posted Image

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Just out of curiosity, why no warden's keep for you? Are you planning on getting the Leliana DLC?

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Ha! I finally got a good action SS. Is using Fraps cheating? But I thought I'd share.
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Gilsa wrote...
I took out tmp's tints for the screenshots so he can see what they look like by default. I don't think his tint mod would affect these anyway since his notes says that he leaves dragonbone untouched since they're supposed to be hard to get armor.


I'm curious now.  I'll go check.

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OH WOW, that is a great shot!!



No, fraps is not cheating! In fact, to increase your odds of getting better shots, you can check the "repeat screen capture" box and put in 1 second so fraps is taking a screenshot every second for you (rather than you pounding the screenshot button relentlessly) when a cutscene is playing out. You can just review the shots later and delete the ones that don't do anything for you.

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Gilsa wrote...

DahliaLynn wrote...

I have had a male opinion of the video, and he said some pretty valid points. He mentioned that Alistair looks way too secure in this video. The man doesn't really know what to do, and is usually embarrassed.He mentions an example that I should withdraw his gaze for a moment (in embarrassment). It is true..he does look quite secure..although loving to see the fems body for the first time , all his moves turn out too smooth and sure of himself. What do you think?

I didn't think of it like that until you pointed it out. I would like to say that I viewed the video as Alistair being with someone he greatly trusted and thus would be a little more confident about not being rejected. If anyone is having mercy sex with Alistair so he doesn't lose his virginity to Morrigan, I would think they're not downloading this mod in the first place. The people who go through the trouble of having the Alistair mod are the ones who want to get the most mileage they can out of the romance. I thought the original was beautiful as it was, but you have such good taste that I'm sure any first time pulling back due to embarrassment would be handled just as beautifully. I just don't want you to doubt your work because a man who doesn't romance Alistair has a different PoV. =p


Gilsa says it perfectly and much better than I can.  I agree.  Even virgins (esp one as curious and adventurous as Alistair) can get it right off the bat.  Its instinct.  And Alistair trusts the PC (even if she's leading him on for the lulz) but then that kind of player wouldn't be downloading this mod anyway.  I say leave it alone, its just perfect as it is.Posted Image

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sylvanaerie wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

DahliaLynn wrote...

I have had a male opinion of the video, and he said some pretty valid points. He mentioned that Alistair looks way too secure in this video. The man doesn't really know what to do, and is usually embarrassed.He mentions an example that I should withdraw his gaze for a moment (in embarrassment). It is true..he does look quite secure..although loving to see the fems body for the first time , all his moves turn out too smooth and sure of himself. What do you think?

I didn't think of it like that until you pointed it out. I would like to say that I viewed the video as Alistair being with someone he greatly trusted and thus would be a little more confident about not being rejected. If anyone is having mercy sex with Alistair so he doesn't lose his virginity to Morrigan, I would think they're not downloading this mod in the first place. The people who go through the trouble of having the Alistair mod are the ones who want to get the most mileage they can out of the romance. I thought the original was beautiful as it was, but you have such good taste that I'm sure any first time pulling back due to embarrassment would be handled just as beautifully. I just don't want you to doubt your work because a man who doesn't romance Alistair has a different PoV. =p


Gilsa says it perfectly and much better than I can.  I agree.  Even virgins (esp one as curious and adventurous as Alistair) can get it right off the bat.  Its instinct.  And Alistair trusts the PC (even if she's leading him on for the lulz) but then that kind of player wouldn't be downloading this mod anyway.  I say leave it alone, its just perfect as it is.Posted Image

I totally  agree. It is perfect. Do not change too much!! Tho of course it is your mod Posted Image

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Lady Jess wrote...

DahliaLynn wrote...

I have had a male opinion of the video, and he said some pretty valid points. He mentioned that Alistair looks way too secure in this video. The man doesn't really know what to do, and is usually embarrassed.He mentions an example that I should withdraw his gaze for a moment (in embarrassment). It is true..he does look quite secure..although loving to see the fems body for the first time , all his moves turn out too smooth and sure of himself. What do you think?


I think that would be ok, as long as he didn't look like a bumblind idiot. Though I think the fact that he looks so amazed is a must keep thing, but if you want to add some "newb" to that, maybe just add in some more touches, like a guy would do seeing a naked female for the first time. I'm sure thats about as clear as mud, but I'm sure a firt timer would spend some time grinning and exploring. And it would be quite Alistair-like. Cautious, curious, tender but not "DERP!!"...lol


OMG that's hillarious! no no DERP absolutely not.I wouldn't go there. especially not those shots. Adding newb would make the scene more true to it's name. Thanks ;) 

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I can see that point, and actually, personally, I'd love it if he were a
bit (or heck a lot) more shy, because at least for me his lack of
confidence in his own appeal is one of the things I love most about him.
 I love all his hesistance and insecurity when it comes to the female
PC, but he's also quite willing to be bold and swoop her for a kiss even
when she's hesistant.

So I guess I'd go for a mix of the two
things - some hesitation, but also a little something to show that he's
willing to be bold to get what he wants sometimes.


I think of him the same way. His shyness is appealing....yet I also felt that he ws quite bold, which was why I was wondering about the combination. I think I know what to do now...to maintain both. Thanks  :D

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He looks much more (appropriately) unsure of himself in your scene than
in the vanilla scene.  I dunno, I think the virgin thing can be
overdone.  Even virgins who haven't been exposed to reams of porn, like
most teenage boys nowadays I suppose, do figure it out!


Well since this was the mail point of view, I am sure that deep inside they feel extremely awkward as well as the pressure of "performing the right way" so as to not embarrass themselves. they feel that they are supposedly the dominant figures..yet afraid to make the wrong move . Tey figure it out...but we are talking about the first time..so..I really didnt want it to be awkward but still..less confidence would probably be more appropriate. at least in the very beginning.

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I didn't think of it like that until you pointed it out. I would like to
say that I viewed the video as Alistair being with someone he greatly
trusted and thus would be a little more confident about not being
rejected. If anyone is having mercy sex with Alistair so he doesn't lose
his virginity to Morrigan, I would think they're not downloading this
mod in the first place. The people who go through the trouble of having
the Alistair mod are the ones who want to get the most mileage they can
out of the romance. I thought the original was beautiful as it was, but
you have such good taste that I'm sure any first time pulling back due
to embarrassment would be handled just as beautifully. I just don't want
you to doubt your work because a man who doesn't romance Alistair has a
different PoV. =p


Yes that is true, unless the man plays a fem  pc...and would want to connect with alistair being a virgin. (as in his own personal experience in life)
Thank you Gilsa. :kissing:..I am trying to make it tasteful worthy :) 

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Gilsa wrote...

Just out of curiosity, why no warden's keep for you? Are you planning on getting the Leliana DLC?

I didn't like very much the way it was bolted onto the default game, with its "please insert credit card to continue" in the NPC dialogue. Plus i don't really like how the overdone DLC items skew the game (to the point where i turned off the freebies) so that was a deterrent rather than incentive for me.

Leliana DLC is really the first one which piqued my interest enough to get it (aside from Awakening and well, Shale of course but that's part of default bundle)  I'm hoping to get some of her backstory out of that one plus maybe some glimpse of Orlais though that's probably not v.likely Posted Image

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Ha! I finally got a good action SS. Is using Fraps cheating? But I thought I'd share.
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Why is it fun to blow ppl up at camp?


I really need to start using the Lightning line more often.  I usually ignore it because Chain Lightning is so useless, but it makes the best screenshots.

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Finiffa wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

DahliaLynn wrote...

I have had a male opinion of the video, and he said some pretty valid points. He mentioned that Alistair looks way too secure in this video. The man doesn't really know what to do, and is usually embarrassed.He mentions an example that I should withdraw his gaze for a moment (in embarrassment). It is true..he does look quite secure..although loving to see the fems body for the first time , all his moves turn out too smooth and sure of himself. What do you think?

I didn't think of it like that until you pointed it out. I would like to say that I viewed the video as Alistair being with someone he greatly trusted and thus would be a little more confident about not being rejected. If anyone is having mercy sex with Alistair so he doesn't lose his virginity to Morrigan, I would think they're not downloading this mod in the first place. The people who go through the trouble of having the Alistair mod are the ones who want to get the most mileage they can out of the romance. I thought the original was beautiful as it was, but you have such good taste that I'm sure any first time pulling back due to embarrassment would be handled just as beautifully. I just don't want you to doubt your work because a man who doesn't romance Alistair has a different PoV. =p


Gilsa says it perfectly and much better than I can.  I agree.  Even virgins (esp one as curious and adventurous as Alistair) can get it right off the bat.  Its instinct.  And Alistair trusts the PC (even if she's leading him on for the lulz) but then that kind of player wouldn't be downloading this mod anyway.  I say leave it alone, its just perfect as it is.Posted Image

I totally  agree. It is perfect. Do not change too much!! Tho of course it is your mod Posted Image


Yes I bolded gilsas key statement. That is what actually occurs in the current scene....which puts me in the position of -if anything...very very minor changes to satisfy both worlds....a little embarrasment,...along with the confidence attained when finally feeling comfortable with the one he loves and trusts. 

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Addai67 wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Ha! I finally got a good action SS. Is using Fraps cheating? But I thought I'd share.

Why is it fun to blow ppl up at camp?


I really need to start using the Lightning line more often.  I usually ignore it because Chain Lightning is so useless, but it makes the best screenshots.

I don't usually go destructive because it's OP. But there is a mod that increases chain lightening, though I have yet to use it.

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Gilsa wrote...

DahliaLynn wrote...

I have had a male opinion of the video, and he said some pretty valid points. He mentioned that Alistair looks way too secure in this video. The man doesn't really know what to do, and is usually embarrassed.He mentions an example that I should withdraw his gaze for a moment (in embarrassment). It is true..he does look quite secure..although loving to see the fems body for the first time , all his moves turn out too smooth and sure of himself. What do you think?

I didn't think of it like that until you pointed it out. I would like to say that I viewed the video as Alistair being with someone he greatly trusted and thus would be a little more confident about not being rejected. If anyone is having mercy sex with Alistair so he doesn't lose his virginity to Morrigan, I would think they're not downloading this mod in the first place. The people who go through the trouble of having the Alistair mod are the ones who want to get the most mileage they can out of the romance. I thought the original was beautiful as it was, but you have such good taste that I'm sure any first time pulling back due to embarrassment would be handled just as beautifully. I just don't want you to doubt your work because a man who doesn't romance Alistair has a different PoV. =p

I didn't read that as "Alistair should look petrified that the PC is going to change her mind because he's bad at this" but more "Alistair doesn't really come off looking like how I think a virgin would look which means more nervousness because even if the PC is understanding of his virgin status he still would want this to be good for her and doesn't quite know how this is supposed to work."

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oh, and I have NO Idea how to do multiple quotes from different posts...forgive me for that. :)

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DahliaLynn wrote...

oh, and I have NO Idea how to do multiple quotes from different posts...forgive me for that. :)

Really? You did just fine earlier on this page doing just that.

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cmessaz wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Ha! I finally got a good action SS. Is using Fraps cheating? But I thought I'd share.

Why is it fun to blow ppl up at camp?


I really need to start using the Lightning line more often.  I usually ignore it because Chain Lightning is so useless, but it makes the best screenshots.

I don't usually go destructive because it's OP. But there is a mod that increases chain lightening, though I have yet to use it.

I have the mod and I still think it's useless.

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Addai67 wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Ha! I finally got a good action SS. Is using Fraps cheating? But I thought I'd share.

Why is it fun to blow ppl up at camp?


I really need to start using the Lightning line more often.  I usually ignore it because Chain Lightning is so useless, but it makes the best screenshots.

I don't usually go destructive because it's OP. But there is a mod that increases chain lightening, though I have yet to use it.

I have the mod and I still think it's useless.

Heh, I just respeced her as controlling/supportive. I find destructive all around boring. But I must have fireball.

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