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[Serissia]

Gilsa wrote...
lol, yeah. I'll install that armor wand you linked when kid goes down for a nap. Just one question -- is it reversible? If I change my mind about the mod, is it going to make my games look weird like removing IA does?

All it's doing is changing the tier.  If you use it on noble clothing though I think it messes it up (I'm guessing since they have no default tier).  If it's armor though just revert back to the original tier and it will go back to the assoiciated tint.  Like I said earlier though, it doesn't seem to work on Warden's Keep leathers (I didn't test the metals).  

Modifié par Serissia, 19 juin 2010 - 08:26 .

[cmessaz]

sylvanaerie wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

DahliaLynn wrote...

but regarding the gaze..well, I meant a quick embarrased "I shouldnt be looking" kind of thing...chantry style.

I can only offer personal perspective really, but... in situation like that? The guy might be blushing like crazy but he's not going to stop looking if he can help it

if i can borrow a page from aimo's art, it's bit like this:

Exactly Dahlia, you're thinking like a girl.  the only guy (virgin or not)who wouldn't be looking at a naked woman is a blind man.  They WILL look, that avert the eyes thats a girl thing. OMG don't turn Alistair into a GIRL!!!!  I like the scene as is!!!

BTW Aimo is WIN!!!

Sorry Dahlia, but this HAD to be re-posted. TMP is the man.

Modifié par cmessaz, 19 juin 2010 - 08:28 .

[sylvanaerie]

DahliaLynn wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

DahliaLynn wrote...

I really didnt mean extensive tutoring. just a little less security..it is obviously the first time, and of course the moves become natural quickly.,,but regarding the gaze..well, I meant a quick embarrased "I shouldnt be looking" kind of thing...chantry style.

I think that would be fine.  Yes, a little "I can't believe I'm allowed to do this" would be appropriate.  It's obviously on his mind, since it's the first thing he brings up in the post-tent.

wow, you are right! -monestary--!!I suppose once I wil complete the elf version I might make a very minor change. if I see it doesnt work well I will  just leave it as it is..

*headdesk* NOOOOO!!! omg no!!! I don't want to be romanced by a wimp!!!  If I wanted to be romanced by a girl I would trigger Leliana's romance!! 

[tmp7704]

Lady Jess wrote...

If I uninstall a mod, specifically TMP's duncan for girls robe...i shouldn't still see it on my character in game righT?

If you uninstall it fully then i think you will still have the item in your inventory and/or equipped (because that information remains in your save game) but it's likely to render as invisible or something equally weird.

That said, if i remember right there was a version with some extra files which you'd put in the override directory, no? If that's the case then you might have these files still in there even after you uninstall the main mod. That would explain why you can still see it, and also could explain why you didn't see changes when trying to make the reskin with Sten armour textures.

[DahliaLynn]

sylvanaerie wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

DahliaLynn wrote...

but regarding the gaze..well, I meant a quick embarrased "I shouldnt be looking" kind of thing...chantry style.

I can only offer personal perspective really, but... in situation like that? The guy might be blushing like crazy but he's not going to stop looking if he can help it

if i can borrow a page from aimo's art, it's bit like this:

Exactly Dahlia, you're thinking like a girl.  the only guy (virgin or not)who wouldn't be looking at a naked woman is a blind man.  They WILL look, that avert the eyes thats a girl thing. OMG don't turn Alistair into a GIRL!!!!  I like the scene as is!!!

BTW Aimo is WIN!!!

OMG LOL!!...he actually does stare at her...backside as wynn notices. just seemed you are thinking modern day, where there is no embarrasment..but the way he was raised...***afterthought**...fine. I am convinced. (mostly) . I won't change that part. 

[Sarah1281]

sylvanaerie wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

DahliaLynn wrote...

but regarding the gaze..well, I meant a quick embarrased "I shouldnt be looking" kind of thing...chantry style.

I can only offer personal perspective really, but... in situation like that? The guy might be blushing like crazy but he's not going to stop looking if he can help it

if i can borrow a page from aimo's art, it's bit like this:

Exactly Dahlia, you're thinking like a girl.  the only guy (virgin or not)who wouldn't be looking at a naked woman is a blind man.  They WILL look, that avert the eyes thats a girl thing. OMG don't turn Alistair into a GIRL!!!!  I like the scene as is!!!

BTW Aimo is WIN!!!

I'm not sure I follow how Alistair, having been raised to reject sex unless he's sure he's in love and who gets so embarrassed at the lampost conversation he invents a metaphor for it and if you call his bluff with the 'off with your armor' line in another conversation he gets all flustered, being a little embarrassed or unsure at actually seeing a naked woman for the first time makes him a 'girl.'

And Leliana or Morrigan, the actual girl LI, wouldn't react like that as they are both hardly virgins.

[cmessaz]

Yay! :wizard:Your work is wonderful as is. No one would complain about an extension though but elf scene first. My CE is my next playthrough.

Seriously you think if he is bold enough to ask her to his tent, he's gonna look away when she undresses?

Modifié par cmessaz, 19 juin 2010 - 08:32 .

[Lara Denton]

sylvanaerie wrote...

DahliaLynn wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

DahliaLynn wrote...

I really didnt mean extensive tutoring. just a little less security..it is obviously the first time, and of course the moves become natural quickly.,,but regarding the gaze..well, I meant a quick embarrased "I shouldnt be looking" kind of thing...chantry style.

I think that would be fine.  Yes, a little "I can't believe I'm allowed to do this" would be appropriate.  It's obviously on his mind, since it's the first thing he brings up in the post-tent.

wow, you are right! -monestary--!!I suppose once I wil complete the elf version I might make a very minor change. if I see it doesnt work well I will  just leave it as it is..

*headdesk* NOOOOO!!! omg no!!! I don't want to be romanced by a wimp!!!  If I wanted to be romanced by a girl I would trigger Leliana's romance!! 

I don't think it should be changed either. And certainly not to make him look more insecure, there's no point to it really. He's with a woman he loves, there's a lot of trust involved and that leads to confidence. 

[tmp7704]

DahliaLynn wrote...

wow, you are right! -monestary--!!I suppose once I wil complete the elf version I might make a very minor change. if I see it doesnt work well I will  just leave it as it is..

Considering there seems to be split in the tastes, perhaps you could do something crafty here as long as the dialogue file would support it -- i'm thinking of something like keeping the original version as it is, and doing the one with change like you want... and then triggering either one or the other depending on exact lines picked in the conversation leading to it? I mean, maybe the conversation choices could be used to sense whether the player wants Alistair to be more or less bold. It could be tricky to do, though, so that's just a thought.

[Sarah1281]

sylvanaerie wrote...

DahliaLynn wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

DahliaLynn wrote...

I really didnt mean extensive tutoring. just a little less security..it is obviously the first time, and of course the moves become natural quickly.,,but regarding the gaze..well, I meant a quick embarrased "I shouldnt be looking" kind of thing...chantry style.

I think that would be fine.  Yes, a little "I can't believe I'm allowed to do this" would be appropriate.  It's obviously on his mind, since it's the first thing he brings up in the post-tent.

wow, you are right! -monestary--!!I suppose once I wil complete the elf version I might make a very minor change. if I see it doesnt work well I will  just leave it as it is..

*headdesk* NOOOOO!!! omg no!!! I don't want to be romanced by a wimp!!!  If I wanted to be romanced by a girl I would trigger Leliana's romance!! 

Lack of complete confidence and some uncertainty = wimp? I know I'm probably getting your meaning wrong but...that sounds like you're saying Alistair as he is is a wimp as he is full of uncertainty in the game, particularly at the beginning.

[cmessaz]

Sarah- I have to disagree,. Alistair asking her to bed then looking away? BIG turn off.

[sylvanaerie]

Sarah1281 wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

DahliaLynn wrote...

but regarding the gaze..well, I meant a quick embarrased "I shouldnt be looking" kind of thing...chantry style.

I can only offer personal perspective really, but... in situation like that? The guy might be blushing like crazy but he's not going to stop looking if he can help it

if i can borrow a page from aimo's art, it's bit like this:

Exactly Dahlia, you're thinking like a girl.  the only guy (virgin or not)who wouldn't be looking at a naked woman is a blind man.  They WILL look, that avert the eyes thats a girl thing. OMG don't turn Alistair into a GIRL!!!!  I like the scene as is!!!

BTW Aimo is WIN!!!

I'm not sure I follow how Alistair, having been raised to reject sex unless he's sure he's in love and who gets so embarrassed at the lampost conversation he invents a metaphor for it and if you call his bluff with the 'off with your armor' line in another conversation he gets all flustered, being a little embarrassed or unsure at actually seeing a naked woman for the first time makes him a 'girl.'

And Leliana or Morrigan, the actual girl LI, wouldn't react like that as they are both hardly virgins.

Because men are visual. PERIOD.  Wynne even calls out the chantry boy for staring at yoiur ass early on in teh romance.  Hes gonna look.  Virgin or no.  That avert the eyes shyly thing is a GIRL trait NOT a guy one.  Virgin or not men are going to look.  If he loves yoiu he won't care what yoiu look like and he is gonna LOOK!! 
this avert your eyes thing is a bullsh*t idea.  I don't want to be romanced by a wimpy Alistair!!!  I want him to like what my PC looks like, not go all girly/shy/virginal on me.  Thats stupid!

[Sarah1281]

cmessaz wrote...

Sarah- I have to disagree,. Alistair asking her to bed then looking away? BIG turn off.

He's hardly confident when he does, though, and trips all over himself as he's asking her. Part of it, I guess, would be fear of rejection but still, there is a lot of uncertainly on his part in the proposition.

[sabreene]

I really love it how it is. If anything, something could be added, but I wouldn't want anything taken away. It's toooo goood!!!



On Alistair -- He was raised until he was older in the stables, so I'm sure he knows all about sex, having seen all the animals. And once he goes to the Chantry, he doesn't really fit in. I mean, if he did, would he have that whole 'lamppost' conversation? It's that dichotomy we really love in him, that he's innocent, but a little forthright.



He does make the first move for the kiss, and give the flower, and if you wait on sex, he does initiate. It's that romancing of us that is one of his sweetest qualities

[Merilsell]

tmp7704 wrote...

DahliaLynn wrote...

but regarding the gaze..well, I meant a quick embarrased "I shouldnt be looking" kind of thing...chantry style.

I can only offer personal perspective really, but... in situation like that? The guy might be blushing like crazy but he's not going to stop looking if he can help it

if i can borrow a page from aimo's art, it's bit like this:

Yeah, it's all like "Teheheee BEWBIES, teheehee You can be sure that a guy would look, so the picture fits quite well.

[shedevil3001]

i think the first night scene is perfect as is and like cmessaz stated if alistair is confident enough to ask the warden to the tent why would he look away just because she's naked it doesnt make any sense

[sabreene]

Sarah1281 wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Sarah- I have to disagree,. Alistair asking her to bed then looking away? BIG turn off.

He's hardly confident when he does, though, and trips all over himself as he's asking her. Part of it, I guess, would be fear of rejection but still, there is a lot of uncertainly on his part in the proposition.

And I don't think he would ever really look away. He might look at something else to get his focus back, like her chin or her clavicle, so he didn't just.. well, explode Or he could glance to her face to make sure it's okay Which is pretty much what he does now, and why I love it!

[cmessaz]

Sarah1281 wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Sarah- I have to disagree,. Alistair asking her to bed then looking away? BIG turn off.

He's hardly confident when he does, though, and trips all over himself as he's asking her. Part of it, I guess, would be fear of rejection but still, there is a lot of uncertainly on his part in the proposition.

As if a woman isn't insecure enough, she gets asked to bed and then the guy looks away? Umm, I will be putting my clothes back on and leaving now obviously he isn't ready for this.

[DahliaLynn]

tmp7704 wrote...

DahliaLynn wrote...

wow, you are right! -monestary--!!I suppose once I wil complete the elf version I might make a very minor change. if I see it doesnt work well I will  just leave it as it is..

Considering there seems to be split in the tastes, perhaps you could do something crafty here as long as the dialogue file would support it -- i'm thinking of something like keeping the original version as it is, and doing the one with change like you want... and then triggering either one or the other depending on exact lines picked in the conversation leading to it? I mean, maybe the conversation choices could be used to sense whether the player wants Alistair to be more or less bold. It could be tricky to do, though, so that's just a thought.

OOO..that thought actually did cross my mind.
"follow my lead" would be the current version? and "I'm willing to try" would be a more embarrased version?

[Serissia]

I have all the files to switch ChiZ armor over to yours TMP but I didn't want to post it w/o first asking you and ChiZ and I haven't gotten around to doing either. I've been fairly busy.

[shedevil3001]

alistair may be innocent but he's still a man and if a woman is naked infront of him he wouldnt look away maybe go bright red but not turn away i wont be d/l the mod if its changed i love it exactly as it is it makes it more believable and perfect to rp

[Lara Denton]

tmp7704 wrote...

DahliaLynn wrote...

wow, you are right! -monestary--!!I suppose once I wil complete the elf version I might make a very minor change. if I see it doesnt work well I will  just leave it as it is..

Considering there seems to be split in the tastes, perhaps you could do something crafty here as long as the dialogue file would support it -- i'm thinking of something like keeping the original version as it is, and doing the one with change like you want... and then triggering either one or the other depending on exact lines picked in the conversation leading to it? I mean, maybe the conversation choices could be used to sense whether the player wants Alistair to be more or less bold. It could be tricky to do, though, so that's just a thought.

The best of both worlds? He, he, there is always going to be the third option, then the forth, and so on, and it will never be a balance... 

[tmp7704]

Serissia wrote...

I have all the files to switch ChiZ armor over to yours TMP but I didn't want to post it w/o first asking you and ChiZ and I haven't gotten around to doing either. I've been fairly busy.

Ahh that's fine with me, though i suspect ChiZ may have an issue with that since (s)he made that armour to be specific for Sten... still, don't want to second-guess them, maybe they'll agree too.

[sylvanaerie]

shedevil3001 wrote...

alistair may be innocent but he's still a man and if a woman is naked infront of him he wouldnt look away maybe go bright red but not turn away i wont be d/l the mod if its changed i love it exactly as it is it makes it more believable and perfect to rp

THIS YES!!  I like it as is, I dont' want some wimpified girly Alistair to romance, I want the one who asks my PC to the tent and the aftertalk and all the little parts with it.  I don't want some shy girly-man!

[Lady Jess]

tmp7704 wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

If I uninstall a mod, specifically TMP's duncan for girls robe...i shouldn't still see it on my character in game righT?

If you uninstall it fully then i think you will still have the item in your inventory and/or equipped (because that information remains in your save game) but it's likely to render as invisible or something equally weird.

That said, if i remember right there was a version with some extra files which you'd put in the override directory, no? If that's the case then you might have these files still in there even after you uninstall the main mod. That would explain why you can still see it, and also could explain why you didn't see changes when trying to make the reskin with Sten armour textures.

The only thing I remember putting in overrride was the console script ncs file. I'm at the point now I can SEE the texture trying to peek through but just barely enough to see it. I actually had to go to Denerim to see it...lol.