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@Mel -- here's a virtual hug for ya and a cup of coffee for your late shift tonight! :D

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cmessaz wrote...

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Don't all faint at once, but I am going to buy the DLC.  I'm hoping a backstory will make the *beep* more palatable.

My husband will no doubt want to buy it.  I'm not sure I can stomach playing it, though.  Maybe with the volume turned down.

K it's not the character (although I hate leliana, sorry but it's true) that bothers me. I want to play with my pc. Thats my only issue,.


Yeah, that's no fun too.  But I paid my $5 for DSC, and enjoyed it for those 30 minutes.  If this one is another $5, for another 30 minutes, its 30 minutes of new entertainment.  I lose more than $5 in my ocuch on a weekly basis....lol

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cmessaz wrote...

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cmessaz wrote...

*sighs* could I get a profile bump from you guys? I hate this profile bug. The mage in my avatar is not my current one and hasn't been for a week, I deleted her.

She was cute.

My real one looks identicle and has the same name. I had forgotten to uncheck my modded robes so she could have them. :blush: And everyone who knows me knows that I have this obsession with robes and staves.:D

The mage is dead! Long live the mage! :wizard:
It happens to me too and way too often... I wish all the custom added items had the option to be added via the console. In fact, it should be mandatory. <_<

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laradenton wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

laradenton wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

*sighs* could I get a profile bump from you guys? I hate this profile bug. The mage in my avatar is not my current one and hasn't been for a week, I deleted her.

She was cute.

My real one looks identicle and has the same name. I had forgotten to uncheck my modded robes so she could have them. :blush: And everyone who knows me knows that I have this obsession with robes and staves.:D

The mage is dead! Long live the mage! :wizard:
It happens to me too and way too often... I wish all the custom added items had the option to be added via the console. In fact, it should be mandatory. <_<

yeah i agree! seri's are. You have no idea how many times I headdesk over this. Esp after I spent 2 hours OCRing in CC.

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*sighs* could I get a profile bump from you guys? I hate this profile bug. The mage in my avatar is not my current one and hasn't been for a week, I deleted her.

Just FYI because I forget to mention it, but every time you ask for a profile bump, I click on the link for you. Sometimes I just forget to say as much so remember you're getting more clicks than you think. ;)

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cmessaz wrote...

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I am looking into that. Alistair has some dialogue if he refuses the DR that would be removed otherwise it would be ackward.  But I do believe that there needs to be a sex scene if the DR was refused. I will see if it's doable on my end, but poor Dahlia has so much on her plate already.

One of these days I have to try to get him to refuse just to see what he says.  I've never had him refuse so I think I'd be Posted Image if it happened in-game, but I'm curious.

It's the yawn I hate.  It makes me want to slap him.

Ha me too. Like, WTF?


He refused my Dalish girl on her first run-through when the game bugged her romance flag to friend instead of "still in love".  He says something like "I can't believe you asked me to do this" and stalks off, and you're forced to go to Morrigan and say he wouldn't do it and it's kind of :crying:.

I think she told him everything, about the god-child, and I know she didn't use the persuade option.

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Gilsa wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

*sighs* could I get a profile bump from you guys? I hate this profile bug. The mage in my avatar is not my current one and hasn't been for a week, I deleted her.

Just FYI because I forget to mention it, but every time you ask for a profile bump, I click on the link for you. Sometimes I just forget to say as much so remember you're getting more clicks than you think. ;)

Thanks! I need to see if I can just delete the profile and create a new one, but I'm afraid I will lose my DLC.

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Mel_Redux wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Mel_Redux wrote...

Don't all faint at once, but I am going to buy the DLC.  I'm hoping a backstory will make the *beep* more palatable.

My husband will no doubt want to buy it.  I'm not sure I can stomach playing it, though.  Maybe with the volume turned down.

K it's not the character (although I hate leliana, sorry but it's true) that bothers me. I want to play with my pc. Thats my only issue,.


Yeah, that's no fun too.  But I paid my $5 for DSC, and enjoyed it for those 30 minutes.  If this one is another $5, for another 30 minutes, its 30 minutes of new entertainment.  I lose more than $5 in my ocuch on a weekly basis....lol

Yes I enjoyed DC too. But...I am hoping this will not continue. I am disappointed that I don't get to play with my character yet again. Not to mention it's my least favorite NPC.

Modifié par cmessaz, 21 juin 2010 - 06:43 .


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cmessaz wrote...

You guys really think sex should be involved after the ritual? Just curious because I don't know if I could...


My Idea of what happens after the DR:
For whatever reason, it is done in the PC's room (ugh, WTF), so the PC stays in Al's room while the debauchery is going on.  She crawls into his bed and burries herself under the covers in a featal position, feeling nausious.  Al returns, quietly going into the bathroom to scrub himself clean, PC pretends to be asleep.  Al quietly crawls into bed, trying not to wake her, but he lightly snuggles up behind her.  The PC sniffles, Al looks and sees a tear going down her cheek.  He kisses it, and holds her tightly the whole night - they don't say a word to eachother.

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He refused my Dalish girl on her first run-through when the game bugged her romance flag to friend instead of "still in love".  He says something like "I can't believe you asked me to do this" and stalks off, and you're forced to go to Morrigan and say he wouldn't do it and it's kind of :crying:.

I think she told him everything, about the god-child, and I know she didn't use the persuade option.

Aww.  Posted Image  That would hurt, since my PCs usually can't believe they're asking him to do it, either.  It's kind of uncalled for, though.  After all, you're trying to save his life as well as your own.

I usually tell him everything and don't use Persuade, but it must be that first "you know I love you" line that always does it.

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And yes, I want to play MY character in the DLC, Damn-it!

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Aww.  Posted Image  That would hurt, since my PCs usually can't believe they're asking him to do it, either.  It's kind of uncalled for, though.  After all, you're trying to save his life as well as your own.

I usually tell him everything and don't use Persuade, but it must be that first "you know I love you" line that always does it.


I'm pretty sure it is the "you know I love you", which I cannot bring my PC to say.

And when he refuses, he makes you feel a bit like an ass. He's huffy and implies (to me) that you're using him to save your own ass.

I pretend this face is him realizing he should have done the damn ritual because his ass is getting left behind:
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Modifié par SurelyForth, 21 juin 2010 - 06:50 .


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Addai67 wrote...

Sandtigress wrote...

He refused my Dalish girl on her first run-through when the game bugged her romance flag to friend instead of "still in love".  He says something like "I can't believe you asked me to do this" and stalks off, and you're forced to go to Morrigan and say he wouldn't do it and it's kind of :crying:.

I think she told him everything, about the god-child, and I know she didn't use the persuade option.

Aww.  Posted Image  That would hurt, since my PCs usually can't believe they're asking him to do it, either.  It's kind of uncalled for, though.  After all, you're trying to save his life as well as your own.

I usually tell him everything and don't use Persuade, but it must be that first "you know I love you" line that always does it.


I believe it does too - even at "still in love" if you don't use the "You know I love you line" and use "We're friends, right?" or even worse "I know we're not exactly friends" he can still reject you if don't use the persuade option.

I don't know if it works the same way if he's flagged at love though.  I forget all the options that I tried with my HNF.

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SurelyForth wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Aww.  Posted Image  That would hurt, since my PCs usually can't believe they're asking him to do it, either.  It's kind of uncalled for, though.  After all, you're trying to save his life as well as your own.

I usually tell him everything and don't use Persuade, but it must be that first "you know I love you" line that always does it.


I'm pretty sure it is the "you know I love you", which I cannot bring my PC to say.

And when he refuses, he makes you feel a bit like an ass. He's huffy and implies (to me) that you're using him to save your own ass.

I pretend this face is him realizing he should have done the damn ritual because his ass is getting left behind:
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You don't like that line?  Why?  I could never pick the "If you love me you'll do this" option (that feels horrifically low for most of my PCs), but my Dalish opens with that line because of the whole break-up thing and what not - she's trying to convey that she's asking something horrific of him, but it's not because she's stopped loving him, despite everything that's happened.

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rak72 wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

You guys really think sex should be involved after the ritual? Just curious because I don't know if I could...


My Idea of what happens after the DR:
For whatever reason, it is done in the PC's room (ugh, WTF), so the PC stays in Al's room while the debauchery is going on.  She crawls into his bed and burries herself under the covers in a featal position, feeling nausious.  Al returns, quietly going into the bathroom to scrub himself clean, PC pretends to be asleep.  Al quietly crawls into bed, trying not to wake her, but he lightly snuggles up behind her.  The PC sniffles, Al looks and sees a tear going down her cheek.  He kisses it, and holds her tightly the whole night - they don't say a word to eachother.


I just assumed they were in Morrigan's room, since Morrigan says they're leaving.  *shrugs*

And I know everyone is different, but my PC has no right to be upset.  She's worried about him, but when he gets back, she's comforting him, not the other way around.

But, hey, different strokes.

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SurelyForth wrote...

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Aww.  Posted Image  That would hurt, since my PCs usually can't believe they're asking him to do it, either.  It's kind of uncalled for, though.  After all, you're trying to save his life as well as your own.

I usually tell him everything and don't use Persuade, but it must be that first "you know I love you" line that always does it.


I'm pretty sure it is the "you know I love you", which I cannot bring my PC to say.

And when he refuses, he makes you feel a bit like an ass. He's huffy and implies (to me) that you're using him to save your own ass.

... which is not in itself such a terrible crime, the doofus.  Have sex with Morrigan to save someone's life?  Hello priorities!

But why do you not like the "you know I love you" line?  I see it as simple reassurance.  If I'm about to ask my man to sleep with another woman, I want him to know I don't take it lightly.

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I just assumed they were in Morrigan's room, since Morrigan says they're leaving.  *shrugs*

It technically happens in PC's room because they didn't model anything that wouldn't be necessary... so other characters don't even have their rooms Posted Image

But yes, going by dialogue it should be happening in the room given to Morrigan.

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And I know everyone is different, but my PC has no right to be upset.  She's worried about him, but when he gets back, she's comforting him, not the other way around.

But, hey, different strokes.


I see my PC as upset.  She knows that she had to ask him to do it so they both can live, doesn't mean she has to like it.  I also picture her being a hot mess the whole time Morristair sexy time is going on.

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LadyDamodred wrote...

rak72 wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

You guys really think sex should be involved after the ritual? Just curious because I don't know if I could...


My Idea of what happens after the DR:
For whatever reason, it is done in the PC's room (ugh, WTF), so the PC stays in Al's room while the debauchery is going on.  She crawls into his bed and burries herself under the covers in a featal position, feeling nausious.  Al returns, quietly going into the bathroom to scrub himself clean, PC pretends to be asleep.  Al quietly crawls into bed, trying not to wake her, but he lightly snuggles up behind her.  The PC sniffles, Al looks and sees a tear going down her cheek.  He kisses it, and holds her tightly the whole night - they don't say a word to eachother.


I just assumed they were in Morrigan's room, since Morrigan says they're leaving.  *shrugs*

And I know everyone is different, but my PC has no right to be upset.  She's worried about him, but when he gets back, she's comforting him, not the other way around.

But, hey, different strokes.


I'm pretty sure its the PCs room,  I think the three of them were dicussing in Al's room, then left for the PC's room. I'll look closer when it comes up again.    Its not realy that he's comforting PC, but more like they are comforting E/O.  It was a gross disgusting thing, but it t had to be done, and they are trying to come to terms with it together.

It would be cool if we could get the Post-Corination sexy time - it would be nice to do it in a bed, just once.

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I'm pretty sure its the PCs room,  I think the three of them were dicussing in Al's room, then left for the PC's room. I'll look closer when it comes up again.    Its not realy that he's comforting PC, but more like they are comforting E/O.  It was a gross disgusting thing, but it t had to be done, and they are trying to come to terms with it together.

It would be cool if we could get the Post-Corination sexy time - it would be nice to do it in a bed, just once.

The room with the big fireplace where Morrigan is parked until you tell her what you've decided must be the PC's room.  When you encounter Morrigan there, you can get shirty with her about the fact that she snuck into your room (edit: Alistair also says "I saw Morrigan outside your room earlier").  That's also where you go back with Alistair to tell her he's agreed, then she says "let us go somewhere more private."  I guess the "somewhere" could be back to Alistair's room or wherever Morrigan is staying.

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rak72 wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

rak72 wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

You guys really think sex should be involved after the ritual? Just curious because I don't know if I could...


My Idea of what happens after the DR:
For whatever reason, it is done in the PC's room (ugh, WTF), so the PC stays in Al's room while the debauchery is going on.  She crawls into his bed and burries herself under the covers in a featal position, feeling nausious.  Al returns, quietly going into the bathroom to scrub himself clean, PC pretends to be asleep.  Al quietly crawls into bed, trying not to wake her, but he lightly snuggles up behind her.  The PC sniffles, Al looks and sees a tear going down her cheek.  He kisses it, and holds her tightly the whole night - they don't say a word to eachother.


I just assumed they were in Morrigan's room, since Morrigan says they're leaving.  *shrugs*

And I know everyone is different, but my PC has no right to be upset.  She's worried about him, but when he gets back, she's comforting him, not the other way around.

But, hey, different strokes.


I'm pretty sure its the PCs room,  I think the three of them were dicussing in Al's room, then left for the PC's room. I'll look closer when it comes up again.    Its not realy that he's comforting PC, but more like they are comforting E/O.  It was a gross disgusting thing, but it t had to be done, and they are trying to come to terms with it together.

It would be cool if we could get the Post-Corination sexy time - it would be nice to do it in a bed, just once.


You encounter Morrigan in YOUR room ("don't you have your own room Morrigan?")

Then you go to Alistair, and return, and THEY leave. So they either go to his room or hers.

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OK ppl. The scene technically takes place in your room (cutscene editor). But I rp it differently. The dialogue suggests they leave.

Modifié par cmessaz, 21 juin 2010 - 07:13 .


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But why do you not like the "you know I love you" line?  I see it as simple reassurance.  If I'm about to ask my man to sleep with another woman, I want him to know I don't take it lightly.


It still feels manipulative to me. I think I've mentioned before how the DR doesn't bother me, but implicating him does. I feel like it's a decision he should make on his own. Therefore, he should be as informed as the PC and it should be as rational a decision as possible.

But this is just my opinion. I get a bit wriggly at the slightest hint of emotional manipulation and understand why 99% of people would have no problem with it. And it backfires, because I have to use a persuade in the end, but it's one that doesn't play on our feelings for one another so that makes it, inexplicably, more palateable to me.

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