LadyDamodred wrote...
sabreene wrote...
LadyDamodred wrote...
sabreene wrote...
I do see Alistair as being more rational than irrational. There are very few moments where he lets himself give into what he wants over what he feels he should do. One of those is keeping his birth a secret, the other is the Landsmeet. There may be a few others, but those are the primary two events where I see him acting more on what he desires than what he knows rationally would be in good interest in the larger picture.
Is keeping his birth a secret irrational, though? It's not as if he doesn't have cause for wanting to keep it hidden. Not the best judgement, maybe, but hardly irrational.
Same thing with the Landsmeet. It's an extreme, visceral reaction, but is it really irrational?
It depends on what definition you're using for rational. If rational is being sensible and reasonable, then he would be open to discuss the reasons why it might or might not be a good choice to bring Loghain into the Wardens. I think he's perfectly justified in the behavior he displays at the Landsmeet, and that it's actually a very good thing for him to do (even though it was incredibly bad timing!). All his life he's let other people's wants rule what becomes of him, and this is the first real time he steps up and says "NO, I want THIS." So I completely agree with his action, I just don't see it as rational. I definitely don't see it as being immature, either.
Regarding the secret of his birth -- If he really had thought it through, he would know that Loghain knows the secret of his birth, and if Loghain knows he is one of the two wardens that were left alive, this is very important information to share. Of course, again I feel he's perfectly justified in keeping the information to himself! 
Fair enough. I don't think things are necessarily either/or when it comes to being irrational/rational. There are shades of both. I think in both cases, he had reasons for doing what he did, and the reasons were sound (to varying extents) and that keeps the actions from being truly irrational. Though the Landsmeet is very close to that line.
As for hiding his birth, whether Loghain knows or not seems to have factor in his decision not to tell you. It doesn't even occur to him. It's not until you, the PC, bring it up that he realizes the consequences might be more far-reaching than he thought. He hides it because he doesn't want you to change how you treat him. All his experience has taught him A will happen if he does B. He doesn't want that, so he doesn't do B. It's not the best use of judgement, but it's not irrational.
I agree, things are not black and white. I think you can be a fairly rational person and have moments of irrationality. It's what makes us human. And there are "buttons" everyone has that can turn a logical, mature person into a screaming, tantrum-throwing child. Okay, a little exaggeration there, but just never EVER joke with my mother about women shaving their head, mmkay?
Regarding the Landsmeet, I think sound reasons can be found when thinking back on it, but during the moment it was a completely emotional, gut decision which to me points to a lack of reasoning when the decision was made.
On hiding his birth -- I can see how that wouldn't be irrational. I'm sure he gave that a lot of thought and debated with himself quite often as to when and if he should tell. And I agree that his one big reason was that he doesn't want how the PC treats him to change. From past experience he is sure of what will happen. I actually never have a problem with him for this, because I empathize with him. But I can understand those people that are annoyed by it. Instead of looking globally he doesn't step outside the realm of how it will affect him - more, the global aspect of it never even occurs to him.
He doesn't really even consider the local ramifications, say, if you're in a romance with him how it might have been important to know. *ponders* I know this stems from his thinking he will never be king, and that it will never come up. Which isn't really acting irrationaly, it's more like seeing the world with blinders on. It really doesn't occur to him that he's next in line for the throne. I like to think that is just a factor from his upbringing, and that as he grows and sees the concequences of peoples actions in the world at large, he learns to see the world with a larger scope.
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