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[sabreene]

klarabella wrote...

Xandurpein wrote...
Since I there seem to be quite a few fanfic authors here, And I am a bit of an expert on ancient and medieval warfare and combat, I have a question for you. Would anyone be interested if I put together some words on hos to visualize real sword fighting and weapon use as a source of inspiration for those of you who want to write action, but don't feel confident about doing it?

Oh please! Yes!

Maybe you have an idea how classes and specializationscould be translated into a fighting style. Is fighting with two swords even possible? What would be the difference the difference between a rogue and a dw warrior?
And do you know anything about armor? I've been doing some research and found out that obviously chainmail is heavier than plate armor. Also I don't know what kind of armor people would wear while traveling if they wore any. Leathers,  I suppose? Would someone carry a shield around all the time?

I have a hard time getting this right because my DA world is supposed to be closer to the real middle ages. Well, that's what I want it to be anyway. (e.g. no running around in plate or chainmail without any reason, no mages available for healing, no miracle literacy)

Oooh, I would love to know about this too! I've been doing some research on my own, looking into armor and weapons. But it would be wonderful to get some info directly from someone who knows, instead of random web pages! My basic knowledge comes from reading historical fiction, or medieval fantasy -- and I never know how much research they actually did when writing.

[Xandurpein]

sabreene wrote...

klarabella wrote...

Xandurpein wrote...
Since I there seem to be quite a few fanfic authors here, And I am a bit of an expert on ancient and medieval warfare and combat, I have a question for you. Would anyone be interested if I put together some words on hos to visualize real sword fighting and weapon use as a source of inspiration for those of you who want to write action, but don't feel confident about doing it?

Oh please! Yes!

Maybe you have an idea how classes and specializationscould be translated into a fighting style. Is fighting with two swords even possible? What would be the difference the difference between a rogue and a dw warrior?
And do you know anything about armor? I've been doing some research and found out that obviously chainmail is heavier than plate armor. Also I don't know what kind of armor people would wear while traveling if they wore any. Leathers,  I suppose? Would someone carry a shield around all the time?

I have a hard time getting this right because my DA world is supposed to be closer to the real middle ages. Well, that's what I want it to be anyway. (e.g. no running around in plate or chainmail without any reason, no mages available for healing, no miracle literacy)

Oooh, I would love to know about this too! I've been doing some research on my own, looking into armor and weapons. But it would be wonderful to get some info directly from someone who knows, instead of random web pages! My basic knowledge comes from reading historical fiction, or medieval fantasy -- and I never know how much research they actually did when writing.

Since some of you seem interested I'll go ahead and write something. I'll try and compile some useful descriptions and ideas on how real medieval combat looks like. I can also dig up some links to youtube clips that illustrates what I'll try to explain too and I'll include them in the post.

I'll probably post everything on the fan creation forum, but I'll come back and post the link to it on this thread, when I'm done. I may not finish it all today, but hopefully this weekend.

Modifié par Xandurpein, 24 juin 2010 - 09:22 .

[nos_astra]

Can I squee now? Because that would be exactly what I've been looking for.
Now I can go ahead and try making up a believable background about Orlais, Nevarra and Tevinter. I hope I'll get the research part done one day.

Modifié par klarabella, 24 juin 2010 - 09:26 .

[sylvanaerie]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Morribrand is not bad.
....it's awful.
(Don't mind KoP's irrational hatred towards anything modding Morrigan).

ROFL I warned ya!  You HAD to look didn't ya...Sorry KoP

Modifié par sylvanaerie, 24 juin 2010 - 11:29 .

[sylvanaerie]

Xandurpein wrote...

sabreene wrote...

klarabella wrote...

Xandurpein wrote...
Since I there seem to be quite a few fanfic authors here, And I am a bit of an expert on ancient and medieval warfare and combat, I have a question for you. Would anyone be interested if I put together some words on hos to visualize real sword fighting and weapon use as a source of inspiration for those of you who want to write action, but don't feel confident about doing it?

Oh please! Yes!

Maybe you have an idea how classes and specializationscould be translated into a fighting style. Is fighting with two swords even possible? What would be the difference the difference between a rogue and a dw warrior?
And do you know anything about armor? I've been doing some research and found out that obviously chainmail is heavier than plate armor. Also I don't know what kind of armor people would wear while traveling if they wore any. Leathers,  I suppose? Would someone carry a shield around all the time?

I have a hard time getting this right because my DA world is supposed to be closer to the real middle ages. Well, that's what I want it to be anyway. (e.g. no running around in plate or chainmail without any reason, no mages available for healing, no miracle literacy)

Oooh, I would love to know about this too! I've been doing some research on my own, looking into armor and weapons. But it would be wonderful to get some info directly from someone who knows, instead of random web pages! My basic knowledge comes from reading historical fiction, or medieval fantasy -- and I never know how much research they actually did when writing.

Since some of you seem interested I'll go ahead and write something. I'll try and compile some useful descriptions and ideas on how real medieval combat looks like. I can also dig up some links to youtube clips that illustrates what I'll try to explain too and I'll include them in the post.

I'll probably post everything on the fan creation forum, but I'll come back and post the link to it on this thread, when I'm done. I may not finish it all today, but hopefully this weekend.

Xan, you are awesome!

[nos_astra]

Xandurpein wrote...
As I wrote above. The feeling I got from my play is that Alistair acts like a very young person. If he is in love with the PC, then really this is probably his first big love. So he and the PC go through this big adventure, fall head over heels in love and than have a fairy tale wedding as heroes. How can normal life possibly top that? 

How many times does your first big love end up being the one you are mature enough to handle well? How many times does falling in love and getting married young end up in a divorce and a more mature second relationship when you get a little older?

If I was to ever write a FCousland/Alistair fic it would probably be about the inherent problems in such a fairy tale romance. Two young persons fall in love, but then they wake up to discover that being King and Queen is loads of work and duty and very little romance. Can they overcome that and learn to appreciate reality together, or will it fall apart when it's no longer just an adventure and a rosy fantasy?

I can only agree. To be honest, I'm cooking up stories for both of my human nobles. The one that is on the back burner is about King Alistair and Queen Cousland and the difficulties of their relationship. So many difficulties that they actually had to consider if it is possible to get divorced (it is not in Ferelden, a marriage would have to be annulled and I don't think they'd go that far).

No happy endings for my characters.

Modifié par klarabella, 24 juin 2010 - 12:04 .

[Xandurpein]

klarabella wrote...

I can only agree. To be honest, I'm cooking up stories for both of my human nobles. The one that is on the back burner is about King Alistair and Queen Cousland and the difficulties of their relationship. So many difficulties that I actually had to consider if it is possible to get divorced (not in Ferelden, a marriage would have to be annulled and I didn't think they'd go that far).

No happy endings for my characters.

But that is the beauty of fanfic. You can always get your happy ending if you write it yourself. If I can even get to have a happy ending with Anora in my fic, I'm sure you can get happy ending with Ali in your, if you put your mind to it.

[nos_astra]

Xandurpein wrote...
But that is the beauty of fanfic. You can always get your happy ending if you write it yourself. If I can even get to have a happy ending with Anora in my fic, I'm sure you can get happy ending with Ali in your, if you put your mind to it.

They'll have to find a way. They are King and Queen, they can't just quit because things are not roses and rainbows.
Maybe there's still hope.

Modifié par klarabella, 24 juin 2010 - 12:06 .

[Xandurpein]

klarabella wrote...

Xandurpein wrote...
But that is the beauty of fanfic. You can always get your happy ending if you write it yourself. If I can even get to have a happy ending with Anora in my fic, I'm sure you can get happy ending with Ali in your, if you put your mind to it.

They'll have to find a way. They are King and Queen, they can't just quit because things are not roses and rainbows.
Maybe there's still hope.

To me the happy end that comes with a prize and some compromises is more believable than the rainbow and puppies end. That makes it much more involoving to me. That is why I like it so much that there is no truly happy end in DA that doesn't come without a cost.

[MelRedux]

Good morning! Good morning everyone! In the forums this morning, good morning!

Modifié par Mel_Redux, 24 juin 2010 - 01:23 .

[SurelyForth]

Mel_Redux wrote...

Good morning! Good morning everyone! In the forums this morning, good morning!

Does the fact that I knew exactly where that was from (and am still giggle swooning over Joel McHale) mean we really are the same person in weird parallel universes?

[MelRedux]

SurelyForth wrote...

Mel_Redux wrote...

Good morning! Good morning everyone! In the forums this morning, good morning!

Does the fact that I knew exactly where that was from (and am still giggle swooning over Joel McHale) mean we really are the same person in weird parallel universes?

LOL....i edited it with the link becuase I wasn't sure if people would get the reference!  I you Surely.

[Sandtigress]

Mel_Redux wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

Mel_Redux wrote...

Good morning! Good morning everyone! In the forums this morning, good morning!

Does the fact that I knew exactly where that was from (and am still giggle swooning over Joel McHale) mean we really are the same person in weird parallel universes?

LOL....i edited it with the link becuase I wasn't sure if people would get the reference!  I you Surely.

You guys aren't going to make me write about it....right? 

[SurelyForth]

Sandtigress wrote...

Mel_Redux wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

Does the fact that I knew exactly where that was from (and am still giggle swooning over Joel McHale) mean we really are the same person in weird parallel universes?

LOL....i edited it with the link becuase I wasn't sure if people would get the reference!  I you Surely.

You guys aren't going to make me write about it....right? 

Seeing how we're both women, you can't really get the Child of Destiny thing out of it. So...no. You don't have to write about it.

[Sandtigress]

SurelyForth wrote...

Sandtigress wrote...

Mel_Redux wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

Does the fact that I knew exactly where that was from (and am still giggle swooning over Joel McHale) mean we really are the same person in weird parallel universes?

LOL....i edited it with the link becuase I wasn't sure if people would get the reference!  I you Surely.

You guys aren't going to make me write about it....right? 

Seeing how we're both women, you can't really get the Child of Destiny thing out of it. So...no. You don't have to write about it.

Hooray!  Now watch my weird little brain come up with something anyways....  

[Addai]

Xandurpein wrote...

Since I there seem to be quite a few fanfic authors here, And I am a bit of an expert on ancient and medieval warfare and combat, I have a question for you. Would anyone be interested if I put together some words on hos to visualize real sword fighting and weapon use as a source of inspiration for those of you who want to write action, but don't feel confident about doing it?

This would be awesome.    I would love it even if I don't write another word.

[LadyDamodred]

klarabella wrote...
I've been doing some research and found out that chainmail is heavier than plate armor. Also I don't know what kind of armor people would wear while traveling if they wore any. Leathers,  I suppose? Would someone carry a shield around all the time?

This came up for me a few weeks ago when I was looking at armor and realized how light plate really is.  It was shocking.  Throw in the fantasy aspect of it, with dragonbone supposedly being incredibly light and with silverite being a mithral equivalent, and you're looking at ridiculously low weights for armor.  It actually makes the what they're able to do while wearing plate armor look much more realistic.  (It also made me feel somewhat better for totally geeking out a few years ago and figuring out exact armor weights for mithral and adamantine in D&D.)

Also, keep in mind, chain was lighter than well-made plate armor.  It was also cheaper, so it makes sense that it was more common than plate.  As for carrying a shield all the time?  Probably not, but for our heroes, I would imagine while they travel they bring what they need to fight effectively.  The game also leaves out that you can, in fact, fight with one sword and it's not a detriment or less effective.

That being said, I would also like to see Xan's expertise on the subject.

[KnightofPhoenix]

It's 1941. One would expect a lot of fighting in the thread right now (bad WW2 joke born out of boredom).

[MelRedux]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

It's 1941. One would expect a lot of fighting in the thread right now (bad WW2 joke born out of boredom).

Um.....  Morrigan's ugly!!  And you smell bad!!

[KnightofPhoenix]

But I don't want to be a belligerent....yet.

Seriously, the thread needs to get back the umph it once had.

[Addai]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

But I don't want to be a belligerent....yet.
Seriously, the thread needs to get back the umph it once had.

I don't think many of us are playing much atm.  The bleh DLC news took the wind out of my sails.  I'll probably finish my current games then not sure if I'll start another.

[MelRedux]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

But I don't want to be a belligerent....yet.
Seriously, the thread needs to get back the umph it once had.

I blame you going home.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Mel_Redux wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

But I don't want to be a belligerent....yet.
Seriously, the thread needs to get back the umph it once had.

I blame you going home.

I know right?
No worries, 2 months from now and I'll be back full time.

[Lady Jess]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

It's 1941. One would expect a lot of fighting in the thread right now (bad WW2 joke born out of boredom).

THe west coast is just waking up. Besides, I posted Morrigan last night...still trying to recover from the shock that my first photo manipulation was her not Alistair.

[Sandtigress]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

But I don't want to be a belligerent....yet.
Seriously, the thread needs to get back the umph it once had.

The thesis is so close to being done, and then I can get back to my Ron and Kara story and show the whole thing to the gush thread and start another discussion over whether I should feel guilty for loving Ron more than as much as Alistair. 


Why am I not surprised that that's a ToP?  Go ahead, post a Ron picture, let me flaunt my Ron love to the whole world!  Or at least, the whole gush thread.

Modifié par Sandtigress, 24 juin 2010 - 03:58 .