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[janeym27]

Mel_Redux wrote...

I bought it, and thoroughly enjoyed killing you know who

Agreed. (actually, 2 you-know-whos for me)

[Axekix]

sylvanaerie wrote...

I didn't waste money on it. It was one giant homage to PC McAwesomesauce and that fact that unless he/she was there to fart sunshine out of their ass, the world went to hell in a handbasket.

I think it probably would have ended better with anyone but Alistair at the helm.  I mean the more I think about it, it's not really that hard to believe.  He relies on the PC for pretty much all of his development in DAO.  Without that, well...

[cmessaz]

janeym27 wrote...

Mel_Redux wrote...

I bought it, and thoroughly enjoyed killing you know who

Agreed. (actually, 2 you-know-whos for me)

Thanks Sarah

Modifié par cmessaz, 24 juin 2010 - 11:28 .

[LadyDamodred]

Axekix wrote...

janeym27 wrote...

OK - so Darkspawn Chronicles.
Spoilar text below.
How unfair is that 'alternate history' thing to Alistair? I think he could be a good leader, if he was forced into it. Generally, he agrees with the GW where it counts. Loved the game, but the ending made me feel bad for him. And I hate to feel bad for Al!


Edit. Damn - I suck at seeing colour properly. Sorry.

Well, you have to remember that's pretty much unhardened Alistair who fails at everything.  I mean in DC he's with Leliana so you know she's not hardening him.  If I had to guess he probably got bossed around by Morrigan a lot... and laughed at. 

I dunno if that makes the PC a Mary Sue so much as it makes him just look completely incompetent.

You know, Alistair basically accomplished the same exact thing all of our PCs did, except he got daeded in teh final battle.  While that does suck, it's not as if he failed totally and got killed in like Lothering or something.

And, oh lord, the rage at who he had fighting with him.  *facepalms into a headdesk*  It's clear there was no RP behind it.  Just designed to give you more interesting things to fight.

[tmp7704]

Lady Jess wrote...

Am I the only one that can't decide between unisex and female version of leather armor? I like the unisex on my elves...I mean look how dainty they are, more protection is great. But for some reason on my HNF and Brosca...I like the female version. Decisions Decisions

Worst case you can always mix-and-match them

The appearance of armour is defined by a file with .mmh extension. For light armours they go as follows:

xx_arm_lgtA_0.mmh -- the regular leather armour. xx can be "df" for dwarf females, "ef" for elf females and "hf" for human females
xx_arm_lgtB_0.mmh -- the dalish armour
xx_arm_lgtC_0.mmh -- the duster armour
xx_arm_lgtD_0.mmh -- studded leather
xx_arm_lgtE_0.mmh -- studded leather from the Awakening

if you want to keep some of the types/race combinations with their default look simply don't overwrite their .mmh files when you are unpacking the unisex version to the override.

[Axekix]

LadyDamodred wrote...

Axekix wrote...

janeym27 wrote...

OK - so Darkspawn Chronicles.
Spoilar text below.
How unfair is that 'alternate history' thing to Alistair? I think he could be a good leader, if he was forced into it. Generally, he agrees with the GW where it counts. Loved the game, but the ending made me feel bad for him. And I hate to feel bad for Al!


Edit. Damn - I suck at seeing colour properly. Sorry.

Well, you have to remember that's pretty much unhardened Alistair who fails at everything.  I mean in DC he's with Leliana so you know she's not hardening him.  If I had to guess he probably got bossed around by Morrigan a lot... and laughed at. 

I dunno if that makes the PC a Mary Sue so much as it makes him just look completely incompetent.

You know, Alistair basically accomplished the same exact thing all of our PCs did, except he got daeded in teh final battle.  While that does suck, it's not as if he failed totally and got killed in like Lothering or something.

Well he didn't find the Sacred Ashes and failed to recruit Oghren, Zev and Wynne. 

[Addai]

Axekix wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

I bought it and it felt good to kill them all for their incredible amount of stupid.

It's actually semi-challenging cause your characters are specced so badly!

I wouldn't have called it challenging, but boring yes.  Oh god, having to play S&S the first half... pure torture.

[Sarah1281]

So I've never done the 'slaughter the Dalish' option (Zevran wouldn't let me the one time I tried) but when you decide to kill the werewolves or get Zathrian to break the curse then he's in the ruins but apparently if you talk the wolves into going after the Dalish then he's in the camp. Why is that?

[Addai]

Axekix wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

I didn't waste money on it. It was one giant homage to PC McAwesomesauce and that fact that unless he/she was there to fart sunshine out of their ass, the world went to hell in a handbasket.

I think it probably would have ended better with anyone but Alistair at the helm.  I mean the more I think about it, it's not really that hard to believe.  He relies on the PC for pretty much all of his development in DAO.  Without that, well...

Get off the thread.

[Sandtigress]

From the latest interview on IGN on Leliana's song.

We wanted a character who could play with what we've already established and still feel genuine. Leliana seemed an obvious fit, because she's a natural storyteller. We also did initial design work for several other followers—some as back-story, some as epilogue, some involving the player Grey Warden, and some not. I'm confident you'll hear about another of those soon, but Leliana's Song isn't a template for what to expect. Leliana tells a stylized tale, and while I enjoyed working with the theme, we've got a different purpose in mind for each DLC release.

[janeym27]

LadyDamodred wrote...

You know, Alistair basically accomplished the same exact thing all of our PCs did, except he got daeded in teh final battle.  While that does suck, it's not as if he failed totally and got killed in like Lothering or something.

And, oh lord, the rage at who he had fighting with him.  *facepalms into a headdesk*  It's clear there was no RP behind it.  Just designed to give you more interesting things to fight.

Yeah. But the implication is still that he fails because he is Wardenless.

And I totally agree about the RP. Half his allies would have LOST you Ali approval for recruiting! Plus, I hardly see him taking the like of Zev or Morrigan as far as he does.

As to the 'unhardened Alistair fail' point: yeah. I can see that. Then again, who's to say how being the actual last hope of Feralden instead of one of two would affect him? I think he'd get very focused on what needs to be done, and do it. He's quite an 'eyes on the prize' guy.

[Sarah1281]

Addai67 wrote...

Axekix wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

I didn't waste money on it. It was one giant homage to PC McAwesomesauce and that fact that unless he/she was there to fart sunshine out of their ass, the world went to hell in a handbasket.

I think it probably would have ended better with anyone but Alistair at the helm.  I mean the more I think about it, it's not really that hard to believe.  He relies on the PC for pretty much all of his development in DAO.  Without that, well...

Get off the thread.

This looks like a job for:

[tmp7704]

Lady Jess wrote...

yukidama wrote...

The leggings look baggy? Where? Only time I see baggy is when you put on medium armor.

Yep...on the female version it looks like tights

Not a criticism, just something I noticed in all the armors that bug me.

That difference is caused by a different "normal map" used by the male version of the armour (and since the unisex armour uses the same textures, it also gets that) I toned it down a bit actually, the default has these bumps even more intensive. I'm guessing the intention there was to give more buff appearance to the limbs (these bumps roughly match shapes of leg muscles) but like many other things it's pretty overdone.

[Axekix]

Addai67 wrote...

Axekix wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

I didn't waste money on it. It was one giant homage to PC McAwesomesauce and that fact that unless he/she was there to fart sunshine out of their ass, the world went to hell in a handbasket.

I think it probably would have ended better with anyone but Alistair at the helm.  I mean the more I think about it, it's not really that hard to believe.  He relies on the PC for pretty much all of his development in DAO.  Without that, well...

Get off the thread.

What?  I'm not bashing him, just saying Alistair, more than almost any other NPC, relies on the PC for guidance and development.  You can turn him into a courageous king, or let him run away from his responsibilities and stay a big kid at heart... but both are decided by his interactions with the PC.  Without him/her there, Leliana is the closest one to him.  Which side do you think she's going to encourage? 

Unhardened Alistair vs Morrigan?  Not a chance.  Hence some of the very Morrigan-esque choices showing up in his army selection.

Modifié par Axekix, 24 juin 2010 - 11:38 .

[sylvanaerie]

Axekix wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

I didn't waste money on it. It was one giant homage to PC McAwesomesauce and that fact that unless he/she was there to fart sunshine out of their ass, the world went to hell in a handbasket.

I think it probably would have ended better with anyone but Alistair at the helm.  I mean the more I think about it, it's not really that hard to believe.  He relies on the PC for pretty much all of his development in DAO.  Without that, well...

No it would have ended the same if it was anyone else because it was all about how the PC was so awesome the entire world was epic fail without him/her.  Had nothing to do with the one in charge.  Could just as easily have been Riordan or Loghain. 

[LadyDamodred]

Axekix wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

Axekix wrote...

janeym27 wrote...

OK - so Darkspawn Chronicles.
Spoilar text below.
How unfair is that 'alternate history' thing to Alistair? I think he could be a good leader, if he was forced into it. Generally, he agrees with the GW where it counts. Loved the game, but the ending made me feel bad for him. And I hate to feel bad for Al!


Edit. Damn - I suck at seeing colour properly. Sorry.

Well, you have to remember that's pretty much unhardened Alistair who fails at everything.  I mean in DC he's with Leliana so you know she's not hardening him.  If I had to guess he probably got bossed around by Morrigan a lot... and laughed at. 

I dunno if that makes the PC a Mary Sue so much as it makes him just look completely incompetent.

You know, Alistair basically accomplished the same exact thing all of our PCs did, except he got daeded in teh final battle.  While that does suck, it's not as if he failed totally and got killed in like Lothering or something.

Well he didn't find the Sacred Ashes and failed to recruit Oghren, Zev and Wynne. 

Hmmm, the ashes thing was odd.  Did he just not find them or did he decide not to?  Either way, he still managed to end up king without Eamon.  Damn.  Gotta give him props for that.

And the PC can show up at the final battle with only one other companion, so...he obviously succeeded more than some PCs.

The point remains, he accomplished the exact same things the PC does, barring the end results.  So as far as things go...eh, it could have been much, much worse.

Modifié par LadyDamodred, 24 juin 2010 - 11:42 .

[Lady Jess]

New DLC looks promising...old DSC can take a flying leap.

[janeym27]

Axekix wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Axekix wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

I didn't waste money on it. It was one giant homage to PC McAwesomesauce and that fact that unless he/she was there to fart sunshine out of their ass, the world went to hell in a handbasket.

I think it probably would have ended better with anyone but Alistair at the helm.  I mean the more I think about it, it's not really that hard to believe.  He relies on the PC for pretty much all of his development in DAO.  Without that, well...

Get off the thread.

What?  I'm not bashing him, just saying Alistair, more than almost any other NPC, relies on the PC for guidance and development.  You can turn him into a courageous king, or let him run away from his responsibilities and stay a big kid at heart... but both are decided by his interactions with the PC.  Without him/her there, Leliana is the closest one to him.  Which side do you think she's going to encourage? 

Unhardened Alistair vs Morrigan?  Not a chance. 

Well, without the PC, he comes out of Ostegar completly alone. I can't see that making him the same person we come to know when he is with the PC. As Feralden's last and only hope against the blight, Alistair would step up. As to Leliana being the 'closest' - well, that depends on how he recruited her and how he has interacted with her. When he discovers he is Feralden's last hope, Morrigan would be his first recruit. And I think he could hold his own against her: he'd have to to make it as far as he did. In fact, the act of doing so would probably 'harden' him in another way. I think solo Alistair would be a good dela tougher and a tad more ruthless than when he has the PC to defer to...

[LadyDamodred]

Addai67 wrote...

Axekix wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

I bought it and it felt good to kill them all for their incredible amount of stupid.

It's actually semi-challenging cause your characters are specced so badly!

I wouldn't have called it challenging, but boring yes.  Oh god, having to play S&S the first half... pure torture.

*huggles her sword and shield close*

S&S is awesome~!

[Axekix]

LadyDamodred wrote...

Axekix wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

Axekix wrote...

janeym27 wrote...

OK - so Darkspawn Chronicles.
Spoilar text below.
How unfair is that 'alternate history' thing to Alistair? I think he could be a good leader, if he was forced into it. Generally, he agrees with the GW where it counts. Loved the game, but the ending made me feel bad for him. And I hate to feel bad for Al!


Edit. Damn - I suck at seeing colour properly. Sorry.

Well, you have to remember that's pretty much unhardened Alistair who fails at everything.  I mean in DC he's with Leliana so you know she's not hardening him.  If I had to guess he probably got bossed around by Morrigan a lot... and laughed at. 

I dunno if that makes the PC a Mary Sue so much as it makes him just look completely incompetent.

You know, Alistair basically accomplished the same exact thing all of our PCs did, except he got daeded in teh final battle.  While that does suck, it's not as if he failed totally and got killed in like Lothering or something.

Well he didn't find the Sacred Ashes and failed to recruit Oghren, Zev and Wynne. 

Hmmm, the ashes thing was odd.  Did he just not find them or did he decide not to.  Either way, he stall managed to end up king without Eamon.  Damn.  Gotta give him props for that.

And the PC can show up at the final battle with only one other companion, so...he obviously succeeded more than some PCs.

The point remains, he accomplished the exact same things the PC does, barring the end results.  So as far as things go...eh, it could have been much, much worse.

Oh I forgot Shale too!  He also let Howe live... even if he didn't know the details about what happened in highever... come on, the man is a rat

[Gilsa]

Axekix wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

I didn't waste money on it. It was one giant homage to PC McAwesomesauce and that fact that unless he/she was there to fart sunshine out of their ass, the world went to hell in a handbasket.

I think it probably would have ended better with anyone but Alistair at the helm.  I mean the more I think about it, it's not really that hard to believe.  He relies on the PC for pretty much all of his development in DAO.  Without that, well...

I disagree. The point of buying a game is to win in the end. Nobody is going to buy a DLC if their PC gets beaten back. Alistair -- hardened or not -- was going to fall to the player in the end no matter what. People can analyze it all the want, but everyone relevant died in the DLC. Alistair just gets a lot of flak because he's the forum's favorite punching bag.

[Lady Jess]

Just installed the human proportions.







No, Cailan. You may NOT bounce a quarter off of it.

[Axekix]

janeym27 wrote...

Axekix wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Axekix wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

I didn't waste money on it. It was one giant homage to PC McAwesomesauce and that fact that unless he/she was there to fart sunshine out of their ass, the world went to hell in a handbasket.

I think it probably would have ended better with anyone but Alistair at the helm.  I mean the more I think about it, it's not really that hard to believe.  He relies on the PC for pretty much all of his development in DAO.  Without that, well...

Get off the thread.

What?  I'm not bashing him, just saying Alistair, more than almost any other NPC, relies on the PC for guidance and development.  You can turn him into a courageous king, or let him run away from his responsibilities and stay a big kid at heart... but both are decided by his interactions with the PC.  Without him/her there, Leliana is the closest one to him.  Which side do you think she's going to encourage? 

Unhardened Alistair vs Morrigan?  Not a chance. 

Well, without the PC, he comes out of Ostegar completly alone. I can't see that making him the same person we come to know when he is with the PC. As Feralden's last and only hope against the blight, Alistair would step up.

I'm not so sure.  Remeber he's pretty much a wreck at Flemeth's hut.  Until the PC emerges at least.  Morrigan is obviously a very strong willed woman... I see her overpowering him in a lot of the decisions they make tbh.

[cmessaz]

I like the thought of actually being able to use my warden in future DLC. I'll start buying them again when that happens. If my warden went to Orlais with Leliana or something, I could totally deal with that. But I am not thrilled playing some other character.

[Lady Jess]

cmessaz wrote...

I like the thought of actually being able to use my warden in future DLC. I'll start buying them again when that happens. If my warden went to Orlais with Leliana or something, I could totally deal with that. But I am not thrilled playing some other character.

I'm getting it just to check out the voiced lines. They've tied Leliana's voice to the dialogue choices, Mass Effect style. Gotta see how that works out.