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[TotoroTori]

Costin_Razvan wrote...



I fully agree on this.

Also who wants to bet Revan will be the Dark Lord of the SIth in SW:TOR?

Honestly, the whole line that the PCs story is not ended forever is just a nice way to have people in the next game make a mention of your PC without actually seeing him/her.

Its really not...I would really love to play as my character again, I'm too attached to her! But I can really see Bioware making the disapeared Cousland queen or king a boss fight called "The fallen hero" You character would reappear and fight Hawke as a fallen character turning into something else. I wonder why we can't just import our character, personally I would love to see my character exploring some ruins or something.

[Kryyptehk]

I'm still hoping Flemeth might be a romance option (body switch?) but it sucks that my original idea of being Morrigan's father was blown out of the water.



I mean, what could be more important than being Morrigan's father? lmao

[Bratt1204]

Lady Jess wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...
I think a certain amount of anger and disappointment is completely understandable when you've just found out the wardens with the continuing story you were promised have just been ended. The wardens you put HOURS into customizing, decision making, rp'ing, gearing and playing with the hope of continuity between games. And that hope wasn't misplaced. They did it for ME, they told us there would be more. And now...this? I find it more interesting that people just refuse to understand why there would be anger.

Sure we have DLC still coming. Supposedly 2 years worth. But with everything we've seen since Awakening, it's pretty hard to feel confident any of it will include our wardens, let alone tie up their stories and loose ends.

DA3!  The Warden and Hawke unite to form the greatest fighting force ever known on Thedas!

Beh.  I am not gonna get over Hawke being "the most important person in the Dragon Age world" for a long, long time, if ever.  I just don't understand why they would do that.  People loved their Wardens so much, why lessen what they did and shove them into a background role for the sequel?

I completely agree with that. And while I'll probably buy and play DA2, it probably won't be with the joy and enthusiasm I still play DA:O with. At this point I'm just looking at it as any other game, not a part of "my" game. I'm definitely not preodering it. And does anyone know when subscribers get their copy of GI? I never pay attention to when it shows up.

I just feel nauseated at this point. I knew a DA:2 title  would be absolute shyt (after Awakening and the garbage DLC they have been releasing) and now it has been confirmed; I am so infuriated but not surprised. Awakening was absolute rubbish as far as storyline continuation from DA:O. It is quite obvious that Bioware does not give a rats ass about what it's customer want and I will absolutely not purchase anything from them again.  

[Sarah1281]

So help me, if Lya ever met Hawke and he gave her any crap about his home being destroyed, she would beat his ass so hard. And if Hawke is dating the OGB, he's a pedo. :x

He could have been just a child when he fled. That would also allow time to pass so the game doesn't have to start immediately without him being far too old to realistically (well, for a video game) do all of his championing.

[Costin_Razvan]

You do realize Hawke can also be a female though right?

[Kryyptehk]

I think it might be a little early to go around swearing vengeance against Bioware for a few crappy DLCs that Gaider didn't write and Awakening, which was a poor choice in story, given it was just an expansion. I like to think that was EA making money to make DA2 a better experience.



I think it will be a good game, mostly because I've liked most of Bioware's stuff (not to mention that ME2 was much better than ME to me). I'm reserving my outrage until I see something that really pisses me off, because everything up til now has just kind of been a let down.



Too bad they didn't go the Kotor route and give Obsidian DA, that would have been hella awesome.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

The Sith Emperor is not Revan. Check the timelines and the start wars wikia.

300 years after KOTOR 2. But who is to say a Sith can't live that long huh? After all the Dark Side has a strong power.

Again, check the timelines in the official site. It officially renounces the idea that Revan is the Sith Emperor, who is a survivor of the Old Sith war that is 1400 prior ToR. In fact, Revan met the Emperor.

Costin_Razvan wrote...
Honestly the ending of Awakening meant that your PC MIGHT return or might not, there was no guarantee either way.

"No one had any doubt" or something to that effect indicates otherwise.

But it's a slide I am ignoring for now.

[Costin_Razvan]

It wouldn't be the first time Lucas Arts revives a supposed long dead character Knight. I would be seriously surprised if they don't include Revan and the Exile in the story, one way or another.

[ejoslin]

I'm picturing THIS right now. DA:O with voiced actors. You know, how about that moment when Alistair hands the warden the rose. Can you even begin to imagine how much less immersive it would be if it were voiced? Maybe the "feeling thorny" comment would be playful and teasing. The whole, "Your new weapon of choice?" Do you imagine that being said playfully? In a mock serious tone? It helps make it a conversation YOU are having.

Urgh. I can't imagine actually that little part of me falling in love like I did with Alistair and with Zevran with a voiced actor. Saying to Zevran when he declares his feelings, "Maybe it would be better for you if we stopped." Is it serious? Is it pained? Is it angry? Voiced, the conversation would no longer be one that *I'm* having!

*sigh* I'll stop ranting now. But since I keep thinking about the rose conversation with Alistair, I thought I'd rant here as well!

Modifié par ejoslin, 09 juillet 2010 - 06:32 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

It wouldn't be the first time Lucas Arts revives a supposed long dead character Knight. I would be seriously surprised if they don't include Revan and the Exile in the story, one way or another.

I did not deny that. But he is not the Sith Emperor whether he is revived or not.

And yea, Lucasart just revived that imbecile from TFU that no one cares in their quest to butcher everything about Star Wars.

Sigh, all great franchises falling apart around us.

[KnightofPhoenix]

ejoslin wrote...

I'm picturing THIS right now. DA:O with voiced actors. You know, how about that moment when Alistair hands the warden the rose. Can you even begin to imagine how much less immersive it would be if it were voiced? Maybe the "feeling thorny" comment would be playful and teasing. The whole, "You're new weapon of choice?" Do you imagine that being said playfully? In a mock serious tone? It helps make it a conversation YOU are having.

Urgh. I can't imagine actually that little part of me falling in love like I did with Alistair and with Zevran with a voiced actor. Saying to Zevran when he declares his feelings, "Maybe it would be better for you if we stopped." Is it serious? Is it pained? Is it angry? Voiced, the conversation would no longer be one that *I'm* having!

*sigh* I'll stop ranting now. But since I keep thinking about the rose conversation with Alistair, I thought I'd rant here as well!

My thoughts exactly.
Shepard sucks in the romance departement (among many other things).

It would require a realy good VA to make it bareable. A bad VA is going to destroy even the best written romances.

And I can't even imagine the Morrigan romance with a VA. It really had the potential to destroy it.

[Costin_Razvan]

It would require a realy good VA to make it bareable. A bad VA is going to destroy even the best written romances.

It has been done before in the Witcher with a voiced character. While I agree Shepard does suck in that department ( though I honestly laughed my ass off at the female Shepard and Jacob interaction ) it can be done quite well.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 09 juillet 2010 - 06:42 .

[Sarah1281]

I cannot even begin to describe just how much it bothers me that my Shepard - who was tempted to go after Garrus but couldn't go through with it because not enough time had passed for her (with the whole being dead thing) to move on from Kaidan even if he was being very unsupportive - wouldn't stop having a flirty tone whenever she talked to Jacob. NOT INTERESTED. Couldn't they at least have waited until the romance was activated for thast stupid 'I'm more interested in just...talking...for a bit' line?

[LadyDamodred]

Sarah1281 wrote...

So help me, if Lya ever met Hawke and he gave her any crap about his home being destroyed, she would beat his ass so hard. And if Hawke is dating the OGB, he's a pedo. :x

He could have been just a child when he fled. That would also allow time to pass so the game doesn't have to start immediately without him being far too old to realistically (well, for a video game) do all of his championing.

It says he fled north.  I am assuming that means he did it under his own power, and thus is not a child.  I could be wrong, but I don't think so.

And I wholeheartedly agree with the whole VO thing.  The best VA in the world can never truly replicate the nuances I put on things when I hear them in my head.

An excellent point to illustrate this is to have people read outloud.  You can have a dozen people read the same piece and you'll get a dozen different versions.  People put themselves into something when they read.  It's unavoidable.

Note:  My hands are stained red atm, but that is from the red velvet cupcakes I just made.  Is it okay to pretend it's the blood of the victims I kill as I express my rage? 

Ror!

[MelRedux]

I  Garrus.

Carry on.

[Lara Denton]

ejoslin wrote...

I'm picturing THIS right now. DA:O with voiced actors. You know, how about that moment when Alistair hands the warden the rose. Can you even begin to imagine how much less immersive it would be if it were voiced? Maybe the "feeling thorny" comment would be playful and teasing. The whole, "Your new weapon of choice?" Do you imagine that being said playfully? In a mock serious tone? It helps make it a conversation YOU are having.

Urgh. I can't imagine actually that little part of me falling in love like I did with Alistair and with Zevran with a voiced actor. Saying to Zevran when he declares his feelings, "Maybe it would be better for you if we stopped." Is it serious? Is it pained? Is it angry? Voiced, the conversation would no longer be one that *I'm* having!

*sigh* I'll stop ranting now. But since I keep thinking about the rose conversation with Alistair, I thought I'd rant here as well!

It's going to be like watching a movie. You see the characters, be you don't quite "feel" like being them. 

[LadyDamodred]

Costin_Razvan wrote...
You do realize Hawke can also be a female though right?

Yes....

*isn't quite sure what difference that makes*

Mmmm, Maricstair classic Edition:

[Patriciachr34]

Sarah1281, that is why I just stopped talking to Jacob in ME2. My Shepard would NEVER use that kind of overt come on with someone she just met. Blech!

[Kryyptehk]

Sarah1281 wrote...

I cannot even begin to describe just how much it bothers me that my Shepard - who was tempted to go after Garrus but couldn't go through with it because not enough time had passed for her (with the whole being dead thing) to move on from Kaidan even if he was being very unsupportive - wouldn't stop having a flirty tone whenever she talked to Jacob. NOT INTERESTED. Couldn't they at least have waited until the romance was activated for thast stupid 'I'm more interested in just...talking...for a bit' line?

OMG, yes. I wouldn't talk to Jacob on any of my characters because of the fact that Shepard pretty much sat across from him with her legs open. Heck, I thought they could just be friends (since I'd heard of Thane and was looking forward to romancing him) but as soon as Shepard opened her mouth, I quickly backed away. The only convo I had with Jacob after that was to get his loyalty quest. He was our resident gun-cleaner for the entire game.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

It would require a realy good VA to make it bareable. A bad VA is going to destroy even the best written romances.

It has been done before in the Witcher with a voiced character. While I agree Shepard does suck in that department ( though I honestly laughed my ass off at the female Shepard and Jacob interaction ) it can be done quite well.

I did not play Witcher, so I cannot judge. But I would be really surprised if its romances are superior to DA:Os.

Like LD says, when I want to play a character of my creation, me imagining him saying it offers more nuance than a VA would. But we get back to the same point. We are not playing our character, we are playing a character created for us.

For some, that might be good. But what I love about Origins and what captivated me so is my ability to create my own distinct and nuanced characters.

If the VA for Hawke turns out to be a tough guy thing, then I can no longer create and RP a charming suave rogue a la Xanatos. Which is tragic! 

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 09 juillet 2010 - 06:48 .

[shedevil3001]

yeah but with the witcher it is a continued story, dao has no continuity nothing you do matters so if all your companions die in the first 1 and your warden does the us ending it wont make any difference to saving everyone as you wont get any continuity as proven by everything released after dao.

[Giggles_Manically]

I agree with KoP my PC's were all voiced in my head better than MonoMear and BreathlessHale can do a role.



My Dalish came off like Jack Sparrow and was sarcastic, while my Dwarf Noble had a tough yet wise voice to me. Also my city elf who 'nommed' alistair had a sultry voice but an open one to me to best fit the romance.



Also does anyone else realize that actual dialouge is going to be what a third of origins if we are lucky? Ah well EA has killed another franchise.

[KnightofPhoenix]

*gasp* shedevil, we've missed you

[Costin_Razvan]

shedevil3001 wrote...

yeah but with the witcher it is a continued story, dao has no continuity nothing you do matters so if all your companions die in the first 1 and your warden does the us ending it wont make any difference to saving everyone as you wont get any continuity as proven by everything released after dao.

True enough, but who is to say they can't provide continuity to Hawke's story like they did with Mass Effect?

[shedevil3001]

ea only cares about 1 thing making money nothing else, but bioware i expected much better from, oh well yet another dissapointment, life is like that in the gaming industry, you get a great game then everything after that just goes downhill, too bad i'll just stick to playing dao or go back to playing nwn :{