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Alistair, post-coronation... and/or Alistair gush thread (Origins/Awakening Spoilers)


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Zyanic wrote...

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 I get the sense that what they find awesome about their game is not what I find awesome about their game at all (because, so far, I have seen no DW NBA in the promotional materialsPosted Image). 


 I went to a happy place where I imagined a game focused entirely on a naked barbarian Alistair, no idea what it would be about but I get the feeling I wouldn't care too much.
Not naked here I'm afraid, but still nice.
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I'm going to miss Alistair :wub:, although I am still hoping I might hear about him in DA2.

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phaonica wrote...

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Y'know, I'm hoping that the Hawke storyline is just leading into a better storyline for our characters. Like, something has to happen that you can't have a choice on, so it's more acceptable for them to use Hawke rather than our original characters....or something. I'm ever the optimistic lol

This would mean your Warden would have to be voiced in a future game.

That's what really is in my craw, the voiced PC and forcing DA2 to be a Mass Effect clone.  Reading the dev comments from the Game Informer article about how boring and decrepit Origins supposedly is infuriates me.  They're out trashing their own product and comparing it unfavorably to a game I find unplayable.


I agree with you about the VO thing. The first person perspective was what I liked best about Origins. Unless they somehow intend to try to pull off a first person perspective with VOs, of which I am highly skeptical.


I can deal with Hawke. I can deal with the Flemeth Morrigan rumor. I can even deal with the voice acted PC. I don't like any of those things, but I can deal. Whar I can't deal with is the dialogue wheel. It's like sitting at the movies with someone who keeps poking you in the shoulder saying 'he's going to talk now!' Or reading a book and having to push a button to get the next line. It's a constant pull from immersion that keeps reminding you that it's just a game, the characters are fake, and the PC is a puppet.

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 I'm very much of the mind that the trailer for the 'sequel' isn't even going to be out for a month yet, and while I understand people's curiousity I just don't see the point in speculating about it. That's not meant to be a dig at anyone, just my personal thoughts.
 

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I'm going to miss Alistair Posted Image, although I am still hoping I might hear about him in DA2.


I would miss Alistair except I'm going to stubbornly replay DA:O until I can probably recite all possible dialogue options. I'm refusing to think of DA2 as a sequel, unless it ties in with my warden's story it'll just be another game.

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laradenton wrote...

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 Off topic: why is the warden "the Warden"?


Th emphasis is on "The". Posted Image
And because that's probably the only thing that all our very different characters share.   

I still don't get it. Duncan and Alistair are also wardens, Warden-Commander is a title, I get that, but "the Warden" is used in order to distinguish the main character from the others? Or what?

ETA: <3
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 It's because the sun shines from the PC's butt, so their special. It's the rule of video gaming. The player character must be more awesome than anyone else at all times. ;) Seriously though, it's an awkward solution to the fact that we all have different warden names, and worded such because Alistair might not be there.

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Zyanic wrote...


 I'm very much of the mind that the trailer for the 'sequel' isn't even going to be out for a month yet, and while I understand people's curiousity I just don't see the point in speculating about it. That's not meant to be a dig at anyone, just my personal thoughts.
 

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I'm going to miss Alistair Posted Image, although I am still hoping I might hear about him in DA2.


I would miss Alistair except I'm going to stubbornly replay DA:O until I can probably recite all possible dialogue options. I'm refusing to think of DA2 as a sequel, unless it ties in with my warden's story it'll just be another game.

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I'm thinking it's time to get serious about modding and make some DLC. Hmmm I suppose if we record the actors voices on other shows and splice them into mods where approptiate , we'd get in trouble, huh? Great picture. He looks like he's refusing to do something and she can't believe it.

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I'm thinking it's time to get serious about modding and make some DLC. Hmmm I suppose if we record the actors voices on other shows and splice them into mods where approptiate , we'd get in trouble, huh?


Only if we got caught Posted Image Operation secret DLC: commence!

I jest, I wouldn't have a clue how to do any of that in all honesty. I can barely work out how to download the toolset let alone anything else.

I would of course support any such action from the shadows, like a ninja...or a tramp.

Modifié par Zyanic, 12 juillet 2010 - 04:44 .


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Zyanic wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

I'm thinking it's time to get serious about modding and make some DLC. Hmmm I suppose if we record the actors voices on other shows and splice them into mods where approptiate , we'd get in trouble, huh?


Only if we got caught Posted Image Operation secret DLC: commence!

I jest, I wouldn't have a clue how to do any of that in all honesty. I can barely work out how to download the toolset let alone anything else.

I would of course support any such action from the shadows, like a ninja...or a tramp.


Just took a peek at the thread, and..I'm totally down for some fresh new DLC Alistair modding :bandit: heh, heh, heh...
I'm in.

Modifié par DahliaLynn, 12 juillet 2010 - 04:58 .


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Speaking of modding, I'm trying a retint and I could use some expert advice. I'm trying to make an armor that has the same coloration of Alistair's Awakening armor (gold and white-silver), but has a simpler design. First I'll show you the pictures, then I'll tall you the probems I'm having:

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Gold is tough. It's hard to get the right color and a specular reflection that looks right. This seems okay, but maybe a little too much like brass. I had to make the little piece at the front with the crown on it gold, too even though it's a separate channel, because there's a piece in the back that shares the color, and it looks weird if it's not gold or silver/white. I can't make it silver, because the crown motief shares a map with all the parts that are white-silver, and it looks weird if the background and foreground are the same color. Also, that little piece seems to take most of it's color from the specular color rather than the diffuse, making it brighter than I'd like.

The other problem is that I'd like to make the black parts into a darker gold, but I'd have to change the tint map, itself to do that. Is that possible, and if so, how do I do it without changing every other piece of armor that uses it?
 
Also, the white is a little too white, maybe. What's the best way to tone it down a little without making it look like steel of silverite.

Modifié par errant_knight, 12 juillet 2010 - 05:16 .


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Alistair modding? Time to de-lurk.

As for the cutting and splicing of the actors voices from other shows, just don't go there. While it's a good idea, all it takes is for one person to scream 'copyright theft' and well...it won't be pretty.

We could work with the audio files we already have access to in the game, but other than paying the actors to record more lines, I don't think there's much we could do for custom voice over's. :(

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I wonder how much the actual voice actors for the games get paid...

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FFZero wrote...

Alistair modding? Time to de-lurk.

As for the cutting and splicing of the actors voices from other shows, just don't go there. While it's a good idea, all it takes is for one person to scream 'copyright theft' and well...it won't be pretty.

We could work with the audio files we already have access to in the game, but other than paying the actors to record more lines, I don't think there's much we could do for custom voice over's. :(

Hello de-lurker! :wizard:

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laradenton wrote...

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Alistair modding? Time to de-lurk.

As for the cutting and splicing of the actors voices from other shows, just don't go there. While it's a good idea, all it takes is for one person to scream 'copyright theft' and well...it won't be pretty.

We could work with the audio files we already have access to in the game, but other than paying the actors to record more lines, I don't think there's much we could do for custom voice over's. :(

Hello de-lurker! :wizard:


Realistically, I think it would have to be unvoiced. It would be possible to edit the lines that exist to make new ones, but very hard to do it seemlessly.

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errant_knight wrote...

Speaking of modding, I'm trying a retint and I could use some expert advice. I'm trying to make an armor that has the same coloration of Alistair's Awakening armor (gold and white-silver), but has a simpler design. First I'll show you the pictures, then I'll tall you the probems I'm having:


I'll PM you regarding the little I know about this particular part of the toolset  :) 

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Hmm just had this thought...
... what if BioWare gets Steve Valentine to do Hawke's voice? Posted Image

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tmp7704 wrote...

Hmm just had this thought...
... what if BioWare gets Steve Valentine to do Hawke's voice? Posted Image


No.

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tmp7704 wrote...

Hmm just had this thought...
... what if BioWare gets Steve Valentine to do Hawke's voice? Posted Image


I'll still hate the dialogue wheel. ;)

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tmp7704 wrote...

Hmm just had this thought...
... what if BioWare gets Steve Valentine to do Hawke's voice? Posted Image


Then we would know why he's The Most Awesomest Ever. His rise to power is fueled by velvet-voiced squee.

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FFZero wrote...

Alistair modding? Time to de-lurk.

As for the cutting and splicing of the actors voices from other shows, just don't go there. While it's a good idea, all it takes is for one person to scream 'copyright theft' and well...it won't be pretty.

We could work with the audio files we already have access to in the game, but other than paying the actors to record more lines, I don't think there's much we could do for custom voice over's. :(


*waves*  as a recent de-lurker myself I approve of such actions.

as for the voices thing I wouldn't actually approve of copyright thievery since it's a bad thing in my opinion. Doesn't mean I'd rush to the authorities should a not too official Alistair DLC find its way onto my computer Posted Image I've wandered into fantasy land again, Ignore me Posted Image
 Ah well, off to drool over some pixels again.
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Herr Uhl wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

Hmm just had this thought...
... what if BioWare gets Steve Valentine to do Hawke's voice? Posted Image


No.

I suspect Sten will have a cameo, btw. Given things start in Lothering around when the darkspawn comes.

Well, suspect is wrong word, hope is more like it.

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tmp7704 wrote...

Hmm just had this thought...
... what if BioWare gets Steve Valentine to do Hawke's voice? Posted Image


No! He's Alistair!
although last I saw Steve Valentine had 'heard nothing about DA2' so it's unlikely I guess. ( I realise this wasn't an entirely serious suggestion.)

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Zyanic wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

Hmm just had this thought...
... what if BioWare gets Steve Valentine to do Hawke's voice? Posted Image


No! He's Alistair!
although last I saw Steve Valentine had 'heard nothing about DA2' so it's unlikely I guess. ( I realise this wasn't an entirely serious suggestion.)


He DID mention it was "too early to tell" ;) (and that was just a few days ago)

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DahliaLynn wrote...

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although last I saw Steve Valentine had 'heard nothing about DA2' so it's unlikely I guess. ( I realise this wasn't an entirely serious suggestion.)


He DID mention it was "too early to tell" ;)


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DahliaLynn wrote...

Zyanic wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

Hmm just had this thought...
... what if BioWare gets Steve Valentine to do Hawke's voice? Posted Image


No! He's Alistair!
although last I saw Steve Valentine had 'heard nothing about DA2' so it's unlikely I guess. ( I realise this wasn't an entirely serious suggestion.)


He DID mention it was "too early to tell" ;)


Yeah, it's probably too early in production for them to have contacted him. Maybe this thread get to him first. We could hire him for our custom DLC. We could start a pool. [/end wishful thinking]

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Zyanic wrote...

DahliaLynn wrote...

Zyanic wrote...

although last I saw Steve Valentine had 'heard nothing about DA2' so it's unlikely I guess. ( I realise this wasn't an entirely serious suggestion.)


He DID mention it was "too early to tell" ;)


Yeah, we don't seem slightly stalkerish or anything do we? Posted Image


who....mois???? nahhhhh :whistle:

actually, his tweets show up on my myspace :P

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tmp7704 wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

Hmm just had this thought...
... what if BioWare gets Steve Valentine to do Hawke's voice? Posted Image


No.

I suspect Sten will have a cameo, btw. Given things start in Lothering around when the darkspawn comes.

Well, suspect is wrong word, hope is more like it.


Talking to someone who always blows you off would be fun.