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Lunarionsilver wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Ugh, if you need a reason why Alistair should always be hardened, how he talks about Eamon when unhardened is it. 


You know, I've never actually hardened Alistair... in that sense at least (I'm sorry, I couldn't resist).

:devil:

Mostly because when I think of a hardened Alistair I think of renegade Kaidan from Mass Effect, which I despise. So, how much of a difference does it really make when it comes to Alistair? Curious, really. Does he lose his goofy charm or is it more a subtle thing?

Edit: Oh, and awesome poutastic screenshot, by the way. :P


I've only played ME once, and didn't know about renegade Kaidan, so I'm not sure how Kaidan changes.  I can't imagine a renegade Kaidan. :mellow:

With Alistair it's really just making him realize he has to stand up for himself. The biggest difference is how he accepts the kingship. If Alistair is going to be king, I always harden him. He doesn't regret it as much, and actually will ask (or demand in some cases) that he be king.

Also, if Alistair is going to be king, and you want to continue your romance and you are an elf/mage/dwarf you have to harden him in order to convince him to keep the relationship going.

If I'm not going to make him king, then sometimes I won't harden him. But hardening him doesn't make him meaner, or renegade in any way -- it just lets him look out for himself and his own needs better.

I highly recommend Cme's mod. Not only do you get a  hug, a fantastic array of love scenes (by Dahlia, tmp & BSC), and broken dialog & bugs fixed, you also get a much better choice of lines in which to harden Alistair.

Oh, where the mind goes every time I type that! :innocent:

Cme's mod is here: 

social.bioware.com/project/2573/

Modifié par sabreene, 24 juillet 2010 - 06:54 .


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Sandtigress wrote...

TotoroTori wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

What did you guys send him?

Sabreene's pic of his face morphed over the statue with all the statue-women bathing him.  Posted Image  Sandi told him it was an Alistair tribute from the gush thread.



You guys didn't :mellow:

He is going to try and stay clear now of us rapid fangirls..


We did, he tweeted back, and we fangirled over it.  Yup, definitely fangirled over it.


OMG :wub::wub::wub: He responded!! And you sent it to him!!!! lmao!!! I'll just fangirl over here for a moment :D

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Addai, I love that picture up top!! What a look! *melts*

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sabreene wrote...

Sandtigress wrote...

TotoroTori wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

What did you guys send him?

Sabreene's pic of his face morphed over the statue with all the statue-women bathing him.  Posted Image  Sandi told him it was an Alistair tribute from the gush thread.



You guys didn't :mellow:

He is going to try and stay clear now of us rapid fangirls..


We did, he tweeted back, and we fangirled over it.  Yup, definitely fangirled over it.


OMG :wub::wub::wub: He responded!! And you sent it to him!!!! lmao!!! I'll just fangirl over here for a moment :D


See!!!  Aren't you glad?  You caused twitterpating all over the Heartie-verse today.

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sabreene wrote...

Addai, I love that picture up top!! What a look! *melts*


He's talking about running off to Orlais to live in sin and eat cake.  :wub:

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Hmm. I suppose I shall harden him on this playthrough and see what I think then. And yes, Renegade Kaidan is wrong on so many, many levels.

I'm already Dialogue Tweaks, Morrigan's Restoration, Zevran's Restoration, Gatekisses, a tweaked version of Endgame Dialogue Epilogue Slides, and Better Sex Scenes. Looking at it it doesn't seem compatible with either Dialogue Tweaks or EDES. *Pouts*

I'm a bit of a sucker for dialogue and scene restorations among other... things. *giggles*

Edit: @ Addai - Sexy picture. Sign me up for sin and cake eating, please.

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Lunarionsilver wrote...

Hmm. I suppose I shall harden him on this playthrough and see what I think then. And yes, Renegade Kaidan is wrong on so many, many levels.
I'm already Dialogue Tweaks, Morrigan's Restoration, Zevran's Restoration, Gatekisses, a tweaked version of Endgame Dialogue Epilogue Slides, and Better Sex Scenes. Looking at it it doesn't seem compatible with either Dialogue Tweaks or EDES. *Pouts*
I'm a bit of a sucker for dialogue and scene restorations among other... things. *giggles*


Oh, you don't have CRS?  You have to get CRS!!!  As someone said on another thread, every red-blooded Alistair fangirl needs that one.  Srsly.  Look at the videos link in my signature if you need convincing.

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CRS is a must on my game, I don't care about dialog tweaks and stuff (since CRS fixes the Alistair dialog anyway).

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Lunarionsilver wrote...

Hmm. I suppose I shall harden him on this playthrough and see what I think then. And yes, Renegade Kaidan is wrong on so many, many levels.

I'm already Dialogue Tweaks, Morrigan's Restoration, Zevran's Restoration, Gatekisses, a tweaked version of Endgame Dialogue Epilogue Slides, and Better Sex Scenes. Looking at it it doesn't seem compatible with either Dialogue Tweaks or EDES. *Pouts*

I'm a bit of a sucker for dialogue and scene restorations among other... things. *giggles*

Edit: @ Addai - Sexy picture. Sign me up for sin and cake eating, please.


I use it with Dialog Tweaks, Morrigan, Ejoslin's Zevran Dialog Fixes (I'm not sure if that's what your using for Zevran Restoration) and Gatekisses.

You could use the Endgame Slides by just deleting the slide files from Cme's mod. The dialog fixes that Endgame fixed are fixed in Cme's too -- or at least, I didn't notice any that weren't.  And you don't need Better Sex Scenes because they're included :devil: You get better sex scenes, tmp's mild romance scenes and a most wonderful first night scene with Alistair for the first time you.. you know :D

I agree -- I need to have my dialogue fixes!!  (amoung other things).

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sylvanaerie wrote...

CRS is a must on my game, I don't care about dialog tweaks and stuff (since CRS fixes the Alistair dialog anyway).


CRS is a total must in my game too. Before CRS I tried out different Alistair dialogue fixing mods, and Cme's is the best. You won't be sorry! :D

I have a video of the first night scene too, for elf & human (they're slightly different).

Here's the human one:

www.youtube.com/watch

and the elf one:

www.youtube.com/watch

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Addai67 wrote...

sabreene wrote...

Sandtigress wrote...

TotoroTori wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

What did you guys send him?

Sabreene's pic of his face morphed over the statue with all the statue-women bathing him.  Posted Image  Sandi told him it was an Alistair tribute from the gush thread.



You guys didn't :mellow:

He is going to try and stay clear now of us rapid fangirls..


We did, he tweeted back, and we fangirled over it.  Yup, definitely fangirled over it.


OMG :wub::wub::wub: He responded!! And you sent it to him!!!! lmao!!! I'll just fangirl over here for a moment :D


See!!!  Aren't you glad?  You caused twitterpating all over the Heartie-verse today.


I can't believe it!!! <3 Sandi!! He was so sweet to reply -- that just makes it all the more :wub::wub:

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sabreene wrote...

Lunarionsilver wrote...

Hmm. I suppose I shall harden him on this playthrough and see what I think then. And yes, Renegade Kaidan is wrong on so many, many levels.

I'm already Dialogue Tweaks, Morrigan's Restoration, Zevran's Restoration, Gatekisses, a tweaked version of Endgame Dialogue Epilogue Slides, and Better Sex Scenes. Looking at it it doesn't seem compatible with either Dialogue Tweaks or EDES. *Pouts*

I'm a bit of a sucker for dialogue and scene restorations among other... things. *giggles*

Edit: @ Addai - Sexy picture. Sign me up for sin and cake eating, please.


I use it with Dialog Tweaks, Morrigan, Ejoslin's Zevran Dialog Fixes (I'm not sure if that's what your using for Zevran Restoration) and Gatekisses.

You could use the Endgame Slides by just deleting the slide files from Cme's mod. The dialog fixes that Endgame fixed are fixed in Cme's too -- or at least, I didn't notice any that weren't.  And you don't need Better Sex Scenes because they're included :devil: You get better sex scenes, tmp's mild romance scenes and a most wonderful first night scene with Alistair for the first time you.. you know :D

I agree -- I need to have my dialogue fixes!!  (amoung other things).


I actually run EDES's Alistair dilaogue files as well as the slides. My reason, and you may find this funny, is actually because of a line the author adds when first meeting Alistair in Ostigar. It allows a warrior/rogue to responde a little sarcastically when Alistair asks if you're another mage. His response takes the dwarven answer about mages sneaking up on you. I love it to death.

However those first night scenes are awefully tempting. Hmm, me thinks I'll have to change out mods.

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It's not off topic because of

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But how do you make Kaidan renegade? Do you have to choose a specific line, like you do with Alistair?

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You also get wonderfully cinematic kisses like this, before each.. umm.. bedtime.



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AND



Alistair is so good, he's learned Morrigan & Zevran's techniques. You get their love scenes, but with Alistair.



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Lunarionsilver wrote...

sabreene wrote...

Lunarionsilver wrote...

Hmm. I suppose I shall harden him on this playthrough and see what I think then. And yes, Renegade Kaidan is wrong on so many, many levels.

I'm already Dialogue Tweaks, Morrigan's Restoration, Zevran's Restoration, Gatekisses, a tweaked version of Endgame Dialogue Epilogue Slides, and Better Sex Scenes. Looking at it it doesn't seem compatible with either Dialogue Tweaks or EDES. *Pouts*

I'm a bit of a sucker for dialogue and scene restorations among other... things. *giggles*

Edit: @ Addai - Sexy picture. Sign me up for sin and cake eating, please.


I use it with Dialog Tweaks, Morrigan, Ejoslin's Zevran Dialog Fixes (I'm not sure if that's what your using for Zevran Restoration) and Gatekisses.

You could use the Endgame Slides by just deleting the slide files from Cme's mod. The dialog fixes that Endgame fixed are fixed in Cme's too -- or at least, I didn't notice any that weren't.  And you don't need Better Sex Scenes because they're included :devil: You get better sex scenes, tmp's mild romance scenes and a most wonderful first night scene with Alistair for the first time you.. you know :D

I agree -- I need to have my dialogue fixes!!  (amoung other things).


I actually run EDES's Alistair dilaogue files as well as the slides. My reason, and you may find this funny, is actually because of a line the author adds when first meeting Alistair in Ostigar. It allows a warrior/rogue to responde a little sarcastically when Alistair asks if you're another mage. His response takes the dwarven answer about mages sneaking up on you. I love it to death.

However those first night scenes are awefully tempting. Hmm, me thinks I'll have to change out mods.


You could change them out after you get to camp :D

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In order to make Kaidan a Renegade you need to tell him "All Turians are the same" when he tells you about... Vyrnuss? The Turian Biotics teacher he had. After that you get a few more dialogue choices, and if you keep going with Renegade options you'll eventually convince him of a Renegade, pro-human, racists viewpoint, just like Renegade Shepard. It's so very wrong. Esentually you create racist Kaidan. *Cries*

And um...

Alistair! *Squees* See? On topic.

Edit: Alright, alright, I'm convinved. Off to go play in compatibility land and swim through my Override folder to get it working. :P

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sabreene wrote...

Alistair is so good, he's learned Morrigan & Zevran's techniques. You get their love scenes, but with Alistair.

[smilie]http://naiad.smugmug.com/photos/896188460_bAXcj-XL.jpg[/smilie]

WTF?!?  That's the M!PC's move!  Alistair has been creeping around Morrigan's tent eh? <_<

edit: this forum's formatting really really sucks. 

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Gaaah. I'm having guests over for a few days and have been cleaning the warzone called my room. I suspect it would have been a lot easier had my grandmother not insisted we take my bed apart and move everything around I feel like someone beat me with a hammer. Not fun because I'm in NYC and loooots of sightseeing and walking with my buddies coming up. Gahhhhhhhhh tired. Need Alistair hug nao. Thx.

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Axekix wrote...

WTF?!?  That's the M!PC's move!  Alistair has been creeping around Morrigan's tent eh? <_<


Who *hasn't* been creeping around Morrigan's tent? Posted Image

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Not fun because I'm in NYC and loooots of sightseeing and walking with my buddies coming up. Gahhhhhhhhh tired. Need Alistair hug nao. Thx.

Are you guys caught in the heatwave up there too?  It was 106 here today. 

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Lunarionsilver wrote...

In order to make Kaidan a Renegade you need to tell him "All Turians are the same" when he tells you about... Vyrnuss? The Turian Biotics teacher he had. After that you get a few more dialogue choices, and if you keep going with Renegade options you'll eventually convince him of a Renegade, pro-human, racists viewpoint, just like Renegade Shepard. It's so very wrong. Esentually you create racist Kaidan. *Cries*

And um...

Alistair! *Squees* See? On topic.

Edit: Alright, alright, I'm convinved. Off to go play in compatibility land and swim through my Override folder to get it working. :P


Noooooo, tha's just wrong. I remember that choice.  Kaidan can't turn renegade & racist. Or anti-alien. He's so good. That's one of the reasons I <3 him so much. That, and well, other things.

But, Alistair!

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WTF?!?  That's the M!PC's move!  Alistair has been creeping around Morrigan's tent eh? <_<


Who *hasn't* been creeping around Morrigan's tent? Posted Image

Now I have the image of Alistair spying on Morri's tent time burned into my brain. *shudder*:pinched:

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Gaaah. I'm having guests over for a few days and have been cleaning the warzone called my room. I suspect it would have been a lot easier had my grandmother not insisted we take my bed apart and move everything around I feel like someone beat me with a hammer. Not fun because I'm in NYC and loooots of sightseeing and walking with my buddies coming up. Gahhhhhhhhh tired. Need Alistair hug nao. Thx.



But... you just fixed your bed. You had to take it apart??!! Can you beat others with a hammer? Is it legal there yet?

I spent the day at a lawyer's office, meetings & more meetings & then group meetings. It was the most boringest day ever. The weather was beautiful outside (a nice 76 degrees) but they had the air on so that it felt like December in Alaska. I wish business men would stop wearing suits, so they wouldn't get so damn hot and freeze the rest of us out.

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phaonica wrote...

Axekix wrote...

WTF?!?  That's the M!PC's move!  Alistair has been creeping around Morrigan's tent eh? <_<


Who *hasn't* been creeping around Morrigan's tent? Posted Image


Really. Her tent should probably be hosed down periodically. I don't even want to think of the stickiness factor... eww.

And I think by the time they get to the castle, they probably know every single move the other companions have. You know Oghren does.

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Lunarionsilver wrote...

In order to make Kaidan a Renegade you need to tell him "All Turians are the same" when he tells you about... Vyrnuss? The Turian Biotics teacher he had. After that you get a few more dialogue choices, and if you keep going with Renegade options you'll eventually convince him of a Renegade, pro-human, racists viewpoint, just like Renegade Shepard. It's so very wrong. Esentually you create racist Kaidan. *Cries*

And um...

Alistair! *Squees* See? On topic.

Edit: Alright, alright, I'm convinved. Off to go play in compatibility land and swim through my Override folder to get it working. :P


Noooooo, tha's just wrong. I remember that choice.  Kaidan can't turn renegade & racist. Or anti-alien. He's so good. That's one of the reasons I <3 him so much. That, and well, other things.

But, Alistair!


Heh, exactly. Hence my trepedation when considering whether or not to harden Alistair. From the sounds of it though it doesn't seem like a huge personality change. Alistair with a backbone might be fun. *Evil grin*

Huh? What? Sorry, my mind wait to a bad place.

Oh Hells, this looks like it might be a bit of a juggling act to get CRS installed considering how I had everything else set up to be semi compatible. This could be fun. :blink:

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