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Serissia

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I just can't bring myself to make Alistair DW, he looks so cute in his massive armors and matching shields.

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LadyDamodred

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Serissia wrote...

I just can't bring myself to make Alistair DW, he looks so cute in his massive armors and matching shields.


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Lady, Surely. Whoever of you posts a screenie of Kal'Hirol with vigilance and heartwood shield, will recieve a special present.

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LadyDamodred

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I'm wearing the actually, you just can't see them.



Really want a screenie?

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KnightofPhoenix

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Yes, I do.

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Me too!! me too!!

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LadyDamodred

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Yes, I do.


Here ya go.  Please to note the crest.  ^_^
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LadyDamodred wrote...

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Keep 'em coming LD! I especially love that you have her in GWC armor...it definitely looks the best on a female out of all the heavy armors. And Alistair in Cailan's armor?...ROWR!


Indeed!  My favorite outfits for them in Origins.  After Awakening, I can totally see them in the matching sets of armor, though when Lya wants to make a point, I think she dons Sentinel armor.



I read Sundered Order last night and ya know what, I think she would. Great story by the way, I love it and the one you keep calling terrible, it had me glued!

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Shiny awesomeness!!!!

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KnightofPhoenix

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Of course, I also put the Cousland crest for my warrior. Wouldn't expect any less from Lya :)

Looks cooler though if the vigilance is on fire.

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I'm enjoying Sundered Order too!! Have you updated it recently?



.....I guess by the time you respond, I could have just gone over there and checked for myself...lol

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LadyDamodred wrote...

That right there is where I think most people end up disagreeing.  It is not a flaw in his personality.  It is part of who he is and he cannot deny it.  Hardened, unhardened, doesn't matter.  He is who he is, and when you put his back to a wall, he fights for who he is.  If Duncan had been there, if how the Grey Wardens really are had been explained to Alistair, this probably wouldn't have happened.  At this crucial moment, he shows he is not willing to give up everything about his morals and sense of justice to increase the odds a tiny bit.  It is up to the PC to decide whether this is a good or a bad thing.


I just got through calling it Alistair's tragic flaw in another thread but you make me want to back up and revise.  I think I would rather only refer to it as hamartia, which in tragedy is often translated as the "fatal flaw" or "mistake" that somebody makes causes everything to go to pot, for instance, Macbeth's ambition.  In reality, it is just the reason.  It is part of who he is, and in certain permutations of the story that can cause tragedy, it is not necessarily a "flaw."  In a class I had it described as potentially even the willingness to not sin to save yourself.   Which could be seen as what Alistair's doing.

Sorry, theatre student here.

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Lady Jess wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

Mel_Redux wrote...

Keep 'em coming LD! I especially love that you have her in GWC armor...it definitely looks the best on a female out of all the heavy armors. And Alistair in Cailan's armor?...ROWR!


Indeed!  My favorite outfits for them in Origins.  After Awakening, I can totally see them in the matching sets of armor, though when Lya wants to make a point, I think she dons Sentinel armor.



I read Sundered Order last night and ya know what, I think she would. Great story by the way, I love it and the one you keep calling terrible, it had me glued!

Well, thank you.  In all honestly, Lya might think of doing it, but she's a politcal enough animal to know it would be a bad idea.  Alistair would whole-heartedly approve, though.  ;)



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sleepingbelow wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

That right there is where I think most people end up disagreeing.  It is not a flaw in his personality.  It is part of who he is and he cannot deny it.  Hardened, unhardened, doesn't matter.  He is who he is, and when you put his back to a wall, he fights for who he is.  If Duncan had been there, if how the Grey Wardens really are had been explained to Alistair, this probably wouldn't have happened.  At this crucial moment, he shows he is not willing to give up everything about his morals and sense of justice to increase the odds a tiny bit.  It is up to the PC to decide whether this is a good or a bad thing.


I just got through calling it Alistair's tragic flaw in another thread but you make me want to back up and revise.  I think I would rather only refer to it as hamartia, which in tragedy is often translated as the "fatal flaw" or "mistake" that somebody makes causes everything to go to pot, for instance, Macbeth's ambition.  In reality, it is just the reason.  It is part of who he is, and in certain permutations of the story that can cause tragedy, it is not necessarily a "flaw."  In a class I had it described as potentially even the willingness to not sin to save yourself.   Which could be seen as what Alistair's doing.

Sorry, theatre student here.


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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Of course, I also put the Cousland crest for my warrior. Wouldn't expect any less from Lya :)
Looks cooler though if the vigilance is on fire.


I hate how the fire effect looks, so I never use it.  :/

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I'm enjoying Sundered Order too!! Have you updated it recently?

.....I guess by the time you respond, I could have just gone over there and checked for myself...lol


Thank you!  Sundered order is a M/W/F release, so there will be a new chapter tomorrow.  None of Friday, though, b/c I'm going on vacation.  Might post it on Saturday.  We'll see.  Broken Road, the other in progress story is a Tues/Sun/Thurs/Tues/etc.... release schedule.  It's what I'm working on right now.  *grumbles*

*dashes off to do errands*

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LadyDamodred wrote...
Well, thank you.  In all honestly, Lya might think of doing it, but she's a politcal enough animal to know it would be a bad idea.  Alistair would whole-heartedly approve, though.  ;)


I would agree with Lya.
Striking fear into enemy hearts is acceptable and doesn't need the sentinel armor (I can see Lya's glare being intimidating enough). Striking terror on the otherhand will end up creating more enemies in the long run.

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Geez you guys were busy while I slept! I saw mention of moonwings robes, and have to agree the whole set is gorgeous. I have a mage wearing it.



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As soon as I fix her hair (it looks greasy doesn't it?) I'll get a nice full view of it. Thought I wish I knew how you people get such noce full shots? Cuz I can only get good face ones.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...
Well, thank you.  In all honestly, Lya might think of doing it, but she's a politcal enough animal to know it would be a bad idea.  Alistair would whole-heartedly approve, though.  ;)


I would agree with Lya.
Striking fear into enemy hearts is acceptable and doesn't need the sentinel armor (I can see Lya's glare being intimidating enough). Striking terror on the otherhand will end up creating more enemies in the long run.


Yes, Lya's fearsome glare!  Ahhh, literary cheating right there.  ^_^  She knows it would be a bad idea, though when they appear in armor, she might choose that set to send a message depending on what the situation might be.

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LadyDamodred wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...
Well, thank you.  In all honestly, Lya might think of doing it, but she's a politcal enough animal to know it would be a bad idea.  Alistair would whole-heartedly approve, though.  ;)


I would agree with Lya.
Striking fear into enemy hearts is acceptable and doesn't need the sentinel armor (I can see Lya's glare being intimidating enough). Striking terror on the otherhand will end up creating more enemies in the long run.


Yes, Lya's fearsome glare!  Ahhh, literary cheating right there.  ^_^  She knows it would be a bad idea, though when they appear in armor, she might choose that set to send a message depending on what the situation might be.


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My guy only alternates between two outfits. "Civilian" and "military".

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sleepingbelow wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

That right there is where I think most people end up disagreeing.  It is not a flaw in his personality.  It is part of who he is and he cannot deny it.  Hardened, unhardened, doesn't matter.  He is who he is, and when you put his back to a wall, he fights for who he is.  If Duncan had been there, if how the Grey Wardens really are had been explained to Alistair, this probably wouldn't have happened.  At this crucial moment, he shows he is not willing to give up everything about his morals and sense of justice to increase the odds a tiny bit.  It is up to the PC to decide whether this is a good or a bad thing.


I just got through calling it Alistair's tragic flaw in another thread but you make me want to back up and revise.  I think I would rather only refer to it as hamartia, which in tragedy is often translated as the "fatal flaw" or "mistake" that somebody makes causes everything to go to pot, for instance, Macbeth's ambition.  In reality, it is just the reason.  It is part of who he is, and in certain permutations of the story that can cause tragedy, it is not necessarily a "flaw."  In a class I had it described as potentially even the willingness to not sin to save yourself.   Which could be seen as what Alistair's doing.

Sorry, theatre student here.


I'm okay with calling it a flaw so long as its understood in the vein that we all have flaws in our personality - none of us is perfect.  Its his flaw that his devotion to and idealism of the Grey Wardens in general and Duncan in particular is so great that it won't allow him to accept a politically expedient move that would also provide another Warden to fight the archdemon - and really, its a pretty understandable flaw.  I suspect many of our HNs carry it in regards to Howe.

A perfectly reasonable person would see all the benefits of Loghain going through the Joining.  But we are not all perfectly reasonable on all subjects - that happens to be Alistair's.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...
Well, thank you.  In all honestly, Lya might think of doing it, but she's a politcal enough animal to know it would be a bad idea.  Alistair would whole-heartedly approve, though.  ;)


I would agree with Lya.
Striking fear into enemy hearts is acceptable and doesn't need the sentinel armor (I can see Lya's glare being intimidating enough). Striking terror on the otherhand will end up creating more enemies in the long run.


Yes, Lya's fearsome glare!  Ahhh, literary cheating right there.  ^_^  She knows it would be a bad idea, though when they appear in armor, she might choose that set to send a message depending on what the situation might be.


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My guy only alternates between two outfits. "Civilian" and "military".


I should be running errands, but you've distracted me.  For KoP and Mel:
Awesome eyes!  (Note: I LOVE this char's eyes)
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Oh noes!  The glare!
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Not sure if I like with or without helmet better:
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She looks too cute with the helmet. Without the helmet is defiantely more intimidating. But to be perfectly honest, doesn't beat Morrigan lol

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I doubt very much anyone would beat Morrigan with you, KoP.

*dashes off for real-reals now*

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Man, I'm so jealous if all the screenies! At this point, I might start taking pics of my TV with my camera!

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