cmessaz wrote...
I have one more thing to add about Eamon. Why doesn't he say ANYTHING in Alistair's defense when Anora wants him executed? Not a damn thing. He cares about Alistair, but doesn't even object to his death?
cmessaz wrote...
The Teryn in the gauntlet is very sad for me. Just imagine if it were real. There needed to be a little party interaction at that point, I feel.sylvanaerie wrote...
I can't do it. Did it once already and don't care to repeat the experience. I don't like it when games depress me. Its bad enough I bawl like a baby at the emotional scenes already.
Bryce in the Gauntlet gets me so bad I can't even see my monitor. I have to stop playing a few minutes to clear the water from my eyes.
If I added bad things to Alistair in the mix I couldn't stand it.
And I guess I am back in the right mood to work on my FF again.
cmessaz wrote...
I have one more thing to add about Eamon. Why doesn't he say ANYTHING in Alistair's defense when Anora wants him executed? Not a damn thing. He cares about Alistair, but doesn't even object to his death?
Thor Rand Al wrote...
cmessaz wrote...
The Teryn in the gauntlet is very sad for me. Just imagine if it were real. There needed to be a little party interaction at that point, I feel.sylvanaerie wrote...
I can't do it. Did it once already and don't care to repeat the experience. I don't like it when games depress me. Its bad enough I bawl like a baby at the emotional scenes already.
Bryce in the Gauntlet gets me so bad I can't even see my monitor. I have to stop playing a few minutes to clear the water from my eyes.
If I added bad things to Alistair in the mix I couldn't stand it.
And I guess I am back in the right mood to work on my FF again.
Especially if your romancing someone, a soothing word or touch or something lol.
He doesn't? Well, that's... wow. His concern for the boy really shone through, didn't it? Or it could just have been an oversight on the developers' part. I hope it is.LadyDamodred wrote...
cmessaz wrote...
I have one more thing to add about Eamon. Why doesn't he say ANYTHING in Alistair's defense when Anora wants him executed? Not a damn thing. He cares about Alistair, but doesn't even object to his death?
THAT!
That is in my fanfic with the Alistair execution. Alistair is RAGED!
"I want to thank you, Eamon, for your impassioned defense of my life. I was quite touched."
Oh, I had my own share of tears during the Gauntlet as well. My Cousland girl was still grieving (albeit silently) at that point. When the Guardian asked my PC if she thought she failed her parents, she answered "Yes. I should have defended them to the death.", which was how I played her in her origin story. It opened up a dialogue option for when she encountered her father deeper inside:sylvanaerie wrote...
I can't do it. Did it once already and don't care to repeat the experience. I don't like it when games depress me. Its bad enough I bawl like a baby at the emotional scenes already.
Bryce in the Gauntlet gets me so bad I can't even see my monitor. I have to stop playing a few minutes to clear the water from my eyes.
If I added bad things to Alistair in the mix I couldn't stand it.
And I guess I am back in the right mood to work on my FF again.
:crying:
Honestly, it sort of seems like they ran out of time and money after the landsmeet. Cause yeah, the dialogue is really screwie after that point, and I agree. Some of your party members should be pissed at you for what you did to Alistair.Urshakk wrote...
cmessaz wrote...
I have one more thing to add about Eamon. Why doesn't he say ANYTHING in Alistair's defense when Anora wants him executed? Not a damn thing. He cares about Alistair, but doesn't even object to his death?
This is one of the thing that I've always wondered. Eamon is all like "last of the Therin bloodline!" "make him king" "he will be the one to lead us to victory in this fight" But if I choose to let Alistair get executed and spare Loghain he is just like "ok cool I'm obviously not watching this I'll pretend I'm not". Then when you talk to him at Redcliff "OMG why did you let Anora have throne (I still forgot about Alistair)" Blows my mind.
Not even just that, you're entire party doesn't say anything if you oft Alistair off and replace him with Loghain.
Morrigan: "So guys, it appears Alistair's appearance changed over night, I still don't like him though"
Like wtf, none of the companions realize Alistair is gone and replaced by the man you have been trying to get even with the entire game? I had a really hard time swallowing that.
Anyways sorry for the rant...
nranola wrote...
He doesn't? Well, that's... wow. His concern for the boy really shone through, didn't it? Or it could just have been an oversight on the developers' part. I hope it is.LadyDamodred wrote...
cmessaz wrote...
I have one more thing to add about Eamon. Why doesn't he say ANYTHING in Alistair's defense when Anora wants him executed? Not a damn thing. He cares about Alistair, but doesn't even object to his death?
THAT!
That is in my fanfic with the Alistair execution. Alistair is RAGED!
"I want to thank you, Eamon, for your impassioned defense of my life. I was quite touched."
Also, great line you used there Lady. x3Oh, I had my own share of tears during the Gauntlet as well. My Cousland girl was still grieving (albeit silently) at that point. When the Guardian asked my PC if she thought she failed her parents, she answered "Yes. I should have defended them to the death.", which was how I played her in her origin story. It opened up a dialogue option for when she encountered her father deeper inside:sylvanaerie wrote...
I can't do it. Did it once already and don't care to repeat the experience. I don't like it when games depress me. Its bad enough I bawl like a baby at the emotional scenes already.
Bryce in the Gauntlet gets me so bad I can't even see my monitor. I have to stop playing a few minutes to clear the water from my eyes.
If I added bad things to Alistair in the mix I couldn't stand it.
And I guess I am back in the right mood to work on my FF again.
Bryce: My dearest child...
PC: Why do you torment me with this vision?
Bryce: No torment of our devising could match that which you inflict on yourself.
Bryce: No more must you grieve, my girl. Take the pain and the guilt, acknowledge it, and let go. It is time.
And you know, I was half-expecting Alistair's response to the Guardian to be different for when he's hardened and unhardened. Turns out it wasn't.
cmessaz wrote...
Honestly, it sort of seems like they ran out of time and money after the landsmeet.
Cause yeah, the dialogue is really screwie after that point, and I agree. Some of your party members should be pissed at you for what you did to Alistair.
Modifié par zchen, 12 avril 2010 - 05:03 .
nranola wrote...
He doesn't? Well, that's... wow. His concern for the boy really shone through, didn't it? Or it could just have been an oversight on the developers' part. I hope it is.LadyDamodred wrote...
cmessaz wrote...
I have one more thing to add about Eamon. Why doesn't he say ANYTHING in Alistair's defense when Anora wants him executed? Not a damn thing. He cares about Alistair, but doesn't even object to his death?
THAT!
That is in my fanfic with the Alistair execution. Alistair is RAGED!
"I want to thank you, Eamon, for your impassioned defense of my life. I was quite touched."
Also, great line you used there Lady. x3Oh, I had my own share of tears during the Gauntlet as well. My Cousland girl was still grieving (albeit silently) at that point. When the Guardian asked my PC if she thought she failed her parents, she answered "Yes. I should have defended them to the death.", which was how I played her in her origin story. It opened up a dialogue option for when she encountered her father deeper inside:sylvanaerie wrote...
I can't do it. Did it once already and don't care to repeat the experience. I don't like it when games depress me. Its bad enough I bawl like a baby at the emotional scenes already.
Bryce in the Gauntlet gets me so bad I can't even see my monitor. I have to stop playing a few minutes to clear the water from my eyes.
If I added bad things to Alistair in the mix I couldn't stand it.
And I guess I am back in the right mood to work on my FF again.
Bryce: My dearest child...
PC: Why do you torment me with this vision?
Bryce: No torment of our devising could match that which you inflict on yourself.
Bryce: No more must you grieve, my girl. Take the pain and the guilt, acknowledge it, and let go. It is time.
And you know, I was half-expecting Alistair's response to the Guardian to be different for when he's hardened and unhardened. Turns out it wasn't.
Ooo, I read that bit in the toolset just now. Now I feel silly... this seems more IC for my Cousland girl. But the other one works too.sylvanaerie wrote...
Sometimes I refuse to answer the Guardian's question and they get options to say things like "Now I am really curious what you feel about it" or "One wonders why you won't answer a simple question when your refusal says so much more". Makes dialog with Bryce different too. Something about the Maker seeing the rage still in her heart she tries to hide and that its time to let go (I think) Its been a while since i did a playthrough with a HN. I think I will run another noble through next time.
She doesn't? I read something about Wynne leaving as well if you decide to spare Loghain, but maybe I misread...Urshakk wrote...
Especially Wynne, I mean come on, you know when you were thinking of that choice: "Oh man, Wynne is going to be pissed at me!" Considering how throughout your journey she takes time to "counsel" you, and Alistair thinks of her as a grandmother sort of figure, but convinently forgets all that at the Landsmeet.
I was almost certain when I went back to Camp Wynne was going to tear me a new one, and call me all sort of things along of the lines of: "You are not worthy to be a Grey Warden after all, you sacrifaced your best friend, and only other Grey Warden with you for a disgraced enemy. Shame on you!"
zchen wrote...
*not fangirl of Alistair here
But the whole pick Loghain Landsmeet part never felt right with me, for all the reasons above. I would've loved it if there's an alternate branch where Loghain dies from the joining, you get to chew Riordan out for the bad choice, and then Alistair swoops in during the march to Denerim to rejoin you.
nranola wrote...
She doesn't? I read something about Wynne leaving as well if you decide to spare Loghain, but maybe I misread...
Yeah that is very disappointing. Wynne says one thing for Alistiar. Again, must've ran out of money. We know Gaider didn't run out of ideas......sylvanaerie wrote...
Well come on these are the same companions who throw a F*ing party after Alistair is turned into dragon kibbles. And then all declare you the big cheese hero cause :"you killed the archdemon". That has to be the angriest I have ever gotten in a game. I literally wanted to toss my PC out the window.
NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER doing the Warden Commander ending again. Either my boy will get it on with the swamp witch or my FemWardens will all push Alistair in there with Morrigan and tell him to get busy cause ya got a long march the next morning.
nranola wrote...
Ooo, I read that bit in the toolset just now. Now I feel silly... this seems more IC for my Cousland girl. But the other one works too.sylvanaerie wrote...
Sometimes I refuse to answer the Guardian's question and they get options to say things like "Now I am really curious what you feel about it" or "One wonders why you won't answer a simple question when your refusal says so much more". Makes dialog with Bryce different too. Something about the Maker seeing the rage still in her heart she tries to hide and that its time to let go (I think) Its been a while since i did a playthrough with a HN. I think I will run another noble through next time.She doesn't? I read something about Wynne leaving as well if you decide to spare Loghain, but maybe I misread...Urshakk wrote...
Especially Wynne, I mean come on, you know when you were thinking of that choice: "Oh man, Wynne is going to be pissed at me!" Considering how throughout your journey she takes time to "counsel" you, and Alistair thinks of her as a grandmother sort of figure, but convinently forgets all that at the Landsmeet.
I was almost certain when I went back to Camp Wynne was going to tear me a new one, and call me all sort of things along of the lines of: "You are not worthy to be a Grey Warden after all, you sacrifaced your best friend, and only other Grey Warden with you for a disgraced enemy. Shame on you!"
zcehn wrote...
the lack of reaction from other companions and characters when Alistair leaves or is excuted were quite jarring and completely breaks all RPing and immersion for me.....
sylvanaerie wrote...
Sometimes I refuse to answer the Guardian's question and they get options to say things like "Now I am really curious what you feel about it" or "One wonders why you won't answer a simple question when your refusal says so much more". Makes dialog with Bryce different too. Something about the Maker seeing the rage still in her heart she tries to hide and that its time to let go (I think) Its been a while since i did a playthrough with a HN. I think I will run another noble through next time.
Yeah, it is sickening, isn't it? On my first playthrough Alistair died, and I was appalled that not a single one of them mention anything about it. Well, there's Wynne... sorta. But you'd have to prod her about it first. She says one line and then shrugs it off. =u=; He was the one who killed the blighted thing!LadyDamodred wrote...
And the ironic thing, is if you die, Alistair will note the people who loved you in your eulogy. You would think being your oldest companion he might get the slightest bit of reciprocity, but nooo!
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