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cmessaz

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LadyDamodred wrote...

Oh, I know! I can't ever stand to have an unhardened Alistair on any play through now. :/

@cmessaz: Are you gonna make him king?  I don't know how anyone can make an unhardened Alistair king if they're in loe with him.  If you're gonna run off into the sunset with him, though, that's cool.

Yes. He's not so mad if you marry him.

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cmessaz wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

Oh, I know! I can't ever stand to have an unhardened Alistair on any play through now. :/

@cmessaz: Are you gonna make him king?  I don't know how anyone can make an unhardened Alistair king if they're in loe with him.  If you're gonna run off into the sunset with him, though, that's cool.

Yes. He's not so mad if you marry him.


Eh...  :/  He's still much happier about it if he's hardened.  And look at the ending slide.  I just can't do that to Alistair AND Ferelden.  And I think it would upset my character.  :(

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So, unfortunately my theories on the toolset aren't panning out. So I am going to do a system restore to see if I can just get back to where I was, though it doesn't seem likely that will work. If not, I think I'm screwed, I can't think of anything that I haven't tried yet. I don't want to scrap the mod, but I may not have a choice.

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LadyDamodred wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

Oh, I know! I can't ever stand to have an unhardened Alistair on any play through now. :/

@cmessaz: Are you gonna make him king?  I don't know how anyone can make an unhardened Alistair king if they're in loe with him.  If you're gonna run off into the sunset with him, though, that's cool.

Yes. He's not so mad if you marry him.


Eh...  :/  He's still much happier about it if he's hardened.  And look at the ending slide.  I just can't do that to Alistair AND Ferelden.  And I think it would upset my character.  :(


What does the unhardened Alistair king slide say? I've never made unhardened Alistair king (nor would I really want to, tbh).

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cmessaz wrote...

So, unfortunately my theories on the toolset aren't panning out. So I am going to do a system restore to see if I can just get back to where I was, though it doesn't seem likely that will work. If not, I think I'm screwed, I can't think of anything that I haven't tried yet. I don't want to scrap the mod, but I may not have a choice.


:o  Oh, I hope it works, cmessaz!  *crosses fingers*

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LadyDamodred wrote...
lol.  Cheater!  You can totally rp it, but it helps if you've done Redcliffe and Sacred Ashes first.  That wasy your char gets to see how Alistair reacts to different people trying to use him for stuff.



I wish that the hardening was tied into Eamon putting him forward as the heir. The way he takes what you say to him, about needing to stand up for himself, fits better with that scenario than it does with the Goldanna situation (since Goldanna's is more of a WTF? sort of thing, while Eamon outright manipulates him into taking a huge risk that he is distinctly uncomfortable with taking).

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cmessaz wrote...

So, unfortunately my theories on the toolset aren't panning out. So I am going to do a system restore to see if I can just get back to where I was, though it doesn't seem likely that will work. If not, I think I'm screwed, I can't think of anything that I haven't tried yet. I don't want to scrap the mod, but I may not have a choice.


Let me give you this Posted Image
It will definately solve all your problems.

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yukidama wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

Oh, I know! I can't ever stand to have an unhardened Alistair on any play through now. :/

@cmessaz: Are you gonna make him king?  I don't know how anyone can make an unhardened Alistair king if they're in loe with him.  If you're gonna run off into the sunset with him, though, that's cool.

Yes. He's not so mad if you marry him.


Eh...  :/  He's still much happier about it if he's hardened.  And look at the ending slide.  I just can't do that to Alistair AND Ferelden.  And I think it would upset my character.  :(


What does the unhardened Alistair king slide say? I've never made unhardened Alistair king (nor would I really want to, tbh).

Basically Eamon gets what he wants. More power. Alistair isn't interested in ruling, but people like him.

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What does the unhardened Alistair king slide say? I've never made unhardened Alistair king (nor would I really want to, tbh).


He's popular with the people but  travels a lot to avoid court and lets his chancellor do all the work.

If you want lots of power, become unhardened Alistair's Chancellor. You're pretty much in control.

Modifié par SurelyForth, 20 avril 2010 - 07:03 .


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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

So, unfortunately my theories on the toolset aren't panning out. So I am going to do a system restore to see if I can just get back to where I was, though it doesn't seem likely that will work. If not, I think I'm screwed, I can't think of anything that I haven't tried yet. I don't want to scrap the mod, but I may not have a choice.


Let me give you this Posted Image
It will definately solve all your problems.

Thanks, though my toolset still isn't saving. Posted Image

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yukidama wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

Oh, I know! I can't ever stand to have an unhardened Alistair on any play through now. :/

@cmessaz: Are you gonna make him king?  I don't know how anyone can make an unhardened Alistair king if they're in loe with him.  If you're gonna run off into the sunset with him, though, that's cool.

Yes. He's not so mad if you marry him.


Eh...  :/  He's still much happier about it if he's hardened.  And look at the ending slide.  I just can't do that to Alistair AND Ferelden.  And I think it would upset my character.  :(


What does the unhardened Alistair king slide say? I've never made unhardened Alistair king (nor would I really want to, tbh).


Basically, that while he was popular with the people, he showed little interest in learning to rule, and spent a lot of time away from court, though the people didn't know it was attempting to escape what he hates.

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cmessaz wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

So, unfortunately my theories on the toolset aren't panning out. So I am going to do a system restore to see if I can just get back to where I was, though it doesn't seem likely that will work. If not, I think I'm screwed, I can't think of anything that I haven't tried yet. I don't want to scrap the mod, but I may not have a choice.


Let me give you this Posted Image
It will definately solve all your problems.

Thanks, though my toolset still isn't saving. Posted Image


Hmmm, weird. Well let me give this to your toolset then Posted Image
It must work now.

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LD!  That picture!  Oh my!! Posted Image

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LadyDamodred wrote...

yukidama wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

Oh, I know! I can't ever stand to have an unhardened Alistair on any play through now. :/

@cmessaz: Are you gonna make him king?  I don't know how anyone can make an unhardened Alistair king if they're in loe with him.  If you're gonna run off into the sunset with him, though, that's cool.

Yes. He's not so mad if you marry him.


Eh...  :/  He's still much happier about it if he's hardened.  And look at the ending slide.  I just can't do that to Alistair AND Ferelden.  And I think it would upset my character.  :(


What does the unhardened Alistair king slide say? I've never made unhardened Alistair king (nor would I really want to, tbh).


Basically, that while he was popular with the people, he showed little interest in learning to rule, and spent a lot of time away from court, though the people didn't know it was attempting to escape what he hates.


Awww even if you Marry him?

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cmessaz wrote...

So, unfortunately my theories on the toolset aren't panning out. So I am going to do a system restore to see if I can just get back to where I was, though it doesn't seem likely that will work. If not, I think I'm screwed, I can't think of anything that I haven't tried yet. I don't want to scrap the mod, but I may not have a choice.

Does it mean it can't save Alistair's dialog even when it's completely fresh install with nothing but default database? I mean if you just do the default install, check out his dialogue and try to save it, it still flips out? Posted Image

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Lady Jess wrote...
Awww even if you Marry him?


Yes.  (._.)

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LD!  That picture!  Oh my!! Posted Image


Oh, just you wait.  I have just created the most awesome screenshot ever.  One sec.

#6242
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Maybe I'll harden him. I just like things to be different each playthrough. I won't harden him with my elf mage.

I really need to upload this head morph. Just to see how many people would download it.

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Lady Jess wrote...

Awww even if you Marry him?


Yes. Marrying the PC has no bearing on how he rules.

Posted Image'd!

Modifié par SurelyForth, 20 avril 2010 - 07:12 .


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*giggles*

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tmp7704 wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

So, unfortunately my theories on the toolset aren't panning out. So I am going to do a system restore to see if I can just get back to where I was, though it doesn't seem likely that will work. If not, I think I'm screwed, I can't think of anything that I haven't tried yet. I don't want to scrap the mod, but I may not have a choice.

Does it mean it can't save Alistair's dialog even when it's completely fresh install with nothing but default database? I mean if you just do the default install, check out his dialogue and try to save it, it still flips out? Posted Image

Thats right. I cannot figure this out. Of course you have to change something to even be able to save it.  Says to see error log.

Modifié par cmessaz, 20 avril 2010 - 07:13 .


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What is Alistair doing with a pot near his area?

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cmessaz wrote...

Thats right. I cannot figure this out. Of course you have to change something to even be able to save it.

That's.. bizzare. I wonder now if uninstalling the SQL thing actually removes the database too, or if it stays behind and messes things up for the re-install...

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Well, that's disappointing. Definitely never making unhardened Alistair king. :\\\\ Not that I really had any intention of doing so, unless my character marries him and/or stays on as chancellor and is going for a puppet king route.

Modifié par yukidama, 20 avril 2010 - 07:15 .


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SurelyForth wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

Awww even if you Marry him?


Yes. Marrying the PC has no bearing on how he rules.


Well pshhh that settles it. As for actually saying the words, I think it fits every origin to say that line to him. I find it easy to say as a noble, because that's something your parents would have taught you, plus the whole Howe attack. But every other origin pretty clearly learns that lesson, most times the hard way. And it's fresh enough in their minds to be jaded enough to tell Alistair that. Look at it as the mercigul thing to do.

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cmessaz wrote...

Thats right. I cannot figure this out. Of course you have to change something to even be able to save it.

That's.. bizzare. I wonder now if uninstalling the SQL thing actually removes the database too, or if it stays behind and messes things up for the re-install...

I tried removing MySQL seperately, and that didn't work. I discovered that something was still using it in my system processes, so I ended that, then uninstalled again. Didn't work. I am really out of options, here. There must be something corrupted somewhere. *sad that her database management and programming class was cancelled so I don't know enough*

Modifié par cmessaz, 20 avril 2010 - 07:17 .