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[Sandtigress]

That's a lovely picture......Alistair, what do I need to do to cheer you up???

[Addai]

Sandtigress wrote...

BTW, he'll say the same thing to an HNF that is marrying him. You just have to wait to use that line until after the Landsmeet. I sexy determined Alistair!

Oh good, thanks for confirming that.  I'm terrible with self-restraint so I had never waited to ask that post-LM before.  It makes more sense as a mistress, though.

[Addai]

Sandtigress wrote...

That's a lovely picture......Alistair, what do I need to do to cheer you up???

tmp's elven tent scene fits perfectly here, yet again.    He is so getting some that night.  LOL

[Raiil]

yukidama wrote...

Juneya wrote...

Reguarding something that actually made me do a second romance playthrough with alistair (probably for my own good, seeing as I've romanced leliana and zevran about 2-3 times each... wow. I need to get a life. *cough*)...


He is amazingly fun to banter with... it really caught me off guard. I was never too fond of the romance with him because it seemed so stereotypical to me, but he takes the most relentless teasing quite well--better than what I expected out of the personality I came to expect of Alistair my first playthrough.

Such as... "You grew up in the chantry... have you ever?"
"Ever what?"
"Sex?" His reply is pretty amusing--I honestly think he'd been sitting on that 'one-eyed basalisk' and 'lamppost' joke for a while.

And then when he's talking about being raised by dogs and you make fun of his body odor and breath--and he takes it in stride. That was a pleasant surprise too. What surprised me even more was when in that conversation, he asks about the PC's dreams, I replied, "only ones where I'm strangling you." And... +approval! It's just interesting--I really never expected him to have a snarkier sense of humor.

Anyway. That's my two-cents for the evening. Night all.

Haha, I think most people avoid jokey or not overly polite conversation options with him thinking he is going to respond negatively. His funniest moments are if you poke fun at him or go along with his jokes. Many people don't pick those lines because they think he'll get offended since he is percieved to be so whiny/sad/whatever and they miss out on a lot IMO.

His sense of humour is how I actually started liking him as a character. I went into the game blind, not knowing people were romancable. Unfortunately for most characters, I tend to be rather trolltastic or sarcastic and I was like hey! Someone who's the same! Yes, snark buddies FTW.


Then he kissed me and it was very QTF. But hey, it's nice having someone who isn't all that sensitive. I get sort of confused when people act like he's such a twelve year old emo kid- he tends to roll with the punches unless you're talking about something extremely important to him, which is... how all the other characters act. Some more so- yes Wynne, I'm looking at you and your crappy response to my request for griffons in my stories. It got to the point where I was so pissed off at most of the companions that I did a mage run through with only Shale, Dog, and Alistair in my party- everyone else got killed off or dismissed.

[Sandtigress]

Addai67 wrote...

Sandtigress wrote...

BTW, he'll say the same thing to an HNF that is marrying him. You just have to wait to use that line until after the Landsmeet. I sexy determined Alistair!

Oh good, thanks for confirming that.  I'm terrible with self-restraint so I had never waited to ask that post-LM before.  It makes more sense as a mistress, though.

It does - I didn't think it fit all that well for my future queen HNF.

I only managed to hold off because she was very conflicted about the romance - she didn't want to be a Warden and clung to her duty as a noble to rebuild the Cousland line, and she didn't find out that Alistair was a prince until after two story-line quests.  By that time, Wynne had convinced her that being a Warden wasn't so bad, and she considered herself a landless Warden who wasn't worthy for the future King.  :-P

The two of them only got their act together at Goldanna's, just previous to the Landsmeet!

[Lady Jess]

Valentia X wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Juneya wrote...

Reguarding something that actually made me do a second romance playthrough with alistair (probably for my own good, seeing as I've romanced leliana and zevran about 2-3 times each... wow. I need to get a life. *cough*)...


He is amazingly fun to banter with... it really caught me off guard. I was never too fond of the romance with him because it seemed so stereotypical to me, but he takes the most relentless teasing quite well--better than what I expected out of the personality I came to expect of Alistair my first playthrough.

Such as... "You grew up in the chantry... have you ever?"
"Ever what?"
"Sex?" His reply is pretty amusing--I honestly think he'd been sitting on that 'one-eyed basalisk' and 'lamppost' joke for a while.

And then when he's talking about being raised by dogs and you make fun of his body odor and breath--and he takes it in stride. That was a pleasant surprise too. What surprised me even more was when in that conversation, he asks about the PC's dreams, I replied, "only ones where I'm strangling you." And... +approval! It's just interesting--I really never expected him to have a snarkier sense of humor.

Anyway. That's my two-cents for the evening. Night all.

Haha, I think most people avoid jokey or not overly polite conversation options with him thinking he is going to respond negatively. His funniest moments are if you poke fun at him or go along with his jokes. Many people don't pick those lines because they think he'll get offended since he is percieved to be so whiny/sad/whatever and they miss out on a lot IMO.

His sense of humour is how I actually started liking him as a character. I went into the game blind, not knowing people were romancable. Unfortunately for most characters, I tend to be rather trolltastic or sarcastic and I was like hey! Someone who's the same! Yes, snark buddies FTW.


Then he kissed me and it was very QTF. But hey, it's nice having someone who isn't all that sensitive. I get sort of confused when people act like he's such a twelve year old emo kid- he tends to roll with the punches unless you're talking about something extremely important to him, which is... how all the other characters act. Some more so- yes Wynne, I'm looking at you and your crappy response to my request for griffons in my stories. It got to the point where I was so pissed off at most of the companions that I did a mage run through with only Shale, Dog, and Alistair in my party- everyone else got killed off or dismissed.

I kind of want to do the whole thing with JUST Alistair and my dog, leave the rest at camp.

[mellifera]

Lady Jess wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...
Awwww!! Ya know, Awakening (IF it wasn't backwards scripted epilogue slides), plus this...makes me think the mistresses are going to have it better than the Queens.

Why'd you think that? Just curious.

A combination of my queens epilogue slides comared with the mistress and warden endings...she went off all alone...

Isn't it the same epilogue slide in Origins for mistress and queen (they dropped the ball on that one, seriously)

As for Awakening.... yeah. I still don't know what to make of that, since it seems very unlikely the queen or king would just up and leave without anyone really caring beyond "Durrr they're continuing their adventures~~~ We're sure it's not the last we'll hear of them!11" Of course this is a  non-issue for the Wardens riding off into the sunset endings >

[Addai]

Valentia X wrote...
I get sort of confused when people act like he's such a twelve year old emo kid- he tends to roll with the punches unless you're talking about something extremely important to him, which is... how all the other characters act.

And how... normal human beings act?  I agree, the commentary about Alistair is very confusing.  I'm not sure if I'd want to meet those people IRL.  Then again, I'm sure they're normal people and very nice etc., they just have scripted expectations of what a male lead should be like, and once they get an image of the character in their head, that's all they see.

[Addai]

yukidama wrote...

Isn't it the same epilogue slide in Origins for mistress and queen (they dropped the ball on that one, seriously)

No, not in my experience.  HNF got a slide that said he was called away to Weisshaupt and hoped to soon be by her side.  DEF got one that said that after a time he came to be with her and never left her side.  She had said she was going to rebuild the Grey Wardens, though, so I'm not sure about a mistress who remains as chancellor.  I will probably do that on this DEF run so I'll check it.

[Addai]

Lady Jess wrote...

I kind of want to do the whole thing with JUST Alistair and my dog, leave the rest at camp.

It is tempting.    DEF could do it, especially since with a ranger pet, it's like a 2nd dog if you set up the tactics every time.  A wolf and a mabari both running Dread Howl and Overwhelm--> pack 'er up and let's go have a beer.

[Raiil]

Lady Jess wrote...

Valentia X wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Juneya wrote...

Reguarding something that actually made me do a second romance playthrough with alistair (probably for my own good, seeing as I've romanced leliana and zevran about 2-3 times each... wow. I need to get a life. *cough*)...


He is amazingly fun to banter with... it really caught me off guard. I was never too fond of the romance with him because it seemed so stereotypical to me, but he takes the most relentless teasing quite well--better than what I expected out of the personality I came to expect of Alistair my first playthrough.

Such as... "You grew up in the chantry... have you ever?"
"Ever what?"
"Sex?" His reply is pretty amusing--I honestly think he'd been sitting on that 'one-eyed basalisk' and 'lamppost' joke for a while.

And then when he's talking about being raised by dogs and you make fun of his body odor and breath--and he takes it in stride. That was a pleasant surprise too. What surprised me even more was when in that conversation, he asks about the PC's dreams, I replied, "only ones where I'm strangling you." And... +approval! It's just interesting--I really never expected him to have a snarkier sense of humor.

Anyway. That's my two-cents for the evening. Night all.

Haha, I think most people avoid jokey or not overly polite conversation options with him thinking he is going to respond negatively. His funniest moments are if you poke fun at him or go along with his jokes. Many people don't pick those lines because they think he'll get offended since he is percieved to be so whiny/sad/whatever and they miss out on a lot IMO.

His sense of humour is how I actually started liking him as a character. I went into the game blind, not knowing people were romancable. Unfortunately for most characters, I tend to be rather trolltastic or sarcastic and I was like hey! Someone who's the same! Yes, snark buddies FTW.


Then he kissed me and it was very QTF. But hey, it's nice having someone who isn't all that sensitive. I get sort of confused when people act like he's such a twelve year old emo kid- he tends to roll with the punches unless you're talking about something extremely important to him, which is... how all the other characters act. Some more so- yes Wynne, I'm looking at you and your crappy response to my request for griffons in my stories. It got to the point where I was so pissed off at most of the companions that I did a mage run through with only Shale, Dog, and Alistair in my party- everyone else got killed off or dismissed.

I kind of want to do the whole thing with JUST Alistair and my dog, leave the rest at camp.

It's a lot of fun. I wanted to try crippling myself in a playthrough, and since I was already annoyed with most of my companions- Leliana was refused, Sten I ignored, Morrigan I sent away after killing Flemeth, Wynne I killed, Oghren I dismissed, and Zevran was killed on the spot. Having no rogues in the party, and no back-up mages, made the game interesting. I'd suggest to anyone. I did a similar thing later on, except that I was a rogue so I played an entire game with no mages. It was surprisingly fun.

[mellifera]

Addai67 wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Isn't it the same epilogue slide in Origins for mistress and queen (they dropped the ball on that one, seriously)

No, not in my experience.  HNF got a slide that said he was called away to Weisshaupt and hoped to soon be by her side.  DEF got one that said that after a time he came to be with her and never left her side.  She had said she was going to rebuild the Grey Wardens, though, so I'm not sure about a mistress who remains as chancellor.  I will probably do that on this DEF run so I'll check it.

Oh, my lone mistress character stayed on as chancellor (lol, my first run through that I rushed so I didn't know I could be queen as an HNF) so that is probably it the reason why. It gives you the speshal ~Anora was uncomfortable~ slide, which is especially hilarious since I always get her deposed. That slide is probably conditional to your staying in Denerim.

Modifié par yukidama, 24 avril 2010 - 06:20 .

[Addai]

Sandtigress wrote...

The two of them only got their act together at Goldanna's, just previous to the Landsmeet!

Aw, well that's a nice surprise for him after meeting his Medusa of a sister.

My HNF also didn't decide until late that she was going to marry him.  She was ready to give him up for the kingdom, but changed her mind based on a mixture of political considerations (overhearing the nobles talking and realizing that his bid was failing) and mostly on getting her socks knocked off by him at the Landsmeet.

[Lady Jess]

From the toolset it looks like there are some pretty sweet lines if you marry him to Anora, and remain his mistress. My elf mage obviously can't marry him, but he is clearly devoted to his LI. Anora+Alistair make a good ruling pair, and I could get some long awaited "in your face WITCH!" revenge on her. Of course with a conveniently placed save in case I chicken out.

[mellifera]

Lady Jess wrote...

From the toolset it looks like there are some pretty sweet lines if you marry him to Anora, and remain his mistress. My elf mage obviously can't marry him, but he is clearly devoted to his LI. Anora+Alistair make a good ruling pair, and I could get some long awaited "in your face WITCH!" revenge on her. Of course with a conveniently placed save in case I chicken out.

Well, just don't stay on as chancellor. It ends up being that Alistair and Anora are liek totally kewliez awesome rulers and that your role is largely irrelevant though you stay in court for a time or whatever. I was just all "Errrrm, that never happened." It was only a test run though, so it got happily deleted and I reverted back to my normal save.

[Lady Jess]

yukidama wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

From the toolset it looks like there are some pretty sweet lines if you marry him to Anora, and remain his mistress. My elf mage obviously can't marry him, but he is clearly devoted to his LI. Anora+Alistair make a good ruling pair, and I could get some long awaited "in your face WITCH!" revenge on her. Of course with a conveniently placed save in case I chicken out.

Well, just don't stay on as chancellor. It ends up being that Alistair and Anora are liek totally kewliez awesome rulers and that your role is largely irrelevant though you stay in court for a time or whatever. I was just all "Errrrm, that never happened." It was only a test run though, so it got happily deleted and I reverted back to my normal save.

Ewww maybe not then! I can't find Anora's lines in the toolset anyhow, Blah...mistress/king/witch in the tower it is...lol

[mellifera]

Lady Jess wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

From the toolset it looks like there are some pretty sweet lines if you marry him to Anora, and remain his mistress. My elf mage obviously can't marry him, but he is clearly devoted to his LI. Anora+Alistair make a good ruling pair, and I could get some long awaited "in your face WITCH!" revenge on her. Of course with a conveniently placed save in case I chicken out.

Well, just don't stay on as chancellor. It ends up being that Alistair and Anora are liek totally kewliez awesome rulers and that your role is largely irrelevant though you stay in court for a time or whatever. I was just all "Errrrm, that never happened." It was only a test run though, so it got happily deleted and I reverted back to my normal save.

Ewww maybe not then! I can't find Anora's lines in the toolset anyhow, Blah...mistress/king/witch in the tower it is...lol

She asks you about Alistair and his jokes which she finds annoying and according to the VO she thinks he's a "weirdo". Then she says he reminds her of Cailan (VO: shrug, a bit of affection in her voice when she speaks of Cailan).

[Bootsykk]

yukidama wrote...

Juneya wrote...

Reguarding something that actually made me do a second romance playthrough with alistair (probably for my own good, seeing as I've romanced leliana and zevran about 2-3 times each... wow. I need to get a life. *cough*)...


He is amazingly fun to banter with... it really caught me off guard. I was never too fond of the romance with him because it seemed so stereotypical to me, but he takes the most relentless teasing quite well--better than what I expected out of the personality I came to expect of Alistair my first playthrough.

Such as... "You grew up in the chantry... have you ever?"
"Ever what?"
"Sex?" His reply is pretty amusing--I honestly think he'd been sitting on that 'one-eyed basalisk' and 'lamppost' joke for a while.

And then when he's talking about being raised by dogs and you make fun of his body odor and breath--and he takes it in stride. That was a pleasant surprise too. What surprised me even more was when in that conversation, he asks about the PC's dreams, I replied, "only ones where I'm strangling you." And... +approval! It's just interesting--I really never expected him to have a snarkier sense of humor.

Anyway. That's my two-cents for the evening. Night all.

Haha, I think most people avoid jokey or not overly polite conversation options with him thinking he is going to respond negatively. His funniest moments are if you poke fun at him or go along with his jokes. Many people don't pick those lines because they think he'll get offended since he is percieved to be so whiny/sad/whatever and they miss out on a lot IMO.

Agreed--I would usually play along, but I really didn't expect him to take full out teasing so lightly. Another example: "Oh, I see, so you lack the proper parts." to which he just laughs off. I suppose it just surprised me seeing how negatively he responds to Morrigan's teasing.

[Addai]

Ok, o/t but since we were discussing it earlier... it did work to un-install Wings of Velvet and GW Runic Armor, make a game save on a new character, and then re-install it. Didn't work for the Shadow Warden Armor, though. That's going to make me sad if I make another rogue. I do like the new GW Runic shields and stuff, though.

[Addai]

yukidama wrote...
She asks you about Alistair and his jokes which she finds annoying and according to the VO she thinks he's a "weirdo". Then she says he reminds her of Cailan (VO: shrug, a bit of affection in her voice when she speaks of Cailan).

Yeah, that marriage is going to go well. 

I had Ali duel Loghain, so no Eyelashes for him.  It's better that way.  Anora can go sulk in the Tower if that's what she wants to do.

And she could have had this, at least on paper.  Silly cow.




BTW, on a different thread I saw this from the toolset:  "Anora: Ignoring that the man looks so much like Cailan--my
recently-dead husband, if you'll recall--my main fear is that he might
govern like Cailan as well. (terse disapproval -- she wasn't all that fond of Cailan and is not fond at the thought of marrying a man just like him)".  I thought that was interesting because it shows she didn't even think much of Cailan.  It seems the only people she does think highly of are herself and her father, just like Ali says.

For those of you have access to the toolset, I'd be interested to see other VO notes on that conversation between the Warden prospective mistress and Anora.  For instance, is there any indication of what she's thinking when she says "am I to have another husband whose eyes are elsewhere?"

Modifié par Addai67, 24 avril 2010 - 07:20 .

[mellifera]

I named the dog Cailan. It is amusing when Cailan brings me cakes and dirty pantaloons.



Yeah, I don't think that marriage will go to well. In the ending cinematic they both walk up to the stairs to throne for the coronation. Alistair reaches out and grabs Anora's hand and she pulls it away. It works out well politically though, I suppose.

[Thor Rand Al]

I appologize in advance for a bunch of Alistair pics, but I haven't done my fair share of contributing lately so it may seem a little overkill here lmao



Where getting ready for take off, such perfect form





And up we go






That's the way to sink that blade Alistair








He's kind of gazing off into the air




Now I see the bonuses to more than one dual wielder.  I call this the dual-wield trio lol




I finally got that first tent scene kiss.  Without his arms going weird lol. 

[nos_astra]

Thor Rand Al wrote...

Where getting ready for take off, such perfect form





And up we go

These pics are awesome.

[sylvanaerie]

Addai67 wrote...

Ok, o/t but since we were discussing it earlier... it did work to un-install Wings of Velvet and GW Runic Armor, make a game save on a new character, and then re-install it. Didn't work for the Shadow Warden Armor, though. That's going to make me sad if I make another rogue. I do like the new GW Runic shields and stuff, though.

I'm sorry it didn't work for you Addai It does for me (at least so far).  I've had Ali in shadow warden now for a bit on my current run through though I am about to pick up the WC armor and then will be picking up zev soon and he will be wearing them then.  Its working out well but he looks so strange in leathers.  It looks good with his coloring but so odd...

Okay with IA I am finding a difference in the items I am finding, (better stats).  So even if graphics may be the same (I have mine at med in game I think) there are differences I am finding. Thanks folks for all your help last night!

Modifié par sylvanaerie, 24 avril 2010 - 11:39 .

[tmp7704]

Valentia X wrote...

Some more so- yes Wynne, I'm looking at you and your crappy response to my request for griffons in my stories.

I wonder if there's anyone who could actually resist giving Wynne crap about the griffons

edit: top of page, blah i'll need to take some screenshots. For now this will have to do

Modifié par tmp7704, 24 avril 2010 - 12:22 .