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Alistair, post-coronation... and/or Alistair gush thread (Origins/Awakening Spoilers)


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sylvanaerie wrote...

He does? I just conscripted Nate cause I didn't want to let him go (he's the only rogue at that point and I was intrigued by him).  He had me at that line where he said he was going to kill the PC and then changed his mind and just wanted his family things back.  Getting him his grandfather's bow was the most touching moment in the game for me.

It's far better to release Nate because he's sincere in wanting to join. Just FYI, if you do NOT loot the chest with his belongings in jail and proceed to decide his fate, you get an extra dialogue tree when you release him. Nothing mindblowing, but it should tickle the RP-heartstrings to be able to say things like, "He's not his father, let him go."

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I think Awakening did a decent job of letting you recruit people who really didn't have many options.

Agreed, and it makes a difference.  This is the bitterness that I feel is probably dormant (or not so dormant in HNF's case) in my Cousland characters about having been drafted into the Wardens.  If Duncan had just let her be, she would have gladly fought to end the Blight, even died gladly.  But then she would have wanted to go back to being a Cousland, especially since there are almost none of those left.  Maybe it's the fact that infertility cuts so close for a woman.  She not only had other options to becoming a Warden, she had really good options.  The only way she can bring herself to forgive Duncan is to consider that the Maker's hand was in what he did.  And because Alistair really wants her to forgive him.

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klarabella wrote...

Let's say it is still somehow in character for AMWT-Alistair, who is a convincing derivative of the original (hardened and exiled) Alistair. Never thought about if it was in character for Anders to do that, I hope it is.
I loved his line about the dirty little secret of rejuvenation spells. :blush:


I wrote something before I read that and remember thinking "Rejuvenation spells! Of course. Damn them for being far more creative than me!"

Now let me wander off and imagine the fun that could be had if that's in character for Anders.

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Don't worry, it's just a funny/sexy one-shot that is based on the AMWT universe. It's not party of the story.

Oh, I meant A Midwinter's Thaw proper.  I'm sure it's well written, I just... I don't know.  I can't read fanfiction.  I guess it's because in playing the game, you imagine your own vision of the characters, and it's an unpleasant stretch to see them bent a different way, even if they're not bent in perverse ways as often happens.

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Addai67 wrote...

klarabella wrote...
Don't worry, it's just a funny/sexy one-shot that is based on the AMWT universe. It's not party of the story.

Oh, I meant A Midwinter's Thaw proper.  I'm sure it's well written, I just... I don't know.  I can't read fanfiction.  I guess it's because in playing the game, you imagine your own vision of the characters, and it's an unpleasant stretch to see them bent a different way, even if they're not bent in perverse ways as often happens.


THIS yes is why I get freaked out by OOC Fanfics (or even AU).  You have an idea of how someone should act and when they go completely off the deep end I'm like...ummm Posted Image WTF??  All you end up having is characters who share the same name, look the same but act NOTHING like themselves.  What's the point of that?  Its not enjoyable for me to read stuff like that. 

Working on a Teagan/PC fanfic now and trying to keep it in the bounds of characterization having them stay friends.  Its hard but dang its doable. 

I finished my PC Cousland journey to Ostagar fanfic but I don't know how to post it and am kind of shy about it anyway.  It's Cousland and Duncan (No not romantic) and tried to keep him as close to characterization as I could.

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sylvanaerie wrote...

Working on a Teagan/PC fanfic now and trying to keep it in the bounds of characterization having them stay friends.  Its hard but dang its doable. 

I finished my PC Cousland journey to Ostagar fanfic but I don't know how to post it and am kind of shy about it anyway.  It's Cousland and Duncan (No not romantic) and tried to keep him as close to characterization as I could.


The Community Creations section is a pretty good place to post stuff, and most of the people who read and comment are very nice about it.

If you post it there, I promise I will make time to read it!

Your other basic option is fanfiction.net but registering there requires a two-day wait period before you can post.

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SurelyForth wrote...

I wrote something before I read that and remember thinking "Rejuvenation spells! Of course. Damn them for being far more creative than me!"

Now let me wander off and imagine the fun that could be had if that's in character for Anders.

I'm not sure exactly what this reference is, but I've always imagined that my mage PCs could add a little spice to things.  You know, skin-warming or skin-cooling, that sort of thing...  Posted Image  Oh, where the mind goes.

Edit re. fanfiction... I didn't even like some of the story elements in Return to Ostagar because it seemed like a different writer had taken over the reins.  There are some obvious, in my opinion, OOC things, but even the feel is different.

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I'm not sure exactly what this reference is, but I've always imagined that my mage PCs could add a little spice to things.  You know, skin-warming or skin-cooling, that sort of thing...  Posted Image  Oh, where the mind goes.


It's a reference to my own stupid story, which involves Anders a bit. I have also always imagined that mages can bring something extra to the tent, depending on what their focus is (*imagines two mages going at it and one accidentally Mana Clashes the other* Posted Image) but I realized when I read that A/A/PC fic that I was way underestimating a mage's potential bag of tricks. So to speak.

Modifié par SurelyForth, 30 avril 2010 - 06:07 .


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Sandtigress wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

Working on a Teagan/PC fanfic now and trying to keep it in the bounds of characterization having them stay friends.  Its hard but dang its doable. 

I finished my PC Cousland journey to Ostagar fanfic but I don't know how to post it and am kind of shy about it anyway.  It's Cousland and Duncan (No not romantic) and tried to keep him as close to characterization as I could.


The Community Creations section is a pretty good place to post stuff, and most of the people who read and comment are very nice about it.

If you post it there, I promise I will make time to read it!

Your other basic option is fanfiction.net but registering there requires a two-day wait period before you can post.


It does? it didn't make me wait. Oh wait never mind I registered there to get alerts for other things I was reading. I didn't post there til after I'd posted here. Yes, the CC section is very kind. I just can't keep up with finding my post to edit it. So I use FF for it now. Trying to keep the others in character, and give them lines is really hard, but I hope I do alright. I've played through enough times...lol

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Well its 19 document pages long...is it possible to post something that long on the CC boards? or would I have to divide it up? How long can messages be on the boards before they exceed maximum words allowed?

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SurelyForth wrote...

It's a reference to my own stupid story, which involves Anders a bit. I have also always imagined that mages can bring something extra to the tent, depending on what their focus is (*imagines two mages going at it and one accidentally Mana Clashes the other* Posted Image) but I realized when I read that A/A/PC fic that I was way underestimating a mage's potential bag of tricks. So to speak.

Part of what the devs were thinking with Teagan's "brave man" lines?

#10812
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Addai67 wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

It's a reference to my own stupid story, which involves Anders a bit. I have also always imagined that mages can bring something extra to the tent, depending on what their focus is (*imagines two mages going at it and one accidentally Mana Clashes the other* Posted Image) but I realized when I read that A/A/PC fic that I was way underestimating a mage's potential bag of tricks. So to speak.

Part of what the devs were thinking with Teagan's "brave man" lines?


Probably. I think mages also have a reputation for being a bit more sexually liberated than their non-mage counterparts, so that could also be it.

The first time I flirted with Bann Teagan as a mage, my PC was wearing the Chasind Robes. It's a credit to him that he didn't openly ogle Ms. Amell's exposed bosom at any point during the conversation.

Modifié par SurelyForth, 30 avril 2010 - 06:26 .


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sylvanaerie wrote...

Well its 19 document pages long...is it possible to post something that long on the CC boards? or would I have to divide it up? How long can messages be on the boards before they exceed maximum words allowed?


I'd split it up into chapters for reading ease, personally.  19 document pages is a lot to read in one sitting, after all, without some kind of divider between sections.

As far as length goes...I think the most I've posted at once has been just over 3000 words, but I tend to break up chapters that are longer than that.

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Probably. I think mages also have a reputation for being a bit more sexually liberated than their non-mage counterparts, so that could also be it.

You think so?  I would go rather the opposite, based on what Wynne says about relationships being discouraged, the fact that the templars are always watching (and the lack of doors in the quarters indicate that "always" isn't a euphemism), and that they are an extension of the Chantry.  They don't take vows like templars and priestesses, but I always imagine a rather repressed environment.

As for Teagan's "brave" line, I guess it to mean partly that mages are considered to be on the fringe of society and subject to templar justice.  But I do guess that it also means that a non-mage would have to trust that their mage lover wasn't going to explode a fireball during an argument.

Modifié par Addai67, 30 avril 2010 - 06:31 .


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thanks Sandtigress. Will give it a shot maybe after I get done with the Deep Roads my Dalish is slogging through. If I don't do it now I will probably end up pulling out my hair and dropping the character...

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You think so?  I would go rather the opposite, based on what Wynne says about relationships being discouraged, the fact that the templars are always watching (and the lack of doors in the quarters indicate that "always" isn't a euphemism), and that they are an extension of the Chantry.  They don't take vows like templars and priestesses, but I always imagine a rather repressed environment.

Anders offers valuable tips on how the mages deal with these issues... there may be less weight put on relationships but it doesn't mean the mages aren't ready and willing to pull up their robes for a quick romp when both the urge and opportunity arises, so to speak Posted Image

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Addai67 wrote...

You think so?  I would go rather the opposite, based on what Wynne says about relationships being discouraged, the fact that the templars are always watching (and the lack of doors in the quarters indicate that "always" isn't a euphemism), and that they are an extension of the Chantry.  They don't take vows like templars and priestesses, but I always imagine a rather repressed environment.

Anders offers valuable tips on how the mages deal with these issues... there may be less weight put on relationships but it doesn't mean the mages aren't ready and willing to pull up their robes for a quick romp when both the urge and opportunity arises, so to speak Posted Image

Yes, I thought so. Aren't mages said to be promiscous because long-term relationships aren't encouraged?

I knew there was a reason why I thought Anders was not above little threesomes with friends. :D

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Anders offers valuable tips on how the mages deal with these issues... there may be less weight put on relationships but it doesn't mean the mages aren't ready and willing to pull up their robes for a quick romp when both the urge and opportunity arises, so to speak Posted Image

I've heard that banter, but took it as him trying to deflect Oghren's ribbing.

I just can't picture my Amell (edit: sorry, Surana) going at it all over the Tower with Peeping Cullen just around every corner.

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I've heard that banter, but took it as him trying to deflect Oghren's ribbing.

I just can't picture my Amell going at it all over the Tower with Peeping Cullen just around every corner.


I, personally, could not imagine being able to have a romp knowing that there might be eyes on me, but had I been raised in a situation where I had absolutely no privacy, then I would probably stop even noticing after a while. The possibility of being seen or caught becomes the norm and, if the templars want to watch, then that's their creepy business.

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I, personally, could not imagine being able to have a romp knowing that there might be eyes on me, but had I been raised in a situation where I had absolutely no privacy, then I would probably stop even noticing after a while. The possibility of being seen or caught becomes the norm and, if the templars want to watch, then that's their creepy business.

But you would have been raised by the Chantry just as Alistair was.  Even without the necessity of having to take vows, you'd still be getting the guilt trips.

Wow, I feel sorry for the templars if it's actually as you guys picture it in the Circle.  All that humping in corners and they get none of the action.  Posted Image

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well probably a little pole twirling action....but thats another story.

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Addai67 wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

I, personally, could not imagine being able to have a romp knowing that there might be eyes on me, but had I been raised in a situation where I had absolutely no privacy, then I would probably stop even noticing after a while. The possibility of being seen or caught becomes the norm and, if the templars want to watch, then that's their creepy business.

But you would have been raised by the Chantry just as Alistair was.  Even without the necessity of having to take vows, you'd still be getting the guilt trips.

Wow, I feel sorry for the templars if it's actually as you guys picture it in the Circle.  All that humping in corners and they get none of the action.  Posted Image


If there was as much 'activity' as people imagine, no one in Ferelden would ever get minor tasks done, let alone major ones. ;)

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But you would have been raised by the Chantry just as Alistair was.  Even without the necessity of having to take vows, you'd still be getting the guilt trips.

Wow, I feel sorry for the templars if it's actually as you guys picture it in the Circle.  All that humping in corners and they get none of the action.  Posted Image


I think there's a difference between being raised in the Chantry as an initiate because you're being molded to do the work of the Maker, and being raised in the Chantry because you're a foul thing that needs to be leashed or imprisoned by religion. I've never played an Andrastian mage as I imagine that they figure out the score pretty early on.

And your second point is one of the reasons why situations like Cullen/FM exist and could potentially be very, very bad. He has the Chantry Guilt Complex, and his vows to worry about, and she doesn't.

I'm not saying that mages are always going at it, but I think it does happen and, because mages aren't allowed to marry, it happens on a much more casual basis than it would outside of the Circle.

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klarabella wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

klarabella wrote...

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Things COMPLETELY out of character for the NPCs is what bugs me.  If you already have a romance or a chance of being romantic, then set it up in the story, not go straight from "hi.  I think your hot.  Lets get freaky"

Don't get me started. I stumbled across a fic these days where King Alistair is hooking up with Anora (in the tower) while the PC was away in Amaranthine. Ceeeeeertainly! {smilie}


I saw one with Anders and Alistair and the PC...Alistair just would not do that. It was well written, and all that but...definitely an alternate universe...lol


Yeeeeees, well that's a special one. I guess, you are talking about Midwinter Illumination which is an AU-sequel to the still ongoing Midwinter's Thaw (which is AU itself, because Anora and Fergus married with three kids is just ... yeah). Considering the developement Alistair is put through in AMWT it works for me.

Let's say it is still somehow in character for AMWT-Alistair, who is a convincing derivative of the original (hardened and exiled) Alistair. Never thought about if it was in character for Anders to do that, I hope it is.
I loved his line about the dirty little secret of rejuvenation spells. :blush:



I stopped reading that one a little while back. Too graphic for me and I just don't see that Alistair as being the one from the game at all.

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That mod is awesome but doesn't work for all species/genders yet.

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