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Alistair, post-coronation... and/or Alistair gush thread (Origins/Awakening Spoilers)


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Lady Jess, you use the opalmoon gem on your elf mages too I see. I am trying to finish up my morph package so I need to create some decent looking freaking elves.

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Lady Jess wrote...

Also...pointing out, my IA modded Alistair still has hazel eyes, they are just LIGHTER hazel, the vanilla always looked brown to me.

Crap. Top of the page? Fine...

"And here I thought...Never mind. I guess you've made your decision"
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I never want to see that line, or that face ever again. Sad Alistair is hard, but utterly shocked and betrayed Alistair is too awful:crying:


Really? In my game, much like hazel eyes IRL they either looked golden brown or a yellow toned green depending on the lighting.

Poor guyliner Alistair.

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Yeah, is that IA? I don't use that part of the mod. I either create my own or download each morph seperately. I love the facial hair though.

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cmessaz wrote...

Lady Jess, you use the opalmoon gem on your elf mages too I see. I am trying to finish up my morph package so I need to create some decent looking freaking elves.


On this one, yeah. she's my only elf mage, I deleted the Dalish one. Which means I still need to play a Dalish...sigh. I already have 2 rogues and 2 mages (human and elf both) I guess I'll have to even out the warriors.

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cmessaz wrote...

Yeah, is that IA? I don't use that part of the mod. I either create my own or download each morph seperately. I love the facial hair though.


Thats what I like too, and that it hardly changes him at all. Just added stubble and his eyes, though I barely noticed them.

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He's on the road he won't be clean shaven. You noticed the few guys that used to hang out in this thread once in a while are gone?

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Not going to lie, I do enjoy a bit of the facial scruff. But even then it's a bit too well kept for me to justify it as anything other than intentional xD Still, I like it~

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Yeah, anyone else notice that he seems to look better at and after the landsmeet than before? As far as Alistair goes, there is one morph I need to show you guys if I can find it. I don't know why anyone would do this to him.

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cmessaz wrote...

Yeah, anyone else notice that he seems to look better at and after the landsmeet than before? As far as Alistair goes, there is one morph I need to show you guys if I can find it. I don't know why anyone would do this to him.


I thought it was just me...lol but yes. Not so much appearance but...demeanor.

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Return to Ostagar really dropped the ball with the Joining Chalice. You'd think Alistair would have some sort of reaction to that, wouldn't you? It seems kind of pointless to have it otherwise...

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I seems like RTO just didn't feel emotional enough. And I HATE the comments between Wynne and Alistair toward the end. I get the heck outta dodge before I have to hear the whole thing. Yuck.

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cmessaz wrote...

I seems like RTO just didn't feel emotional enough. And I HATE the comments between Wynne and Alistair toward the end. I get the heck outta dodge before I have to hear the whole thing. Yuck.


Yeah, you know something is wrong when the PC is the one that looks most upset about the whole thing. It's especially funny if you play a character who gave him **** at the beginning of the game. My PCs look sadder when they see Cailan than when Alistair sacrifices himself, or at the Gauntlet when they see a potentially dead loved one. It's totally a WTF moment. If there's a time to give the PC an expression, it's then. Not when they see some guy they knew for all of 5 minutes who they may or may not have told to go **** himself six ways to Sunday.

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Maybe I'm insane but I'm not seeing the difference between this "Maricstair" fellow and good king Cailan.

On a related note. Why am I in this thread?


Me neither. Just switch up the eyebrows and.... ugh. Lol.

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*shudders and passes the brain bleach along* Odd how I can definitely see Alistair in this one, but not see Cailan in Maricstair. I wonder why that is...

Going off-topic for a bit: cmessaz, which files do you need to edit to mess around with dialogue triggers and whatnot? The dlg files, right? I'm loving all the fixes, but there's one conversation in particular that I want to appear at a certain fixed time.

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alistair_main, you may not be able to edit that without a b2b, I can try to make one though I'm not sure how. Are you talking about the party member conversation?

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Lady Jess wrote...
Also...pointing out, my IA modded Alistair still has hazel eyes, they are just LIGHTER hazel, the vanilla always looked brown to me.

Technically the eye color IA is using is t3_eye_lbr (light brown, I imagine), the original is t3_eye_hzl (hazel). Another option is t3_eye_amb (amber), I think that's Zevran's eye color.

I don't really think it matters what eye color you prefer, his eyes are brown ... and that's it. It's a 3D model in a game, there are certain restrictions and I don't take such things for face value. He's supposed to be 21 and the vanilla model doesn't really convey that.

Ever since I knew his age, I was looking for a way to make him look younger and the IA morph was the first morph that was doing a decent job. I loved it. Now that I know how to tweak the headmorph myself I'm using my own version, which is still similar to the IA morph but a little closer to the vanilla look.

I like Maricstair but I wouldn't want to use the morph in the game. Maybe I can make a young Maricstair - that would work for me. I still think there should be more good-looking long hair. I'd love Alistair to have long hair but not at the price of cosplaying as Cailan.

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nranola- that was a duh on my part. I do have an older b2b I created, but my whole problem right now is that I can't load ANY b2b or save any changes. There is something corrupt in my toolset, I plan to attack it tomorrow. If enough people want the party member dialogue to come later, I could take a look.

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nranola wrote...

yukidama wrote...

thegreateski wrote...

Maybe I'm insane but I'm not seeing the difference between this "Maricstair" fellow and good king Cailan.

On a related note. Why am I in this thread?


Me neither. Just switch up the eyebrows and.... ugh. Lol.

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*shudders and passes the brain bleach along* Odd how I can definitely see Alistair in this one, but not see Cailan in Maricstair. I wonder why that is...

Going off-topic for a bit: cmessaz, which files do you need to edit to mess around with dialogue triggers and whatnot? The dlg files, right? I'm loving all the fixes, but there's one conversation in particular that I want to appear at a certain fixed time.


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Inappropriately sad PC is appropriately sad right now.

Modifié par yukidama, 01 mai 2010 - 07:51 .


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God I luv your pc yukidama.

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@cmessaz- What's a b2b? o3o And yes, that's the one. I'd appreciate it if you did one for me but I'd prefer to try and do it on my own, as part of the learning experience. Not to mention with the constant updates to the dialogue fixes I would need to constantly update the file.


@klara- The toolset is a wonderful thing. x3 And I agree about the lack of nice hairstyles. That's the nicest-looking default long hairstyle in the game. D; Or at least the one that suits him best, in my opinion.

I like how it plays off as a Cailan clone too, though. Pretty sure I've already mentioned this about a hundred or two pages ago, but it's a little tragic if you think about it, especially if he's married to Anora when he looks like that. ;3;

Modifié par nranola, 01 mai 2010 - 07:52 .


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cmessaz wrote...

God I luv your pc yukidama.


Thanks, I can give you her head if you want it.... that sounded weird, but the offer stands.

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nranola wrote...

@cmessaz- What's a b2b? o3o And yes, that's the one. I'd appreciate it if you did one for me but I'd prefer to try and do it on my own, as part of the learning experience. Not to mention with the constant updates to the dialogue fixes I would need to constantly update the file.
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It's a builder to builder, but since I can't load mine at the moment, I can't create one. Basically alistair_main is the backbone of the mod. You (I don't think) can edit anything in it unless I get you a B2B. I am going to go back at getting this dang toolset to work for me again, then if you want I will make one and send it to you.

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cmessaz wrote...

God I luv your pc yukidama.


Thanks, I can give you her head if you want it.... that sounded weird, but the offer stands.

Sure! If you export it as a .mop and turn the export properties to "true" I can make it one of my presets in the character generator.

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@yuki- LMAO! Yesss, give her head. >BD I agree with cmessaz. I think your elf is the only PC using that hair color that I've seen and actually liked. GJ YUKI. o3o)-b Out of curiosity though, what specializations did you slap on her? I'm guessing she's an AW?


@cmessaz- So it's a file that calls alistair_main.dlg? Is that it? And yes, send file will be much appreciated. :D I'll look into this whole b2b business myself as well while you're at it.

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cmessaz wrote...

yukidama wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

God I luv your pc yukidama.


Thanks, I can give you her head if you want it.... that sounded weird, but the offer stands.

Sure! If you export it as a .mop and turn the export properties to "true" I can make it one of my presets in the character generator.


'K, I have the .mop file. You'll still need the modded files I used to the hair/eyes/skin though? They're part of Bidelle's and Pineappletree's packs. I'll email the .mop to you now.

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nranola wrote...
I like how it plays off as a Cailan clone too, though. Pretty sure I've already mentioned this about a hundred or two pages ago, but it's a little tragic if you think about it, especially if he's married to Anora when he looks like that. ;3;

HA! Actually, I think it's a great hairstyle when you make him marry Anora. A little creeeeeeeeepy but anything to cause Anora discomfort!

It's not that I don't like Maricstair. He looks good with the hair, better than Cailan! I'd just prefer him to have a unique hairstyle. The little braid ... oh noes, Alistair wouldn't want to braid his hair, it's either a wild mane (caked with darkspawn blood)... or a messy queue ... but alas using one of the queue hairstyles from the game makes him look like Duncan or eerily close to Anders.

If I only knew how to make custom hair! You all would name your children after me if I could do it. You'd love it, you'd love me. Unique Maricstair hair. *dreams*

Modifié par klarabella, 01 mai 2010 - 08:05 .