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[cmessaz]

Did you side with the Templars? I REALLY want to but don't want to screw up with Alistair in Redcliffe. Right, if you have Wynne, you didn't. Duh.

Not sure. Won't ever marry him to that skank.

Modifié par cmessaz, 01 mai 2010 - 04:31 .

[Lady Jess]

cmessaz wrote...

Did you side with the Templars? I REALLY want to but don't want to screw up with Alistair in Redcliffe.

No, I never side with them. I just can't do it. I always take a hit with Alistair in Redcliffe. Even though I had the mage tower done, I sacrificed Isolde and let Jowan put me into the fade. Celeste felt since he didn't escape when he had the chance, she'd show he was trustworthy by letting him send her through the ritual. I chose the wrong option, I should have told him to run. o now he's back at the circle....

[nos_astra]

cmessaz wrote...

Did you side with the Templars? I REALLY want to but don't want to screw up with Alistair in Redcliffe. Right, if you have Wynne, you didn't. Duh.

I am determined to use blood magic at Redcliffe this time. I don't want to be all good every time. Ali will get over it.
Siding with the Templars is easy, just tell the Knight-Commander in the end that there might be blood mages left.

Modifié par klarabella, 01 mai 2010 - 04:34 .

[cmessaz]

Lady Jess wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Did you side with the Templars? I REALLY want to but don't want to screw up with Alistair in Redcliffe.

No, I never side with them. I just can't do it. I always take a hit with Alistair in Redcliffe. Even though I had the mage tower done, I sacrificed Isolde and let Jowan put me into the fade. Celeste felt since he didn't escape when he had the chance, she'd show he was trustworthy by letting him send her through the ritual. I chose the wrong option, I should have told him to run. o now he's back at the circle....

I have never killed Isolde or Connor. Even when I first played the game I saved them. I can't bring myself to do it.

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

cmessaz wrote...

Did you side with the Templars? I REALLY want to but don't want to screw up with Alistair in Redcliffe. Right, if you have Wynne, you didn't. Duh.

Not sure. Won't ever marry him to that skank.

No, you can side with the templars and keep Wynne. Just side with Cullen after you have defeated Uldred and rescue the mages. Tell Gregoir you can't risk even one blood mage going free, and the circle will be annuled, but Wynne will stay.

The conversation options I think are a little less with a mage if you do this. Seems with the circle destroyed, Wynne treads alot more lightly. Given her "condition", maybe it's a good thing.

[cmessaz]

klarabella wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Did you side with the Templars? I REALLY want to but don't want to screw up with Alistair in Redcliffe. Right, if you have Wynne, you didn't. Duh.

I am determined to use blood magic at Redcliffe this time. I don't want to be all good every time. Ali will get over it.
Siding with the Templars is easy, just tell the Knight-Commander in the end that there might be blood mages left.

I was determined too. But I still couldn't bring myself to do it. My next mage, I plan to. Also I discovered that you can't execute Jowan yourself if you do the Urn quest before Redcliffe. Dangit so now I have to do that.

[nos_astra]

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...
The conversation options I think are a little less with a mage if you do this. Seems with the circle destroyed, Wynne treads alot more lightly. Given her "condition", maybe it's a good thing.

As long as there are griffons in the story I wouldn't if Wynne talked less.

[tmp7704]

Addai67 wrote...

BTW there was some discussion last night (were your ears ringing?) about whether you're female or male.  The conclusion was that no male would ever create a) tent scenes as sweet as yours, and boobage reducing mods.  LOL  But just so we know for sure...?

Ack, think i was asleep when that was going on. And lol no, it's a guy, sorry for confusion

Zevran: it's a man, baby!

... right. Guess my wiring goes just bit different, find the female form dang beautiful the way they naturally are so when it gets too exaggerated it just feels meh.For the romance scenes... i like leaving some things up to imagination, out of firm belief it can do much better work filling in the blank with what the reader/viewer actually finds smexy themselves, than the full-blown documentary style which is way easier to accidentally break down especially when the computers aren't really great at drawing it, so... yeah.

[cmessaz]

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Did you side with the Templars? I REALLY want to but don't want to screw up with Alistair in Redcliffe. Right, if you have Wynne, you didn't. Duh.

Not sure. Won't ever marry him to that skank.

No, you can side with the templars and keep Wynne. Just side with Cullen after you have defeated Uldred and rescue the mages. Tell Gregoir you can't risk even one blood mage going free, and the circle will be annuled, but Wynne will stay.

The conversation options I think are a little less with a mage if you do this. Seems with the circle destroyed, Wynne treads alot more lightly. Given her "condition", maybe it's a good thing.

I didn't realize Wynne would stay! I am a healing mage though, and I do better than her so it's not too big a deal if she left.

[cmessaz]

tmp7704 wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

BTW there was some discussion last night (were your ears ringing?) about whether you're female or male.  The conclusion was that no male would ever create a) tent scenes as sweet as yours, and boobage reducing mods.  LOL  But just so we know for sure...?

Ack, think i was asleep when that was going on. And lol no, it's a guy, sorry for confusion

Zevran: it's a man, baby!

... right. Guess my wiring goes just bit different, find the female form dang beautiful the way they naturally are so when it gets too exaggerated it just feels meh.For the romance scenes... i like leaving some things up to imagination, out of firm belief it can do much better work filling in the blank with what the reader/viewer actually finds smexy themselves, than the full-blown documentary style which is way easier to accidentally break down especially when the computers aren't really great at drawing it, so... yeah.

You must drive the ladies crazy then.

[Lady Jess]

cmessaz wrote...

Did you side with the Templars? I REALLY want to but don't want to screw up with Alistair in Redcliffe. Right, if you have Wynne, you didn't. Duh.

Not sure. Won't ever marry him to that skank.

I'm playing Celeste a bit different than I usually do. She's doing her duty, but still out for herself. She never expected to have someone that loved her, and she loved back. But as sole king he'd have Eamon harping on him to marry. As sole Queen Anora would be too harsh. The two together, would even each other out and keep Eamon out of the picture. Anora is going to know straight out Celeste isn't going anywhere. And Celeste knows Anora won't touch Alistair with a ten foot polearm. The women may not like each other but they understand each other.

[LadyDamodred]

cmessaz wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Did you side with the Templars? I REALLY want to but don't want to screw up with Alistair in Redcliffe.

No, I never side with them. I just can't do it. I always take a hit with Alistair in Redcliffe. Even though I had the mage tower done, I sacrificed Isolde and let Jowan put me into the fade. Celeste felt since he didn't escape when he had the chance, she'd show he was trustworthy by letting him send her through the ritual. I chose the wrong option, I should have told him to run. o now he's back at the circle....

I have never killed Isolde or Connor. Even when I first played the game I saved them. I can't bring myself to do it.

Same.  I'm gonna have to do it at least once, though.

[Lady Jess]

cmessaz wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Did you side with the Templars? I REALLY want to but don't want to screw up with Alistair in Redcliffe.

No, I never side with them. I just can't do it. I always take a hit with Alistair in Redcliffe. Even though I had the mage tower done, I sacrificed Isolde and let Jowan put me into the fade. Celeste felt since he didn't escape when he had the chance, she'd show he was trustworthy by letting him send her through the ritual. I chose the wrong option, I should have told him to run. o now he's back at the circle....

I have never killed Isolde or Connor. Even when I first played the game I saved them. I can't bring myself to do it.

I couldn't at first. But by my second play, the way she talked to Alistair did it. And him telling me how she treated him. My elf mage, got even worse treatment at the windmill and saw her as a racist ****. And the cause of all the trouble she was blaming Jowan for. If HE had to pay a price, then so did SHE for creating the oppurtunity in the first place.

[cmessaz]

Lady Jess wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Did you side with the Templars? I REALLY want to but don't want to screw up with Alistair in Redcliffe. Right, if you have Wynne, you didn't. Duh.

Not sure. Won't ever marry him to that skank.

I'm playing Celeste a bit different than I usually do. She's doing her duty, but still out for herself. She never expected to have someone that loved her, and she loved back. But as sole king he'd have Eamon harping on him to marry. As sole Queen Anora would be too harsh. The two together, would even each other out and keep Eamon out of the picture. Anora is going to know straight out Celeste isn't going anywhere. And Celeste knows Anora won't touch Alistair with a ten foot polearm. The women may not like each other but they understand each other.

Anora says they will produce a Mac Tir/Theirin heir. The fact that they would be sleeping together just . If I ever did it, I wouldn't be in the picture.

[LadyDamodred]

Lady Jess wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Did you side with the Templars? I REALLY want to but don't want to screw up with Alistair in Redcliffe. Right, if you have Wynne, you didn't. Duh.

Not sure. Won't ever marry him to that skank.

I'm playing Celeste a bit different than I usually do. She's doing her duty, but still out for herself. She never expected to have someone that loved her, and she loved back. But as sole king he'd have Eamon harping on him to marry. As sole Queen Anora would be too harsh. The two together, would even each other out and keep Eamon out of the picture. Anora is going to know straight out Celeste isn't going anywhere. And Celeste knows Anora won't touch Alistair with a ten foot polearm. The women may not like each other but they understand each other.

Except Alistair will be touching Anora.  He will tell you that.  He's going to try and give her an heir.  :/

My mistress can handle another wife, but Anora?  No.

[Addai]

Further fodder for thought on the Maricstair look meaning Ali is spending hours in front of a little golden mirror: 

The scruffyface cancels out that impression.  To me, the scruffyface indicates that the look is more casual than his usual.  I mean, if he's maintaining short hair, that means he's getting regular haircuts as well as shaving.  For instance, I always had really short hair until after graduation I spent a year or two as a full-time farm hand and the only men I saw were hicks I didn't care to impress, so I ended up growing my hair longer because of it and I've kept it that way ever since.



Maricstair and HNM contemplating the virtues of longer hair + scruffyface:

"That look is good on you, man."
"You too, bro."
"Alright, let's go kick some darkspawn ass."
"Word."

Modifié par Addai67, 01 mai 2010 - 04:41 .

[cmessaz]

And let's remember that there is no mention of another wife at least right off the bat when you are his mistress. It may turn out to be another deal like Anora (creepy that) not marrying because of her daddy. Maybe Alistair will not be able to be with another woman because he loves his mistress too much. I think it is really up to you to RP after the game ends. It is likely there will be no heir anyway. If I ever do the mistress ending, this is what I have in my mind, otherwise the hero of Fereden wouldn't stoop to being the king's ****.

Modifié par cmessaz, 01 mai 2010 - 04:45 .

[LadyDamodred]

Addai67 wrote...

Further fodder for thought on the Maricstair look meaning Ali is spending hours in front of a little golden mirror: 

The scruffyface cancels out that impression.  To me, the scruffyface indicates that the look is more casual than his usual.  I mean, if he's maintaining short hair, that means he's getting regular haircuts as well as shaving.  For instance, I always had really short hair until after graduation I spent a year or two as a full-time farm hand and the only men I saw were hicks I didn't care to impress, so I ended up growing my hair longer because of it and I've kept it that way ever since.



Maricstair and HNM contemplating the virtues of longer hair + scruffyface:

"That look is good on you, man."
"You too, bro."
"Alright, let's go kick some darkspawn ass."
"Word."

I somehow think Alistair finds time to take a pair of scissors to his hair every couple of months of so.  My PCs will cut his hair for him, but braid it?  No.  And I figure he shaves when he gets the chance, which is probably pretty often, actually.  We do make camp every night. 

It's really easy to RP most looks for characters.  I have way more issue with the elaborate coiffed female hairstyles than with Alistair being scruffy or not.

[Addai]

tmp7704 wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

BTW there was some discussion last night (were your ears ringing?) about whether you're female or male.  The conclusion was that no male would ever create a) tent scenes as sweet as yours, and boobage reducing mods.  LOL  But just so we know for sure...?

Ack, think i was asleep when that was going on. And lol no, it's a guy, sorry for confusion

Zevran: it's a man, baby!

... right. Guess my wiring goes just bit different, find the female form dang beautiful the way they naturally are so when it gets too exaggerated it just feels meh.For the romance scenes... i like leaving some things up to imagination, out of firm belief it can do much better work filling in the blank with what the reader/viewer actually finds smexy themselves, than the full-blown documentary style which is way easier to accidentally break down especially when the computers aren't really great at drawing it, so... yeah.

OMG I'm so sorry!!!  I was arguing for the "tmp has to be a woman" side and I think I've referred to you as "she" the whole thread.
I still love you for your modding awesomeness, in a completely platonic internetz way.   LOL

[Lady Jess]

cmessaz wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Did you side with the Templars? I REALLY want to but don't want to screw up with Alistair in Redcliffe. Right, if you have Wynne, you didn't. Duh.

Not sure. Won't ever marry him to that skank.

I'm playing Celeste a bit different than I usually do. She's doing her duty, but still out for herself. She never expected to have someone that loved her, and she loved back. But as sole king he'd have Eamon harping on him to marry. As sole Queen Anora would be too harsh. The two together, would even each other out and keep Eamon out of the picture. Anora is going to know straight out Celeste isn't going anywhere. And Celeste knows Anora won't touch Alistair with a ten foot polearm. The women may not like each other but they understand each other.

Anora says they will produce a Mac Tir/Theirin heir. The fact that they would be sleeping together just . If I ever did it, I wouldn't be in the picture.

Sure she says it. But Cailan couldn't get that far with her, and she may have actually loved him. She doesn't even LIKE alistair...lol. And Alistair will never love her. Physical Celeste can deal with, another wife Alistair may eventually fall for. Anora, never, not with who her father was.

[Lady Jess]

cmessaz wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Did you side with the Templars? I REALLY want to but don't want to screw up with Alistair in Redcliffe. Right, if you have Wynne, you didn't. Duh.

Not sure. Won't ever marry him to that skank.

I'm playing Celeste a bit different than I usually do. She's doing her duty, but still out for herself. She never expected to have someone that loved her, and she loved back. But as sole king he'd have Eamon harping on him to marry. As sole Queen Anora would be too harsh. The two together, would even each other out and keep Eamon out of the picture. Anora is going to know straight out Celeste isn't going anywhere. And Celeste knows Anora won't touch Alistair with a ten foot polearm. The women may not like each other but they understand each other.

Anora says they will produce a Mac Tir/Theirin heir. The fact that they would be sleeping together just . If I ever did it, I wouldn't be in the picture.

Sure she says it. But Cailan couldn't get that far with her, and she may have actually loved him. She doesn't even LIKE alistair...lol. And Alistair will never love her. Physical Celeste can deal with, another wife Alistair may eventually fall for. Anora, never, not with who her father was.

[cmessaz]

To each his own. I think Anora is an evil woman who shouldn't be in power. But thats just me.

Wish me luck with my newest toolset endeavor!

Modifié par cmessaz, 01 mai 2010 - 04:49 .

[Addai]

LadyDamodred wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Did you side with the Templars? I REALLY want to but don't want to screw up with Alistair in Redcliffe.

No, I never side with them. I just can't do it. I always take a hit with Alistair in Redcliffe. Even though I had the mage tower done, I sacrificed Isolde and let Jowan put me into the fade. Celeste felt since he didn't escape when he had the chance, she'd show he was trustworthy by letting him send her through the ritual. I chose the wrong option, I should have told him to run. o now he's back at the circle....

I have never killed Isolde or Connor. Even when I first played the game I saved them. I can't bring myself to do it.

Same.  I'm gonna have to do it at least once, though.

I've never been able to side with the templars, but I go the Isolde sacrifice route about half the time now.  Putting things on pause to go to the Circle and back is exposing that whole village as well as everyone in the castle to more of the same.  They've suffered enough.  I really don't think it's the "good" thing to do to leave them to it.  If your character is a strict Chantry follower, you probably would still feel you have no choice, but otherwise you should have no expectation to come back to Redcliffe and find anything but a smoking ruin.

Modifié par Addai67, 01 mai 2010 - 04:52 .

[cmessaz]

But doesn't it ruin a romance with Alistair?

[tmp7704]

LadyDamodred wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

I have never killed Isolde or Connor. Even when I first played the game I saved them. I can't bring myself to do it.

Same.  I'm gonna have to do it at least once, though.

My CE went that route -- didn't want to risk leaving the demon run free while going to the tower and with her own mother dead it was beyond her to sacrifice someone else's mother like that, but she was willing to kill Connor given the lack of other route. That ultimately ended with Isolde begging/forcing her way to stop it and then she did it herself. The whole thing made for extremely powerful scene imo, Isolde's VA is... well, i really can't dislike her the way people tend to, having witnessed that.

edit: top of page... a suave Alistair in the background, and it's actually relevant because that's exactly the ending to the scene in question.

Modifié par tmp7704, 01 mai 2010 - 05:01 .