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[SurelyForth]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

No stopping ladies! Keep it up!

I think he is sad because I am looking at something other than him entirely.

I'm glad I wasn't the first to say it.

[LadyDamodred]

*blinks at sylvanaerie*

Wait, what? Scenario suggestion for what? A fanfic? *is so confused*

Edit:  Or did you mean for what's making Alistair sad?

Modifié par LadyDamodred, 13 avril 2010 - 01:01 .

[Thor Rand Al]

cmessaz wrote...

No stopping ladies! Keep it up!

Alistair doesn't look to pleased lol.

Lmao nice cleavage shot.  Kidding, I'm not a perv, but seriously why can't you get something like that when your wearing an outfit like this:






Unless there's mode out there that lets you do this.

[sylvanaerie]

for fanfic...thought you were talking fanfic? maybe not *Facepalms* I just confused myself...

[KnightofPhoenix]

Thor Rand Al wrote...

Does she think she failed her parents?

Quite frankly if my daughter was running around the whole nation dressed up like that, I would say she failed me completely

[sylvanaerie]

I usually tell him "My answer is my own" or something like that. Fits my stoic girl best.

[Bratt1204]

sylvanaerie wrote...

yea now i don't know whether to make my next PC a S&S or go with DW on Alistair or make both DW. I know Val is pretty bad ass with DW skills. She cuts through crap like butter, esp with Momentum on.

I love when you get to the skill level to allow you to wield 2 full size swords. I actually have a mod that allows me to DW two handed swords - that's badass. It looks so cool on Flurry.

[Thor Rand Al]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Thor Rand Al wrote...

Does she think she failed her parents?

Quite frankly if my daughter was running around the whole nation dressed up like that, I would say she failed me completely

Lmao that happens to be my favorite outfit.  I keep looking on the Nexus form for other's lol.



Edit:  And it fit's my Zena warrior look lol

Modifié par Thor Rand Al, 13 avril 2010 - 01:10 .

[LadyDamodred]

sylvanaerie wrote...

for fanfic...thought you were talking fanfic? maybe not *Facepalms* I just confused myself...

We've clearly managed to confuse ourselves here.  Let's back up a step.  What were you referring to originally?

[Axekix]

An Alistair picture thread makes 45 pages in 2 days? Really?

[Thor Rand Al]

Axekix wrote...

An Alistair picture thread makes 45 pages in 2 days? Really?

It's not just pic's.  There's other topics in here, which you'd see if you looked

[LadyDamodred]

It's not all pictures. There's a lot of actual discussion, too.



Care to contribute?

[SurelyForth]

I have an unholy love for the camera work during Riordan's reveal about the archdemon. I love how it frames the PC and Alistair(/Loghain); it makes it feel like such a Moment and sort of encapsulates the "us against the world" thing that you have going throughout the entire game.

Modifié par SurelyForth, 13 avril 2010 - 01:17 .

[LadyDamodred]

ooh, yeah, that scene does have good angles. I should see if there are more fun ones from there.

[Axekix]

LadyDamodred wrote...

Care to contribute?

Oh you don't want to know what I think about Alistair

I'll show myself out.

[Thalorin1919]

sami jo wrote...

Thalorin1919 wrote...

sami jo wrote...

klarabella wrote...

sami jo wrote...
He is the variety of leader who would kill one innocent to save a dozen others without much remorse, but wouldn't kill an innocent for fun.  I think that is how Loghain started, but the line between what was morally acceptable to preserve the masses and what wasn't  all but disappeared for him.

Very good post. Especially this part is exactly what I think about Loghain. And I always have a feeling if you have Loghain killed at the Landsmeet you've already made one little step down the road Loghain went. Maric made some steps down that road, too.

I really hate that killing him or losing Alister are your only options.  Killing someone in front of his daughter after he has submitted just feels wrong, particularly since an argument could be made that saving him would help unite the nation when it is most necessary.  I understand Alistairs desire for vengeance, but I'm not so sure it is something I would want to encourage in the man I am putting on the throne.

Actually its something that I strongly encourage. Loghain committed atrocious crimes not only at Ostagar, but against Ferelden as well. By starting the civil war which in turn resulted in settlements burnt, nobles hanged, and torture and the selling of elves to happen. I dont think there is an argument that he could not united Ferelden, considering half of Ferelden didnt even accept his regency.

In turn, I let Alistair have his vengeance, but I also feel justice has been done for all of Ferelden. Loghain had to pay for crimes and he did. Executing him at the Landsmeet in front of his daughter may not of had been necessary, but it had to be done.

Executing him?  Perhaps.  I can see the arguments on both sides and I have had characters go both ways.  Executing him in that way just give you a reputation as a vengeful brute.  Such a reputation has its uses in that political climate, but I can't imagine that Alistair won't regret the way in which it happened at a later date.  Justice is a good thing, vengeance is a scary path for a leader to take.

Vengeance can bring a person down to do bad things. But i dont really see this as a vengeance that would actually bring down Alistair. He not only wants to execute Loghain for leaving Duncan out there, but for EVERYTHING else he has done.

As a noble, I wouldnt not see him as a vengeful brute. I would see him as a king that enforces justice out to those who have done wrong. Alistair wont regret what he has done, he knows Loghain deserves it. It's one of those things with him I believe when it happens, he will then begin to move on. I dont see what else you would do with Loghain. Honestly, execution really is the only option with him I believe. Plus if you were to spare him I think, you would look more like an idiot to the nobles who just accepted a criminal into there order rather than having the future king enforce justice on him.

[cmessaz]

Yeah people sorry about the cleavage shot I just wanted to see if I could get it to post.....

[sylvanaerie]

LadyDamodred wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

for fanfic...thought you were talking fanfic? maybe not *Facepalms* I just confused myself...

We've clearly managed to confuse ourselves here.  Let's back up a step.  What were you referring to originally?

I did confuse myself sorry. You typed Screenies and I read that as scenarios ....I think I have been up a little too long and also doing like 3 things on the PC at once doesnt' help

[LadyDamodred]

Ah, okay. Now the big question... Do you want a fanfic where that happens? B/c I can do it. *chortles*

[KnightofPhoenix]

cmessaz wrote...

Yeah people sorry about the cleavage shot I just wanted to see if I could get it to post.....

You should be sorry. How dare you post a pic that has something infinately more interesting than Alistair?

[LadyDamodred]

Thalorin1919 wrote...
Vengeance can bring a person down to do bad things. But i dont really see this as a vengeance that would actually bring down Alistair. He not only wants to execute Loghain for leaving Duncan out there, but for EVERYTHING else he has done.

As a noble, I wouldnt not see him as a vengeful brute. I would see him as a king that enforces justice out to those who have done wrong. Alistair wont regret what he has done, he knows Loghain deserves it. It's one of those things with him I believe when it happens, he will then begin to move on. I dont see what else you would do with Loghain. Honestly, execution really is the only option with him I believe. Plus if you were to spare him I think, you would look more like an idiot to the nobles who just accepted a criminal into there order rather than having the future king enforce justice on him.

Yes, I think for Alistair, it's more about justice than vengeance all by itself.  I believe that's how he refers to it throughout the game, as well.  There is a difference.  Lya wants vengeance, screw justice.  she wants to slide her blade into his flesh and make him scream.  Alistair just wants Loghain dead.

[cmessaz]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Yeah people sorry about the cleavage shot I just wanted to see if I could get it to post.....

You should be sorry. How dare you post a pic that has something infinately more interesting than Alistair?

You are too funny Knight, I like it when you join a thread!

Modifié par cmessaz, 13 avril 2010 - 01:27 .

[sylvanaerie]

LadyDamodred wrote...

Thalorin1919 wrote...
Vengeance can bring a person down to do bad things. But i dont really see this as a vengeance that would actually bring down Alistair. He not only wants to execute Loghain for leaving Duncan out there, but for EVERYTHING else he has done.

As a noble, I wouldnt not see him as a vengeful brute. I would see him as a king that enforces justice out to those who have done wrong. Alistair wont regret what he has done, he knows Loghain deserves it. It's one of those things with him I believe when it happens, he will then begin to move on. I dont see what else you would do with Loghain. Honestly, execution really is the only option with him I believe. Plus if you were to spare him I think, you would look more like an idiot to the nobles who just accepted a criminal into there order rather than having the future king enforce justice on him.

Yes, I think for Alistair, it's more about justice than vengeance all by itself.  I believe that's how he refers to it throughout the game, as well.  There is a difference.  Lya wants vengeance, screw justice.  she wants to slide her blade into his flesh and make him scream.  Alistair just wants Loghain dead.

Did you get into my head or something? Thats what Val said too when Duncan said it to her in the Fanfic I am righting.  "JUSTICE I don't want JUSTICE I want him to PAY!"

[KnightofPhoenix]

LadyDamodred wrote...
Yes, I think for Alistair, it's more about justice than vengeance all by itself.  I believe that's how he refers to it throughout the game, as well.  There is a difference.  Lya wants vengeance, screw justice.  she wants to slide her blade into his flesh and make him scream.  Alistair just wants Loghain dead.

Might have been true, if Alistair doesn't decide to abandon everyone, including the nation that he all of a sudden wanted to rule. How is that justice?

A king trying to impose justice? He wasn't even king. And what kind of would be king would just abandon his nation because of one man?

Nope sorry, it's clearly petty vengeance he was looking for in my eyes..

@ cmessaz
Thank you. You just keep posting pics like that, and I will definately come here  

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 13 avril 2010 - 01:32 .

[SurelyForth]

LadyDamodred wrote...

Yes, I think for Alistair, it's more about justice than vengeance all by itself.  I believe that's how he refers to it throughout the game, as well.  There is a difference.  Lya wants vengeance, screw justice.  she wants to slide her blade into his flesh and make him scream.  Alistair just wants Loghain dead.

I do this gets missed because, by the time the Landsmeet rolls around, Alistair might not have said much about Loghain for a while. And then, when you get in the thick of it, he gets so passionate that it comes off like he wants vengeance for vengeance (and it can feel completely out of the blue). Does he say anything about justice during the whole kerfluffle with Riordan? I know he does if you spare Loghain and marry him to Anora.