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[Serissia]

I'm going to post a cute pic to get all the bad out of the thread. *cringe* The nightmares!

Modifié par Serissia, 02 mai 2010 - 01:52 .

[nranola]

@tmp- You mean the lack of armor up top? Lol I suppose that's true, but the leather still provides some sort of protection compared to when there's nothing there at all. I'm looking at you, Dalish. >3> *pokes exposed elven tummeh*

Not that it bothers me all too much. I understand the aesthetic, it does look nice, but I can't help poking fun at it every now and then. xD


Pictures! No Ostagar yet, so have this instead: Alistair and my AW by the fire being OH SO MANRY.

Modifié par nranola, 02 mai 2010 - 02:03 .

[SurelyForth]

nranola wrote...

Pictures! No Ostagar yet, so have this instead: Alistair and my AW by the fire being OH SO MANRY.

This picture is great! Besides the general armor awesomeness, your AW is seriously cute.

[Serissia]

Oh Nranola you're playing a AW? Tips pls! Mine is teh suxor.

[sylvanaerie]

SurelyForth wrote...

nranola wrote...

Pictures! No Ostagar yet, so have this instead: Alistair and my AW by the fire being OH SO MANRY.

This picture is great! Besides the general armor awesomeness, your AW is seriously cute.

Damn this pic JUST made me want to get the Ivory Tower and I usually hate massive armor on my PCs for the shoulder blockage you get...sigh oh well if she is an elf it may not be as bad as a human...

[nranola]

@Surely- Ohoho~ Ethan is pleased to hear that. >;3


@Serissia- Yeah, but I'm still feeling my way around how best to go about it as well. We're pretty much in the same boat. xD Still haven't decided whether to focus more on attacks or spells. One thing I noticed if you cast certains spells (like Shock) while having swords/daggers equipped it adds an annoying albeit small delay, so it's good to have a spare staff on hand just in case.


@sylvan- There are mods that make those things smaller, I think, though I personally haven't used them. o3o

Modifié par nranola, 02 mai 2010 - 02:23 .

[Serissia]

nranola wrote...
@Serissia- Yeah, but I'm still feeling my way around how best to go about it as well. We're pretty much in the same boat. xD Still haven't decided whether to focus more on attacks or spells. One thing I noticed if you cast certains spells (like Shock) while having swords/daggers equipped it adds an annoying albeit small delay, so it's good to have a spare staff on hand just in case.

Did you get the mod for draw weapon casting?  I want to basically focus on self buffing and melee attacks/white damage.  I don't know if I have to wait until I'm higher level or what because I'm getting absolutely abysmal damage out put.  It's funny because playing as a normal robe/staff fireball flinger I'm insanely over powered.  I kind of want a happy medium since the mage is so OP it's almost pointless.  I was actually pretty much flying through Nightmare mode doing Grease Fire with Alistair taunting in the middle. 

[nranola]

I don't know what that mod is, so I didn't get it, no. What's it for? If that's your focus then you might want to look into the Enhancement and Telekinesis lines.

[errant_knight]

sylvanaerie wrote...

Thor Rand Al wrote...

I still love this part n thanks cmessaz for telling me about this


Let her have it Alistair lmao

I love Zevran's comments at this moment too.  One reason Alistair and Zev are my two favorite companions!

Y'know, I've never seen this because I never leave Alistair behind. Is it worth not having him there for the whole Howe estate thing? (I wouldn't have been able to do that before. It took me a ridiculous abount of time to realize that you don't have to fight all those guards and dogs if you use the other door.... D'oh.

[Serissia]

@nranola

Here's a list of the mods I'm using for my AW:
Arcane Warrior Plus
Spell School - Divine
Arcane Warrior Weapon Drawn Casting
Cheaper Combat Magic

The Arcane Arts looks promising but I haven't tried it.  I might if the combination of spells I'm using now still fails to deliver.

Modifié par Serissia, 02 mai 2010 - 03:46 .

[SurelyForth]

errant_knight wrote...

Y'know, I've never seen this because I never leave Alistair behind. Is it worth not having him there for the whole Howe estate thing? (I wouldn't have been able to do that before. It took me a ridiculous abount of time to realize that you don't have to fight all those guards and dogs if you use the other door.... D'oh.

It's my preferred way of doing things. I like that he gets upset at Anora for throwing you to Cauthrien. It also roleplays well, since rescuing her from Howe's Estate is probably the highest risk quest you get as far as potential fallout. There's no guarantee that you'll succeed/survive, that it isn't a trap or that it won't be played against you in the Landsmeet. It feels expedient to keep Alistair out of it for all of those reasons- to protect at least one of the Wardens and to ensure that he can't be implicated in any scandal that might arise from the whole endeavor.

You can still escape on your own with relative ease or designate a rescue party. 

Modifié par SurelyForth, 02 mai 2010 - 03:39 .

[Serissia]

SurelyForth wrote...
It's my preferred way of doing things. I like that he gets upset at Anora for throwing you to Cauthrien. It also roleplays well, since rescuing her from Howe's Estate is probably the highest risk quest you get as far as potential fallout. There's no guarantee that you'll succeed/survive, that it isn't a trap or that it won't be played against you in the Landsmeet. It feels expedient to keep Alistair out of it for all of those reasons- to protect at least one of the Wardens and to ensure that he can't be implicated in any scandal that might arise from the whole endeavor.

You can still escape on your own with relative ease or designate a rescue party. 

Is Riordan's response to you vastly different w/ Alistair not there?

[Addai]

Serissia wrote...

nranola wrote...
@Serissia- Yeah, but I'm still feeling my way around how best to go about it as well. We're pretty much in the same boat. xD Still haven't decided whether to focus more on attacks or spells. One thing I noticed if you cast certains spells (like Shock) while having swords/daggers equipped it adds an annoying albeit small delay, so it's good to have a spare staff on hand just in case.

Did you get the mod for draw weapon casting?  I want to basically focus on self buffing and melee attacks/white damage.  I don't know if I have to wait until I'm higher level or what because I'm getting absolutely abysmal damage out put.  It's funny because playing as a normal robe/staff fireball flinger I'm insanely over powered.  I kind of want a happy medium since the mage is so OP it's almost pointless.  I was actually pretty much flying through Nightmare mode doing Grease Fire with Alistair taunting in the middle. 

That's strange.  Do you have Spellweaver?  I ran no mods whatsoever and my AW did as much damage as the high-level warriors in the party when she switched to S&S.  Which wasn't often, because the attack still has the same problem as all S&S attacks- slow as molasses.

I built her around what you could cast with weapon drawn.  Even without the mod you can get a lot of casting this way.  The wiki has an Arcane Warrior Spellcasting page.

Modifié par Addai67, 02 mai 2010 - 03:50 .

[SurelyForth]

Serissia wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...
It's my preferred way of doing things. I like that he gets upset at Anora for throwing you to Cauthrien. It also roleplays well, since rescuing her from Howe's Estate is probably the highest risk quest you get as far as potential fallout. There's no guarantee that you'll succeed/survive, that it isn't a trap or that it won't be played against you in the Landsmeet. It feels expedient to keep Alistair out of it for all of those reasons- to protect at least one of the Wardens and to ensure that he can't be implicated in any scandal that might arise from the whole endeavor.

You can still escape on your own with relative ease or designate a rescue party. 

Is Riordan's response to you vastly different w/ Alistair not there?

Quite a bit in the beginning, since he has to introduce himself. He knows you're a Warden and says he recognizes you from Duncan's recruitment records. After that, you still get the same information from him. 

[nranola]

@Serissia- Ah, the only mod I'm using on my AW at the moment is the Ivory Tower armor set. It's tempting to go for others but I won't push it. xD And with regards to Riordan... he will say he recognizes you by the description Duncan sent him before, something along those lines I think? The rest is essentially the same.


Awww why isn't the Forgotten Armor showing up for me? I'm already in Ostagar and it hasn't popped into my inventory yet. I want to see it on my HNF, dammit. ;3;

Modifié par nranola, 02 mai 2010 - 04:00 .

[errant_knight]

SurelyForth wrote...

Serissia wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...
It's my preferred way of doing things. I like that he gets upset at Anora for throwing you to Cauthrien. It also roleplays well, since rescuing her from Howe's Estate is probably the highest risk quest you get as far as potential fallout. There's no guarantee that you'll succeed/survive, that it isn't a trap or that it won't be played against you in the Landsmeet. It feels expedient to keep Alistair out of it for all of those reasons- to protect at least one of the Wardens and to ensure that he can't be implicated in any scandal that might arise from the whole endeavor.

You can still escape on your own with relative ease or designate a rescue party. 

Is Riordan's response to you vastly different w/ Alistair not there?

Quite a bit in the beginning, since he has to introduce himself. He knows you're a Warden and says he recognizes you from Duncan's recruitment records. After that, you still get the same information from him. 

 Ia Alistair amusing when he comes to rescue you?

[Merilsell]

Addai67 wrote...

One thing that did surprise me is that he says "I didn't want to be king, and I still don't." I had always said that a hardened Alistair wanted to be king. He doesn't, he's just more willing to accept it and see the good in it.

That's how I see it as well. He is happier as a Warden but his sense of duty is stronger in that moment, even when he's hardened. He feels obliged to takes the throne because it's his duty and sees that he can do some good, as said. The face he makes when asking "are you willing to give up your freedom for it" says a lot as well. I think a great deal of his willingness to become king is that the only other option is the hated Anora. I quite don't know if he would be so persistent if there were another candidate. Interesting was also that he said to my FEM who stayed as mistress; "Being king is bearable-- as long I have you." (D'aaaww) So even hardened he isn't ecstatic of the idea to be king but he copes with it -- better than unhardened Ali for sure--- but I tend to think it's not the life he eventually wanted for himself.



Nevertheless I prefer Warden Alistair (though depends on the PC I'm playing) Lets have Ali his well deserved freedom, he never had in his life before. Stupid biatch can keep the throne. *shrug*



@Aimo's comic: Maker tis totally sad and emotional, yet this is how I picture the DR and Ali. He is doing this to save the woman he loves and therefore willing to sacrifice himself for this deed *sad panda* He thinks of all the things he has found and experienced and therefore is not willing to give this up. Yet all the guilt and agony showing through during the 'act' there ---simply beautiful in a twisted way.

[nranola]

errant_knight wrote...

 Ia Alistair amusing when he comes to rescue you?

Depends on who you take with you. But if you mean to ask if he's amusing for that scene when he finally opens the door to your cell, he sounds more relieved than anything. Could be different for those not in a romance with him though? Not sure. Would have to check the toolset to be certain.

This screenshot bears repeating, I think.



Alistair: WHO IS SHE TALKING TOOOO :crying: WHY IS SHE NEKKIIIID
Dog: (Jealous barking!)

Modifié par nranola, 02 mai 2010 - 04:15 .

[SurelyForth]

errant_knight wrote...

 Ia Alistair amusing when he comes to rescue you?

IMO, he's the least amusing of all the companions during that part. My guess is that, since he's probably the least likely to be available for the rescue, he got less writing attention than the others. He still has his funny moments, but it's nothing exceptional. 

[Lady Jess]

SurelyForth wrote...

Serissia wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...
It's my preferred way of doing things. I like that he gets upset at Anora for throwing you to Cauthrien. It also roleplays well, since rescuing her from Howe's Estate is probably the highest risk quest you get as far as potential fallout. There's no guarantee that you'll succeed/survive, that it isn't a trap or that it won't be played against you in the Landsmeet. It feels expedient to keep Alistair out of it for all of those reasons- to protect at least one of the Wardens and to ensure that he can't be implicated in any scandal that might arise from the whole endeavor.

You can still escape on your own with relative ease or designate a rescue party. 

Is Riordan's response to you vastly different w/ Alistair not there?

Quite a bit in the beginning, since he has to introduce himself. He knows you're a Warden and says he recognizes you from Duncan's recruitment records. After that, you still get the same information from him. 

If you say "nice moves old man" he introduces himself by name "If for no other reason than you never call me that again" hehe my city elf is such a smartass...and she has that soundset that sounds like a bubble brain, but it orks for her.

[SurelyForth]

nranola wrote...

This screenshot bears repeating, I think.



Alistair: WHO IS SHE TALKING TOOOO :crying:

At least it's obvious that she's just talking and not possibly doing...other things through the bars.

[errant_knight]

SurelyForth wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

 Ia Alistair amusing when he comes to rescue you?

IMO, he's the least amusing of all the companions during that part. My guess is that, since he's probably the least likely to be available for the rescue, he got less writing attention than the others. He still has his funny moments, but it's nothing exceptional. 

Hmmm.... That's a long time and a lot of fighting to go without Alistair if his dialogue isn't all that good.... What does he say when he opens the cage--something snarky about Anora, I imagine.

Modifié par errant_knight, 02 mai 2010 - 04:19 .

[Merilsell]

The most amusing thing is the little talk between Morrigan and Alistair before meeting the captain.



Ali: I can't believe that worked.

Morri: Me neither. Your acting skills are atrocious." xD



Others than that Alistair's dialogue is pretty bland.

[nranola]

Just checked the toolset. It's the same response regardless of whether the PC is in a romance with him or not. Though as great it is to think Alistair comes to your rescue, I much prefer what he says if Anora turns you in to Cauthrien and he was with you:

PC: I'm going to strangle Anora when we get out.
Alistair: Do you mind if I pin her down while you do? Or perhaps kick her?

x'DD

Modifié par nranola, 02 mai 2010 - 04:27 .

[errant_knight]

Merilsell wrote...

The most amusing thing is the little talk between Morrigan and Alistair before meeting the captain.

Ali: I can't believe that worked.
Morri: Me neither. Your acting skills are atrocious." xD

Others than that Alistair's dialogue is pretty bland.

Too bad. There was a lot of opportunity there. Ah, well. I think I'll keep him with me.
Oh. I need to post a picture, don't I? Just a sec while I find one and upload....


There ya go....

Modifié par errant_knight, 02 mai 2010 - 04:53 .