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nranola wrote...

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Hmm... that's interesting. I never remember getting any persuade nor intimidate options with Howe during my two playthroughs as a HNF. Which would be fail on her part, having gratuitous amounts of Cunning and all... '8D Will definitely need to play around the dialogue options in this run.

In your first dialogue choice, do you ask Howe why he betrayed your family?  IMO you get a more satisfying conversation, and even some approval bumps from party members like Morrigan and Zevran, if you go the snarkier route, i.e. "Glad to disappoint you.  It won't be the last time."

Yeah, I think I went for that option. The one where you ask why he betrayed your family having been friends, right? I'm still contemplating whether or not that would be true to her character; I play her as the witty wily sort, so I imagine she would have already put two and two together by then and there would be little point in asking the "whys". Might just go for that this time around, if only to hear that "look" line. xD


You get an approval bump from someone if you do that persuade and then pick the right response afterward. I can't remember which one--something noble leadery, as I recall. I can't remember who you get the approval from either....

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Addai67 wrote...

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Also, the villagers in Haven didn't attack me after I looked at the bloody altar, so it's weird to actually talk to and trade with the shopkeeper.  XD

Bloody altar??  Where is that?

I usually try to snoop around in the shop to provoke the conflict in Haven.  I figure my PC smells the body in the back and is suspicious.


When you get to Haven, just apst the guard there's a house on the left.  Go in and there's a bloody altar.

cmessa:  People giving you sh*it now?  Lemme at 'em!

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LadyDamodred wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

Also, the villagers in Haven didn't attack me after I looked at the bloody altar, so it's weird to actually talk to and trade with the shopkeeper.  XD

Bloody altar??  Where is that?

I usually try to snoop around in the shop to provoke the conflict in Haven.  I figure my PC smells the body in the back and is suspicious.


When you get to Haven, just apst the guard there's a house on the left.  Go in and there's a bloody altar.

cmessa:  People giving you sh*it now?  Lemme at 'em!

Just that one comment on nexus. And it's a stupid comment. Morrgan's tent is where ALL the scenes take place. And while I agree that the "My Dear" isn't ideal, it doesn't make me want to get rid of all the great fixes and tmp's scenes just to get rid of it.

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nranola wrote...

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LOL I had actually forgotten how much I adore Bryce! What a wonderful NPC! My favorite scene with him is him getting between an armed/armored Duncan and staring him down at the thought of taking his "pup" to be a GW. I see where the PC gets "The Look" Howe found so intimidating from. (and mention it in my fan fic)

Where does Howe mention it? I don't remember coming across it in the game, but it's most likely because I made different dialogue choices.

Papa Couslaaand... ;3; Is it just me, or does he sound more affectionate when addressing a daughter than a son in the origin story? I could be wrong as I've only witnessed the initial conversation on a HNM, but from there I could detect a greater sense of adoration from his tone with a HNF. Yes? No? Just me?


I feel it too.  My Cousland's are totally Daddy's girls. 

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cmessaz wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

Also, the villagers in Haven didn't attack me after I looked at the bloody altar, so it's weird to actually talk to and trade with the shopkeeper.  XD

Bloody altar??  Where is that?

I usually try to snoop around in the shop to provoke the conflict in Haven.  I figure my PC smells the body in the back and is suspicious.


When you get to Haven, just apst the guard there's a house on the left.  Go in and there's a bloody altar.

cmessa:  People giving you sh*it now?  Lemme at 'em!

Just that one comment on nexus. And it's a stupid comment. Morrgan's tent is where ALL the scenes take place. And while I agree that the "My Dear" isn't ideal, it doesn't make me want to get rid of all the great fixes and tmp's scenes just to get rid of it.


What's the nexus link?  I failed to bookmark, apparently.  *grumbles at stupid people*

Modifié par LadyDamodred, 04 mai 2010 - 05:20 .


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They probably are going to give me a bad endorsement thingie because of my reply. But I tried to be civil. Here is the link
http://dragonagenexu...ile.php?id=1166

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Lady Jess wrote...

Well this just isn't right...

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Awww thanks LadyDamodred!

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cmessaz wrote...

Awww thanks LadyDamodred!


You're welcome.  Sh*t like that irritates me.  You're gonna get rid of the whole damn thing over 1 line?  1 line that the writers friggin' wanted in there?  Wth?

I'm okay with adding the extra lines for the sex scenes, but I draw the line at changing actual dialogue.

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Wait, so someone was complaining about your mod.... but mostly about the parts that the developers put in? Sigh.

I slept like a rock, TST must have knocked me out from boredom because my TV was still on and so was my laptop. I didn't even remember falling asleep, the book was still open but the pages are all crumpled because I slept on it.

I guess I'll just have to be grateful DAO isn't a book. -_-

Modifié par yukidama, 04 mai 2010 - 05:44 .


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Ok, I just imported my warrior CEF into Awakening and the strangest thing happened. No darkspawn. Zip, zilch, nada. Not outside, not inside. Makes me wonder why the heck I'm there. Also...makes the conversation rather akward.

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AnniLau wrote...

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Bloody altar??  Where is that?


First house on the left, I believe.

Oh wow, the one with the chests that has the Correspondus Interruptus letter and stuff?

The things I wouldn't know if I didn't come on this forum.

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LadyDamodred wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Awww thanks LadyDamodred!


You're welcome.  Sh*t like that irritates me.  You're gonna get rid of the whole damn thing over 1 line?  1 line that the writers friggin' wanted in there?  Wth?

I'm okay with adding the extra lines for the sex scenes, but I draw the line at changing actual dialogue.

Thats what I'm uncomfortable with. I think maybe it's the way he says it that gets people. I think it's just fine and would prefer to leave it alone. Maybe I'll create an optional file or something, but again not my primary concern. The thing that gets me is the oh no I'm in Morrigan's tent thing. You are in the vanilla scene too! They just made sure you can't tell in that one. I like the fire in the background, I think it's romantic. And they have obviously never used BSC if they are going to complain about the PC's facial expressions.

Modifié par cmessaz, 04 mai 2010 - 05:45 .


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cmessaz wrote...

They probably are going to give me a bad endorsement thingie because of my reply. But I tried to be civil. Here is the link
http://dragonagenexu...ile.php?id=1166

Logic and fairness is just not a strong suit with some people.  Some days in my job, I put it down to most people.

Drat it all, DA Nexus is not letting me log in.  That site has more errors, I swear...  I'll try this from home.  I was thinking I need to put some endorsements up for mods I like, yours definitely being one.

Modifié par Addai67, 04 mai 2010 - 05:49 .


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Addai67 wrote...

AnniLau wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Bloody altar??  Where is that?


First house on the left, I believe.

Oh wow, the one with the chests that has the Correspondus Interruptus letter and stuff?

The things I wouldn't know if I didn't come on this forum.

I discovered that as well recently. Take dog, he is funny.

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Addai67 wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

They probably are going to give me a bad endorsement thingie because of my reply. But I tried to be civil. Here is the link
http://dragonagenexu...ile.php?id=1166

Logic and fairness is just not a strong suit with some people.  Some days in my job, I put it down to most people.

So I've noticed. When I worked for DirecTV in customer service, yeah......I realized just how "illogical" people can be.

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LadyDamodred wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Awww thanks LadyDamodred!


You're welcome.  Sh*t like that irritates me.  You're gonna get rid of the whole damn thing over 1 line?  1 line that the writers friggin' wanted in there?  Wth?

I'm okay with adding the extra lines for the sex scenes, but I draw the line at changing actual dialogue.


I agree. I always miss the "your deesire is my command" line when it goes away. But they have to delineate SOME how the change from fling to relationship. The only line I'd like to actually see changed once you're at that relationship is the 2nd one. If you are in a relationship, and it's to the point of "something you need my dear" then he shouldn't sound so nervous when you want to discuss something private. that should have changed when it went from "your desire" to "something you need" because of the comfort level implied at that point. If the writers were going to change one, the other should have been changd as well. Maybe even put "your desire is my command" in that slot, because it would make complete sense.

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cmessaz wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

They probably are going to give me a bad endorsement thingie because of my reply. But I tried to be civil. Here is the link
http://dragonagenexu...ile.php?id=1166

Logic and fairness is just not a strong suit with some people.  Some days in my job, I put it down to most people.

So I've noticed. When I worked for DirecTV in customer service, yeah......I realized just how "illogical" people can be.


Screw em. Your mod is awesome!

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Lady Jess wrote...

I agree. I always miss the "your deesire is my command" line when it goes away. But they have to delineate SOME how the change from fling to relationship.

Is there any indication in the toolset why this line sounds so matter-of-fact?  I've heard interpretation that it means he is distancing himself.

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cmessaz wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Awww thanks LadyDamodred!


You're welcome.  Sh*t like that irritates me.  You're gonna get rid of the whole damn thing over 1 line?  1 line that the writers friggin' wanted in there?  Wth?

I'm okay with adding the extra lines for the sex scenes, but I draw the line at changing actual dialogue.

Thats what I'm uncomfortable with. I think maybe it's the way he says it that gets people. I think it's just fine and would prefer to leave it alone. Maybe I'll create an optional file or something, but again not my primary concern. The thing that gets me is the oh no I'm in Morrigan's tent thing. You are in the vanilla scene too! They just made sure you can't tell in that one. I like the fire in the background, I think it's romantic. And they have obviously never used BSC if they are going to complain about the PC's facial expressions.


Yeah no kidding...case in point...
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Hey, Lady Jess, I actually like that idea. I have to rebuild the ENTIRE mod, but once I get to that point I will take a look at if that would be possible, if enough people agree. I will also be adding more kisses prior to the archdemon killing scene, and will be making an attempt at adding kiss scenes prior to each custscene. I'm thinking I may just add BSC mild and not the others, since people are liking the "romantic not porn" thing. Plus, there really is no use for elves, since BSC only really covers the human female and Alistair. I don't like the elf one, things don't line up.

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Addai67 wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

I agree. I always miss the "your deesire is my command" line when it goes away. But they have to delineate SOME how the change from fling to relationship.

Is there any indication in the toolset why this line sounds so matter-of-fact?  I've heard interpretation that it means he is distancing himself.

It says that he is unsure of what "we need to talk" means. He's nervous about what she will say. If you go to the VO comments, it tells the actor what to convey when they speak the line. I guess he did a good job voicing the line, but I guess I just don't get that feeling when I hear it.

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Addai67 wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

I agree. I always miss the "your deesire is my command" line when it goes away. But they have to delineate SOME how the change from fling to relationship.

Is there any indication in the toolset why this line sounds so matter-of-fact?  I've heard interpretation that it means he is distancing himself.


It just says "warm" same for your desire is my command. I am pretty sure it just shows the relationship has changed, and he's comfortable.

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Slightly amusing that my AW can solo the High Dragon on Nightmare mode.  It took forever to do though.  I had to use a few Lyrium Potions so, I could keep healing myself w/ Prayer.
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I was running Combat Magic, Ethereal Armor, Arcane Shield, Rock Armor and Frost Weapons.  I still also had Haste and Armor of Kings on from Morrigan standing back at the temple doorway. 
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Good way to start Ritual Dismemberment Tuesday though.

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