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[Axekix]

Gilsa wrote...

Well ... you can probably kill Morrigan if that's any consolation.

Or make her your new broodmother! <3

[Serissia]

Sandtigress wrote...
I'm still gunning for him getting up and skewering you.  I would stand up and cheer as my darkspawn fell!

I suppose it's possible but the interview says that you stab him through the head.  Even in an age of magic I doubt he'd get up from that kind of injury. 

[Sandtigress]

tmp7704 wrote...

Sandtigress wrote...

I'm actually really interested in the alternate perspective this grants.  I just....I just don't think I can bring myself to kill Alistair!  *clings*  Maybe if I let one of my minions do it and turn around so I can't see and just hope hope hope they don't cut-scene it?

I don't think there's any alternate perspective this piece brings, that you cannot get already simply by getting your team killed in the Denerim fight. That's basically the whole difference compared to the core game.

In addition i can't help but think this DLC is hardly going to make people feel their darkspawn is 'powerful' and whatnot when the progression in it actually hinges on the Wardens being able to beat the snot out of the darkspawn all way to the archdemon. It's really poorly selected for what they're trying to achieve with it.

I can actually see where they're coming from for this - in the "real" timeline, the Warden prevents the complete destruction of Denerim.  In the AU, you'll be successful at destroying the Alienage, etc. and the emotional impact would be from you witnessing what you were able to prevent.

And there probably will be a different sensation coming to the archdemon's rescue instead of the other way around.  I think for me at least it will be an interesting twist on things.  It's the killing Alistair part that I'm really struggling with.  I don't even mind so much killing the rest of the party - in fact, I've done it on various occasions with most of them.

But I can't even stand playing my blood mage who hates Alistair and makes him sad, and I've never done the Warden Commander achievement because I can't bear to let him sacrifice himself.  So actually killing him....I'm just going to have to close my eyes and apologize over and over and over and over again, and then maybe write something happy and fluffy for him.  

[Sandtigress]

Serissia wrote...

Sandtigress wrote...
I'm still gunning for him getting up and skewering you.  I would stand up and cheer as my darkspawn fell!

I suppose it's possible but the interview says that you stab him through the head.  Even in an age of magic I doubt he'd get up from that kind of injury. 

It's a misleading line, I say!  They only want you to think you can triumph, but Alistair in all his manly wonderfulness will prevail!  /denial

[nranola]

Axekix wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

Well ... you can probably kill Morrigan if that's any consolation.

Or make her your new broodmother! <3

I remember someone starting up a thread speculating that Morrigan was in fact The Mother. I bet s/he'd be absolutely thrilled. The possibilities...! <3

[cmessaz]

Back on the topic of this thread, here is an Alistair looking 21ish like he is supposed to be

^Or close at least.

Modifié par cmessaz, 06 mai 2010 - 12:03 .

[errant_knight]

Merilsell wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Oh I don't know if I can actually play this way

Where's that picture of the kitty going Nooooooo!
We need that now.

There you go:





Sorry for the out of context (sp?) post -- I'm still busy catching the last two days up here, you posting-like crazy- bunch <3

Thanks! It was worth the wait. I'm always out of context, or replying to things from hours before. This thread just goes too fast to do otherwise.

[Lady Jess]

Sandtigress wrote...

Serissia wrote...

I'm kinda shocked that they gave away that you actually kill Alistair in the trailer/interview.  I mean there's no surprise now. 

I'm still gunning for him getting up and skewering you.  I would stand up and cheer as my darkspawn fell!

I kinda am too. It said what if you failed the joining. It never said you WIN the DLC. Well it may have, I just didn't see it, but something has to explain a sword magically appearing in your inventory...lol

On the upside, if Alistair is the final boss and a badass mofo to kill, maybe the haters will STFU about him being a wuss after he kicks their arses a few times. Clearly it's going to take you, an army, AND an Arch Demon to take him out.

[Sarah1281]

cmessaz wrote...

Oh I don't know if I can actually play this way

He definitely needs to lose the sideburns.

[Addai]

Lady Jess wrote...

On the upside, if Alistair is the final boss and a badass mofo to kill, maybe the haters will STFU about him being a wuss after he kicks their arses a few times.

No, they'll just say that it's OOC and Alistair couldn't wipe his arse without their PC, etc. ad nauseum.

[cmessaz]

Sarah, yeah I got rid of it for that reason. Otherwise it was hot.

[Axekix]

Lady Jess wrote...

On the upside, if Alistair is the final boss and a badass mofo to kill, maybe the haters will STFU about him being a wuss after he kicks their arses a few times. Clearly it's going to take you, an army, AND an Arch Demon to take him out.

Well he has Morrigan  backing him so naturally it'll be tough. 

Modifié par Axekix, 06 mai 2010 - 12:08 .

[Commander of the Grey]

Lady Jess wrote...

Sandtigress wrote...

Serissia wrote...

I'm kinda shocked that they gave away that you actually kill Alistair in the trailer/interview.  I mean there's no surprise now. 

I'm still gunning for him getting up and skewering you.  I would stand up and cheer as my darkspawn fell!

I kinda am too. It said what if you failed the joining. It never said you WIN the DLC. Well it may have, I just didn't see it, but something has to explain a sword magically appearing in your inventory...lol

On the upside, if Alistair is the final boss and a badass mofo to kill, maybe the haters will STFU about him being a wuss after he kicks their arses a few times. Clearly it's going to take you, an army, AND an Arch Demon to take him out.

THIS ^  + 100        If I decide to get it, I'll be rooting for the good guys the whole time. 

[cmessaz]

I know what we need! More of THE BEARD!
Anoraduncan

[tmp7704]

Sandtigress wrote...

I can actually see where they're coming from for this - in the "real" timeline, the Warden prevents the complete destruction of Denerim.  In the AU, you'll be successful at destroying the Alienage, etc. and the emotional impact would be from you witnessing what you were able to prevent.

Based on that designer interview i think they're after something much simpler -- to give the player visceral feel and satisfaction of being able to burn the **** down. And i just don't think it's going to really work out like that for them. Because having played the very same fight already from the other side the player has it firmly in their mind that even if the Alienage gets destroyed etc, what happens next is the Wardens come and stomp the darkspawn flat on their way to archdemon up in the tower. And they can't change that even with the "alternate universe" schtick because if the final fight with the archdemon is to happen, then it means the Wardens must beat the darkspawn on their way there. And that's the one fight you might be allowed to actually win, but i wonder if it won't be "too little, too late".

[Addai]

Sandtigress wrote...

For people not on twitter, the video for Darkspawn Chronicles and an interview with the lead designer is up now.

Well, no surprises here.

Alistair gets killed ("kill the Warden King"), it's a "visceral experience" (too bad for those of us who prefer cerebral), and the darkspawn win, because clearly your PC is a god on earth and humanity can't survive without her.

*shakes head*

[cmessaz]

Addai67 wrote...

Sandtigress wrote...

For people not on twitter, the video for Darkspawn Chronicles and an interview with the lead designer is up now.

Well, no surprises here.

Alistair gets killed ("kill the Warden King"), it's a "visceral experience" (too bad for those of us who prefer cerebral), and the darkspawn win, because clearly your PC is a god on earth and humanity can't survive without her.

*shakes head*

Yet my game still CTD with every AoE spell and roque bombs. Sad indeed to see where their priorities are.

[Thor Rand Al]

Serissia wrote...

Sandtigress wrote...
I'm still gunning for him getting up and skewering you.  I would stand up and cheer as my darkspawn fell!

I suppose it's possible but the interview says that you stab him through the head.  Even in an age of magic I doubt he'd get up from that kind of injury. 

It's through the heart not the head, "When you come to the archdemon's aid in the final hour and drive your blade through the heart of the Warden King,"

http://www.gamespot....0&mode=previews

[Serissia]

[tmp7704]

Lady Jess wrote...

On the upside, if Alistair is the final boss and a badass mofo to kill, maybe the haters will STFU about him being a wuss after he kicks their arses a few times. Clearly it's going to take you, an army, AND an Arch Demon to take him out.

Must say i'd laugh my behind off if they made the followers simply unkillable by giving them the usual player tactics -- chug the unlimited amounts of health/mana pots, mana-clash any spell caster you try to bring against them and dps the trolls into oblivion, always interrupting and grab attempts etc.

Talk about getting taste of one's own medicine

[Lady Jess]

Grr my excitement about having Vigilance in origins just ended. the stupid thing disappears when I save and go back.

[Sarah1281]

Addai67 wrote...

Sandtigress wrote...

For people not on twitter, the video for Darkspawn Chronicles and an interview with the lead designer is up now.

Well, no surprises here.

Alistair gets killed ("kill the Warden King"), it's a "visceral experience" (too bad for those of us who prefer cerebral), and the darkspawn win, because clearly your PC is a god on earth and humanity can't survive without her.

*shakes head*

Does it really say Alistair's pathetic if he gets mobbed by dozens of darkspawn and taken down, especially if he has no mage? Those numbers are just ridiculous and it is, quite frankly, a miracle that they actually manage to win in Origins.

[cmessaz]

Yes Serissia! We must change the subject with the power of THE BEARD.

[Sarah1281]

Serissia wrote...

Why?!?!

[Thor Rand Al]

cmessaz wrote...

Back on the topic of this thread, here is an Alistair looking 21ish like he is supposed to be

^Or close at least.

What armor is that


Top of the page again lmao

Modifié par Thor Rand Al, 06 mai 2010 - 12:20 .