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[shedevil3001]

i'm on testing your mod with the ser gilmore mod in and a few other mods

[Lady Jess]

I'm staring at my Dalish, and considering her options. Also looking at my elven mage. Both are in romances with Alistair. Now, I can easily rp the mage getting all "screw this, you either accept me as your queen after everything I did, and make things change or I'm out"



But I can't find the rp to make my Dalish his mistress. I get as far as "well I lost love once I'm not doing it again, clan, reputation, and politics be damned" but I'm not sold on it. Then again, I haven't had the shriek attack yet, and I know there's something specific to Dalish in there. Something that was said to me in the Dalish camp might help. That my father was encouraging the Dalish to get more involved with human society, being chancellor would be a step towards that I suppose.

[Addai]

Lady Jess wrote...
But I can't find the rp to make my Dalish his mistress. I get as far as "well I lost love once I'm not doing it again, clan, reputation, and politics be damned" but I'm not sold on it. Then again, I haven't had the shriek attack yet, and I know there's something specific to Dalish in there. Something that was said to me in the Dalish camp might help. That my father was encouraging the Dalish to get more involved with human society, being chancellor would be a step towards that I suppose.

I played my DEF as being decently poised in the political realm.  She was more comfortable being kingmaker than my CEF, for instance.  I based this off the idea that the Dalish keepers were the nobility of Arlathan, and they still maintain this kind of pride and dignity.  Kind of like exiled princes.  So after a fashion, my DEF was much like Alistair- a princess without a kingdom who had grown up in the rough but was coming into her own.

[cmessaz]

OK, with the Morrigan resoration patch, the party_camp will conflict with my optional break up file. Also my optional epiloque fix will conflict. But as far as the main file, I don't see any problems.

Modifié par cmessaz, 10 mai 2010 - 05:05 .

[sylvanaerie]

cmessaz wrote...

OK guys, I need to make a more detailed list of the things my mod fixes with Alistair, because people are overlooking it because they don 't realize the fixes. Maybe I should change the name too, any suggestions?

I suck at naming things.  Took me over a week to name the horse in my fic.  Maybe "Alistair Dialog and Romance fix"? 

[cmessaz]

sylvanaerie wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

OK guys, I need to make a more detailed list of the things my mod fixes with Alistair, because people are overlooking it because they don 't realize the fixes. Maybe I should change the name too, any suggestions?

I suck at naming things.  Took me over a week to name the horse in my fic.  Maybe "Alistair Dialog and Romance fix"? 

I suck at naming things to, hench pee pee and the butt for the cats.  But that sounds ok... I guess I need to get the mod up first.

[shedevil3001]

i can't wait to see it cmessaz i'm glad you're working on an alistair fix he's my fave dao companion, it's so annoying when you play a game that is buggy and the devs don't make patches to fix major bugs

[Lady Jess]

Addai67 wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...
But I can't find the rp to make my Dalish his mistress. I get as far as "well I lost love once I'm not doing it again, clan, reputation, and politics be damned" but I'm not sold on it. Then again, I haven't had the shriek attack yet, and I know there's something specific to Dalish in there. Something that was said to me in the Dalish camp might help. That my father was encouraging the Dalish to get more involved with human society, being chancellor would be a step towards that I suppose.

I played my DEF as being decently poised in the political realm.  She was more comfortable being kingmaker than my CEF, for instance.  I based this off the idea that the Dalish keepers were the nobility of Arlathan, and they still maintain this kind of pride and dignity.  Kind of like exiled princes.  So after a fashion, my DEF was much like Alistair- a princess without a kingdom who had grown up in the rough but was coming into her own.

Yeah, that actually makes sense. I should be thinking about it as being Chancellor more than the mistress implication. Lyra would be in a good position to help not just her clan, but all the Dalish clans of Ferelden. Also, I'm not convinced the Dalish have strict beliefs about sex and marriage. Cammen says "bond with" Gheyna. It seems like they just form monogomous partnerships in that regard. Which Lyra and Alistair already have on the road, so why should it change.

Celeste on the other hand I think can let him end it, she's the type thats taken quite enough of not being accepted. She wasn't accepted at the tower by the other apprentices because they were jealous of her talents, she gets crap from every town and village because she's a mage, even though she's helping them, Alistair not accepting it because of duty is just too much. Zevran  will always accept her no matter what.

Hy thanks! my head feels clearer now!

Gratuitous Barbarian Prince!

[cmessaz]

shedevil3001 wrote...

i can't wait to see it cmessaz i'm glad you're working on an alistair fix he's my fave dao companion, it's so annoying when you play a game that is buggy and the devs don't make patches to fix major bugs

OMG that is why I agree with sylvanearie about the bong water. Some of the mistakes in the dialogue are horrendous. I was working on this for hours last night. It's like they figured that everyone would make Alistair king.

[Addai]

Lady Jess wrote...
Yeah, that actually makes sense. I should be thinking about it as being Chancellor more than the mistress implication. Lyra would be in a good position to help not just her clan, but all the Dalish clans of Ferelden. Also, I'm not convinced the Dalish have strict beliefs about sex and marriage. Cammen says "bond with" Gheyna. It seems like they just form monogomous partnerships in that regard. Which Lyra and Alistair already have on the road, so why should it change.

Yes, why should a Dalish elf care whether or not the Chantry recognizes her relationship to her mate?  OTOH, you can't discount how hard a proud woman will take being whispered about as the king's elven wh*re.  It is part of the cost that my DEF counts, however.  She came to consider the Grey Wardens her clan, and thus basically her clan is... Alistair.  She was not going to give him up, even if she's willing to share him for the greater good.

Gratuitous Barbarian Prince!

*sizzle*

[Addai]

cmessaz wrote...

shedevil3001 wrote...

i can't wait to see it cmessaz i'm glad you're working on an alistair fix he's my fave dao companion, it's so annoying when you play a game that is buggy and the devs don't make patches to fix major bugs

OMG that is why I agree with sylvanearie about the bong water. Some of the mistakes in the dialogue are horrendous. I was working on this for hours last night. It's like they figured that everyone would make Alistair king.

This actually makes me hope it will end up as canon.

[cmessaz]

Addai- I don't know for sure if I want that. I was REALLY looking forward to having him as a fellow GW in Awakening when it was announced. I guess that is part of the reason I was so disappointed in it. But no, they made mistakes in the dialogue, it wasn't intentional. They put the wrong flags in so many places. It's a big tangled mess. It is typical of EA to push things out, then charge us for useless content. I'm not fond of them as a company, though they have released some great games.

[shedevil3001]

me too as alistair makes the better ruler imho plus hn is my ultimate fave origin the plot is better the family is more gripping and loveable and then theres tim curry voicing howe, awesome

[cmessaz]

shedevil3001 wrote...

me too as alistair makes the better ruler imho plus hn is my ultimate fave origin the plot is better the family is more gripping and loveable and then theres tim curry voicing howe, awesome

Oh I agree. But as others in this thread will tell you, I hate the mistress idea. I have honestly only completed the game with 2 elves, one dalish who romanced Zevran, and  a CE where Alistair did the US. I had one mage who was his mistress, because I RPed her different. But most of the time I go with GW Alistair or marry him as a HNF. I hate putting the Ice Queen on the throne, but oh well.

Modifié par cmessaz, 10 mai 2010 - 05:35 .

[nos_astra]

You're all such softies! 

*picks up her little Alistair voodoo doll to make him suffer*

Loghain deserves a chance to redeem himself... No, WAIT, don't hit me! I bruise easily!

Modifié par klarabella, 10 mai 2010 - 05:38 .

[Lady Jess]

Grr double post goblins...*appeases them with Alistair

Modifié par Lady Jess, 10 mai 2010 - 05:43 .

[Lady Jess]

Addai67 wrote...

Yes, why should a Dalish elf care whether or not the Chantry recognizes her relationship to her mate?  OTOH, you can't discount how hard a proud woman will take being whispered about as the king's elven wh*re.  It is part of the cost that my DEF counts, however.  She came to consider the Grey Wardens her clan, and thus basically her clan is... Alistair.  She was not going to give him up, even if she's willing to share him for the greater good.

My girl is just cocky enough to believe the whispers nothing more than jealousy. The jealousy of nobility that will never see their ugly daughters wed to the king (because I'm sorry, I do not see a hardened Alistair marrying for duty, when he's in love), and the bitterness of commoners that can't tolerate an elf in a position of power. Besides, she's quite good with a bow...a few mysterios arrows to the backside never hurt anyone *looks innocent* they sometimes  get loose during training.:innocent:

The boards hate me today!

Modifié par Lady Jess, 10 mai 2010 - 05:44 .

[shedevil3001]

klarabella wrote...

You're all such softies! 

*picks up her little Alistair voodoo doll to make him suffer*

Loghain deserves a chance to redeem himself... No, WAIT, don't hit me! I bruise easily!

i let loghain live twice purely to see the storyline but omg i felt like crying for poor alistair, he just doesnt deserve to be betrayed by our warden when he's been so loyal to us all the way through "cringes at the thought of betrayal"  nope i leave the betrayal thing to loghain, after all hes a master at it "off with his head"

[Serissia]

The Alistair in clown pants confuses me.

Modifié par Serissia, 10 mai 2010 - 05:56 .

[shedevil3001]

me too but it doesnt take much to confuse me :}

[cmessaz]

Serissa- Yeah thats why I posted it, I was hoping someone could make sense of it for me. Good I feel like less of a donkey.

[shedevil3001]

i've read alot of posts, i didn't realize there was so many alistair haters out there, i was completely shocked, how anyone could hate him is crazy to me, hes awesome, mind i dont dislike any of the characters in dao

[cmessaz]

shedevil3001 wrote...

i've read alot of posts, i didn't realize there was so many alistair haters out there, i was completely shocked, how anyone could hate him is crazy to me, hes awesome, mind i dont dislike any of the characters in dao

What I find funny: Alistair lovers don't mind Zevran. He isn't their favorite, but they like him. Zevran lovers tend to HATE Alistair, I just don't get it.

[Addai]

Serissia wrote...

The Alistair in clown pants confuses me.

The ubiquitous Alicorn equally confuses me, but whatever.

[cmessaz]

Alicorn is SEXY. Hey guys, with that elf pic you posted, is that prior to making love? I want to make sure I associate the correct kiss with the dialogue.

Modding misadventures number 2 Check out Lel's face

Modifié par cmessaz, 10 mai 2010 - 06:11 .