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Alistair, post-coronation... and/or Alistair gush thread (Origins/Awakening Spoilers)


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Sarah1281 wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

If just renoucing his claim weren't enough, though, why would Anora let him leave?

The Landsmeet could, I suppose, re-legitimize him for the throne just as they can legitimize his claim in Origins.  In the case of Anora dying without an heir, why would that not be a viable option, as opposed to the teyrnirs duking it out for the top spot?

If Alistair is exiled, though, any children he might have would be foreign and I'm not sure the Landsmeet would accept that so easily. And if he stays with the Wardens I'm not sure he would anyway. If it's a game with the Warden as a LI he won't have children with her (and if he did, unless maybe the Warden were a human mage and the child didn't have magic or a Cousland, they couldn't take the throne anyway). If not, he'd have to find a nice non-Warden to try and settle down with knowing he has decreased fertility, won't be around as often as she'd like due to Warden duties, and is going to wander off to Orzammar one day and not come back which might not be very likely.


If Alistair is exiled, this particular dialog will not be in the game.

Edit: I will be the first to admit that this fix isn't perfect.  But all you would have to do is take one look at the way it's all set up to begin with and realize even getting rid of everything BUT this was pretty monumental (I'm actually pretty proud of the work around I came up with).  And it could be taken out.  But that would be done by taking out the option of telling him about the child.

There is one other alternative I can think of, but it would be a major amount of work, and it wouldn't solve him then asking Morrigan about the child and her plans for it.  It's not an out of line concern, really, even though he renounced his claim to the throne.

Modifié par ejoslin, 10 mai 2010 - 09:16 .


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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

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I don't think so. Share? With ISOLDE????? I'd sooner share with the Architect. At least his voice is sexy.


The Architect;'s voice makes sharing the Mother with him more tolerable.

BTW, who here thought that the Architect / Father and The Mother were a really disfunctional couple?


Would have been more interesting if they had acted like Al and Peggy Bundy.  I would have had more fun killing them. 

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Huzzah, the master had justly spoken in the Morrigan thread :wizard:...and I thought I'd take it over to here. It's regarding DAO: 2 and the expectations thereof, of course:

David Gaider wrote...

tom2504 wrote...
But because of the way the game ended - like you said - it should understandable for people to build up the sequel in their head and keep remaining characters, plots and what-not in it. I don't believe It's myopic at all, considering DAO's ending.

Well, all I'm saying is that there are many possibilities. Continuing the storyline with the same characters and same continuity has its advantages, certainly, but also its drawbacks -- many of which people have already outlined. Selecting a canon timeline or simply starting with something completely different also has its advantages and drawbacks. It can seem a little bit like "damned if you do, damned if you don't" but ultimately I'd like to think there are a lot of ways we could go, and each of them has things which make that choice attractive to me as a writer.

Naturally leaving plot threads dangling is not the best way to go, in my opinion, but it should also be realized that the point of a new story should not and could not be solely to resolve dangling plot threads. As enticing as those may be, they're a tool we have available to use in the future in order to make a better story -- the commitment I'm seeing to them is certainly complementary (it's nice to see that fans care that much) but whenever we're discussing any element of Origin's story you need to realize that it's only part of the story... and that for many fans it may not even be a big part of it.

In the end, we recognize that it's there and people will want to see more. I can't really say more than that. I don't advocate writer-borne cruelty to fans-- not unless the tears that result are really sweet. Then I might be tempted. ;)


Edit: typos :bandit:

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mellifera

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AFWEKJHWAKLNCJWr AHAHAHAH I can't... what the hell did I just watch? I can't even.... ahahahaa. I really do not want to see any more of these BSC scenes, oh my god.

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Merilsell wrote...

Huzzah, the master has spoken in the Morrigan thread..and I thought I took it over to here. It's regarding DAO: 2 and the expectations thereof, of course:


Huzzah?  That post seems to heavily imply a possible break from the DAO storyline and Morrigan in DA2.  That's nothing to celebrate :crying:

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Well it doesn't imply I'm happy about its content, it rather implies I'm happy to see Mr. Gaider around here again.

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Merilsell wrote...

Huzzah, the master had justly spoken in the Morrigan thread :wizard:...and I thought I'd take it over to here. It's regarding DAO: 2 and the expectations thereof, of course:

David Gaider wrote...

tom2504 wrote...
But because of the way the game ended - like you said - it should understandable for people to build up the sequel in their head and keep remaining characters, plots and what-not in it. I don't believe It's myopic at all, considering DAO's ending.

Well, all I'm saying is that there are many possibilities. Continuing the storyline with the same characters and same continuity has its advantages, certainly, but also its drawbacks -- many of which people have already outlined. Selecting a canon timeline or simply starting with something completely different also has its advantages and drawbacks. It can seem a little bit like "damned if you do, damned if you don't" but ultimately I'd like to think there are a lot of ways we could go, and each of them has things which make that choice attractive to me as a writer.

Naturally leaving plot threads dangling is not the best way to go, in my opinion, but it should also be realized that the point of a new story should not and could not be solely to resolve dangling plot threads. As enticing as those may be, they're a tool we have available to use in the future in order to make a better story -- the commitment I'm seeing to them is certainly complementary (it's nice to see that fans care that much) but whenever we're discussing any element of Origin's story you need to realize that it's only part of the story... and that for many fans it may not even be a big part of it.

In the end, we recognize that it's there and people will want to see more. I can't really say more than that. I don't advocate writer-borne cruelty to fans-- not unless the tears that result are really sweet. Then I might be tempted. ;)


Edit: typos :bandit:


Yay for non-answers. This just makes me nervous, lol.

How about some love for the Alistair thread, Mr. Gaider? :whistle: Haha.

Modifié par yukidama, 10 mai 2010 - 09:20 .


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Merilsell, you are just jealus that David Gaider didn't bother posting anything in this thread, but did in the Morrigan Thread. Na na na na naaaaaaaa

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I think he peeks in here from time to time and grins...or shakes his head. It depends xD

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Merilsell, you are just jealus that David Gaider didn't bother posting anything in this thread, but did in the Morrigan Thread. Na na na na naaaaaaaa


Here I thought you were a gentleman...

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>.> If he's peeked, he's probably traumatized from all the naked booty shots. Lol

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Merilsell, you are just jealus that David Gaider didn't bother posting anything in this thread, but did in the Morrigan Thread. Na na na na naaaaaaaa


Alistair is so awesome we don't need David Gaider to post in here and reassure us.  ;)  Though if He did grace us with His presense, I would squee most suitably.

And chapter is to you.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Merilsell, you are just jealus that David Gaider didn't bother posting anything in this thread, but did in the Morrigan Thread. Na na na na naaaaaaaa


Nah.

I just wanted to share the (non) news.

Sorry for shattering your illusions. :P

Modifié par Merilsell, 10 mai 2010 - 09:27 .


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yukidama wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Merilsell, you are just jealus that David Gaider didn't bother posting anything in this thread, but did in the Morrigan Thread. Na na na na naaaaaaaa


Here I thought you were a gentleman...

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It was just a gentlemanly joke. Which spawned several responses, thus increased the number of posts in the thread. See? My intentions were noble and gentleman like.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 10 mai 2010 - 09:28 .


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LadyDamodred wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

I ALWAYS take the massive armor off before kisses.


This means I would have to find something else for her to wear.

You know, I wish, I really, really wish there were just ONE store in Ferelden that sold clothes!  Stick me and Alistair in some sexy duds before sexytimes.

IA. Anyway, yeah I'm leaving now.
Edit: or Winter Forge.


I dislike IA very much, at least going by what the images show.

Winter Forge, eh?  Maybe I'll give it a whirl.  Link?  ^_^


Its on the projects page here and has a LOT of downloads/positive comments.  It can be used to make your own custom armors and stuff but I usually just use it to upgrade tiers on earlier armors and make pretty clothes for my characters.


http://social.bioware.com/project/672/

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Alistairschica wrote...

>.> If he's peeked, he's probably traumatized from all the naked booty shots. Lol


Yeah, we seem to be good at posting those [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/blushing.png[/smilie]

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Speaking of which....someone post sum moar Ali-BOOTAY!



Yes, please!

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move along nothing to see (damn picture...looked soo innocent at first, lol)

Modifié par Merilsell, 10 mai 2010 - 09:33 .


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Lothering morphs are up on my project.  For the most part it's almost all minor changes.

Major Changes:
- Leliana now has darker hair and a beauty mark
- Sten now has scruff, eyebrows and a more natural skin tone
- all Chasind in Lothering now have facial tattoos

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yukidama wrote...

AFWEKJHWAKLNCJWr AHAHAHAH I can't... what the hell did I just watch? I can't even.... ahahahaa. I really do not want to see any more of these BSC scenes, oh my god.

LOL

Do not watch pixel porn, do not read smutty fanfics.  It's much better being a prude.

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yukidama wrote...

Alistairschica wrote...

>.> If he's peeked, he's probably traumatized from all the naked booty shots. Lol


Yeah, we seem to be good at posting those ../../../images/forum/emoticons/blushing.png


That's because the awesomeness of the booty can cut an Orge down from afar.  The sword is just for show.   Posted Image

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

yukidama wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Merilsell, you are just jealus that David Gaider didn't bother posting anything in this thread, but did in the Morrigan Thread. Na na na na naaaaaaaa


Here I thought you were a gentleman...

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It was just a gentlemanly joke. Which spawned several responses, thus increased the number of posts in the thread. See? My intentions were noble and gentleman like.


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Serissia wrote...

TMP if you swing by the thread...  Is there anyway to make this available for human females?
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This should be fairly straightforward to convert, but is most likely wind up pretty rigid looking once your character is in game and in motion, since there's no readily available way to animate these pigtails.

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Alistairschica wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Alistairschica wrote...

>.> If he's peeked, he's probably traumatized from all the naked booty shots. Lol


Yeah, we seem to be good at posting those ../../../images/forum/emoticons/blushing.png


That's because the awesomeness of the booty can cut an Orge down from afar.  The sword is just for show.   Posted Image

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Ooooooohhh...hell....yessss!!!!!!!!! it is the Shield Bashing Bootay of Doom!

Such a work of art....

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Addai67 wrote...

yukidama wrote...

AFWEKJHWAKLNCJWr AHAHAHAH I can't... what the hell did I just watch? I can't even.... ahahahaa. I really do not want to see any more of these BSC scenes, oh my god.

LOL

Do not watch pixel porn, do not read smutty fanfics.  It's much better being a prude.


Yeah, prude corner over here~

I couldn't deal with it. I think I turned purple in embarrassment.

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