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[cmessaz]

Axekix wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Do the party members comment about fighting themselves in the gaunlet for you guys? Because they don't for me!

I don't think I've ever heard any dialogue there.

Some of them are really cute, but I have never heard any of them, on PC or PS3.

[Serissia]

Addai67 wrote...
Eh, I'm prepared to see DA:O as a unique experience and don't expect it to be equaled, let alone by mass-market Star Wars stuff.  I don't even like the Star Wars series.  George Lucas is good at making interesting creatures, not so good at writing.  I've heard interviews where he said that people forget the movies are made for children, but that's hardly an excuse since children's literature can actually be good.  I would be more interested in maybe a Robert Heinlein world, if I had to play a spaceship game.

So, anyone know if a new Oblivion is planned?

If you're looking for another game I highly suggest Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura if you haven't played it.  The graphics are old school Fallout 2 style but the game none-the-less is excellent. 

[SurelyForth]

I think that having Alistair/Zevran step in on the female PC's behalf when Sten challenges her would be absolutely undermining her authority with Sten. He gets back in line because he respects your ability to stand against him. It would be the same thing if Alistair refused to let his LI duel Loghain, or even refused to let her leave him at the gates in Denerim.

It would also be pretty damned unfair to those of us who actually enjoy this mythological world where we get to pretend to be BAMF #1 to have to be saved by a Big, Strong Man because our avatar has boobs and is in a relationship.

Modifié par SurelyForth, 12 mai 2010 - 08:15 .

[errant_knight]

Axekix wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Do the party members comment about fighting themselves in the gaunlet for you guys? Because they don't for me!

I don't think I've ever heard any dialogue there.

Nope. I always thought they should because there's nothing in the whole game any more disturbing for my PC than killing Alistair's shade.

[errant_knight]

SurelyForth wrote...

I think that having Alistair/Zevran step in on the female PC's behalf when Sten challenges her would be absolutely undermining her authority with Sten. He gets back in line because he respects your ability to stand against him. It would be the same thing if Alistair refused to let his LI duel Loghain, or refused to let her leave him at the gates in Denerim.

It would also be pretty damned unfair to those of us who actually enjoy this mythological world where we get to pretend to be Bamf #1 to have to be saved by a Big, Strong Man because our avatar has boobs and is in a relationship.

Agreed, he can't step in. post fight would have been a nice place to add a little dialogue between Alistair and the PC about it. Wouldn't have to be romantic. A friendly Alistair would have been worried, too.

[Axekix]

SurelyForth wrote...

I think that having Alistair/Zevran step in on the female PC's behalf when Sten challenges her would be absolutely undermining her authority with Sten. He gets back in line because he respects your ability to stand against him. It would be the same thing if Alistair refused to let his LI duel Loghain, or even refused to let her leave him at the gates in Denerim.

It would also be pretty damned unfair to those of us who actually enjoy this mythological world where we get to pretend to be BAMF #1 to have to be saved by a Big, Strong Man because our avatar has boobs and is in a relationship.

Surely they could leave in an option to tell him to stfu and let you handle it.  The fact that he doesn't even try just seems lame, borderline OOC imo.

[Thor Rand Al]

errant_knight wrote...

Axekix wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Do the party members comment about fighting themselves in the gaunlet for you guys? Because they don't for me!

I don't think I've ever heard any dialogue there.

Nope. I always thought they should because there's nothing in the whole game any more disturbing for my PC than killing Alistair's shade.

Lmao I always let someone else kill Alistair's shade, my female pc's always think that's creepy killing their love interest's double.

[Addai]

errant_knight wrote...

There has to be more to it than that, because I've never had his sword quest done then. He gets a bit pissy about the ashes quest, but we chat a bit and he's accepting.

I think it's just related to his approval level.  You might have him at higher approval level, and he'll only challenge you verbally.  Either that, or you chose the Intimidate option.

Hint:  Pick the non-Intimidate shirty options like "you don't have any choice, I'm in charge" and "I'd like to see you try".  He gives high approval bumps for those.    After you kick his ass, that is.

Modifié par Addai67, 12 mai 2010 - 08:18 .

[cmessaz]

I will list the dialogue, if you guys want.

[Serissia]

cmessaz wrote...

I will list the dialogue, if you guys want.

Sounds interesting, I'd like to see.

[errant_knight]

Addai67 wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

There has to be more to it than that, because I've never had his sword quest done then. He gets a bit pissy about the ashes quest, but we chat a bit and he's accepting.

I think it's just related to his approval level.  You might have him at higher approval level, and he'll only challenge you verbally.  Either that, or you chose the Intimidate option.

Hint:  Pick the non-Intimidate shirty options like "you don't have any choice, I'm in charge" and "I'd like to see you try".  He gives high approval bumps for those.    After you kick his ass, that is.

Thanks for the hints! I've never tried those. I almost never use intimidate, so that wasn't it.... It must be approval or cunning....

[SurelyForth]

Axekix wrote...

Surely they could leave in an option to tell him to stfu and let you handle it.  The fact that he doesn't even try just seems lame, borderline OOC imo.

Not really OOC when he lets you run the show and seems to genuinely respect your abilities as warrior. The only time he interferes on the PC's behalf is at Goldanna's, and that's because she's being a b*tch and you're only there as a favor to him.

So I'm the only one who loves wailing on everyones' Reflection Selves? I think it's neato.

Modifié par SurelyForth, 12 mai 2010 - 08:22 .

[Thor Rand Al]

Serissia wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

I will list the dialogue, if you guys want.

Sounds interesting, I'd like to see.

 Me too please

[Addai]

cmessaz wrote...

I will list the dialogue, if you guys want.

Yes please.

[errant_knight]

cmessaz wrote...

I will list the dialogue, if you guys want.

I would like to see. I have to wonder why some of this stuff was cut....

[cmessaz]

After deafeating their shade:
Morrigan: Hmph. No doubt this had something to do with "facing the dark side of your soul" or some such rubbish
Leliana: Did you see the cruelty on my...on her face? Is that really what I am?
Sten: This proves nothing. I have nothing to fear from shadows.
Oghren: <desc> chortles </desc> I can't believe I kicked my own ass!
Wynne: Well, I wasn't expecting that, and I certainly don't want to go through it again.
Alistair: That was....weird....
Zevran: Maker's breath, I'm beautiful. Did you see that? Did you see me? Magnificent.

[Thor Rand Al]

cmessaz wrote...

After deafeating their shade:
Morrigan: Hmph. No doubt this had something to do with "facing the dark side of your soul" or some such rubbish
Leliana: Did you see the cruelty on my...on her face? Is that really what I am?
Sten: This proves nothing. I have nothing to fear from shadows.
Oghren: chortles I can't believe I kicked my own ass!
Wynne: Well, I wasn't expecting that, and I certainly don't want to go through it again.
Alistair: That was....weird....
Zevran: Maker's breath, I'm beautiful. Did you see that? Did you see me? Magnificent.

Lmao I love those, especially Oghren's and Zev's

[Serissia]

errant_knight wrote...
I would like to see. I have to wonder why some of this stuff was cut....

There's a lot of random stuff in the Toolset.  Currently I'm working on Broken Circle and the Mage Origin and I found npcs that must of been from back when the Landsmeet wasn't the second the last step.  If I had to hazard a guess it looked like it would of probably have been Loghain's fade dream.  There's a headmorph for both a young Cailan and an older Maric.

[MelRedux]

cmessaz wrote...

Zevran: Maker's breath, I'm beautiful. Did you see that? Did you see me? Magnificent.

LOL....Now that's great

[Axekix]

SurelyForth wrote...

Axekix wrote...

Surely
they could leave in an option to tell him to stfu and let you handle
it.  The fact that he doesn't even try just seems lame, borderline
OOC imo.

Not really OOC when he lets you run the
show and seems to genuinely respect your abilities as warrior. The only
time he interferes on the PC's behalf is at Goldanna's, and that's
because she's being a b*tch and you're only there as a favor to him.

Maybe I misread him, but Alistair always struck me as being very protective of his loved ones.  Again it's not so much that I'd expect him to have to "save" the pc, more so it's the sentiment of at least trying to.
I mean if some guy threatened my gf right in front of me we would have a problem.

Modifié par Axekix, 12 mai 2010 - 08:31 .

[Serissia]

cmessaz wrote...

After deafeating their shade:
Morrigan: Hmph. No doubt this had something to do with "facing the dark side of your soul" or some such rubbish
Leliana: Did you see the cruelty on my...on her face? Is that really what I am?
Sten: This proves nothing. I have nothing to fear from shadows.
Oghren: chortles I can't believe I kicked my own ass!
Wynne: Well, I wasn't expecting that, and I certainly don't want to go through it again.
Alistair: That was....weird....
Zevran: Maker's breath, I'm beautiful. Did you see that? Did you see me? Magnificent.

Zevran's is fantastic. 

[McChubbin]

LadyDamodred wrote...

McChubbin wrote...
Quasimodo-stair? O_O That's just wrong. I think I need to see pictures of our lovely not-Templar in his skivvies to wipe that image from my brain..

Better?

*can only nod, too entralled the Six Pack of +900 Swooning*
Thank you!

[cmessaz]

I agree with Axekix, there should be something, like if your PC is a little elven mage. Not him going in swords blazing, but maybe something about "Hey, this trip is necessary Sten" or SOMETHING.

[Addai]

SurelyForth wrote...

So I'm the only one who loves wailing on everyones' Reflection Selves? I think it's neato.

I think it's interesting, too.  Except in the usual way of things, your shadow selves acquire lots of bad-ass spells and talents that your actual selves don't have.

I still recall with fondness the time I was occupied killing shadow Morrigan and shadow Dog killed real Alistair.  You know he's not going to live that one down in camp.  He'd probably say something about how he and dogs don't get along.

The spousal unit commented on how this is pretty much standard fare for games.  I do remember fighting myself in Oblivion, too.

Modifié par Addai67, 12 mai 2010 - 08:27 .

[cmessaz]

Addai- Oh yeah, the tree of shades.

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