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[Addai]

errant_knight wrote...

OMG. I just looked at the last fwe pages. I'm...going away now.

Take me with you. 

[cmessaz]

Awww whats wrong Addai, don't want a Cailen/Duncan sammich?

[KnightofPhoenix]

Addai67 wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

OMG. I just looked at the last fwe pages. I'm...going away now.

Take me with you. 

Not without me you won't...you know....to keep an eye on you two...

Naaa that only works with Leliana, sorry.

[LadyDamodred]

Serissia wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...
Know what would be more awesome?  Dwarven rune for 'A'.

I could make it but I'd need to see what one looks like.  I can make it in Illustrator.

lol, no rush.  A just ageeky fyi (b/c I don't think there's anyway to specify in the game, the forst 2 is short a.  The second with the second line is long a.

Seri:  There's no way to pick and choose what you can use with your mod, is there?

Modifié par LadyDamodred, 13 mai 2010 - 03:46 .

[cmessaz]

Gilsa wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

You kicked Zev out of Orz right? Not Harrowmont? Ya know it's stuff like that that bugs me...Not Leliana so much, I've dealt with her as an elf...but They should know why you wouldn't choose your brother for pete's sake. I figure, I'll let dear brother think I'm helping him...maybe I can get some info out of him, then when Caradin hands me the crown...sorry bro!

Aye, threw Zev out. I thought he was just so disrespectful to me in front of my fellow dwarves. This was my first game and I didn't know any better. Didn't have metagaming information. No one in my party said squat about my exile and then Zevran came in with his comments like that when I was practically pledging my loyalty to Harrowmont, asking if they wanted me to do Provings in his name.

Wynne is the only other companion that will directly acknowledge your adversarial relationship with Bhelen, but it can only be triggered in specific circumstances. I'll be right back with the toolset dialogue if you want to read it.

I would like to see this, because I am going to try to start a dwarf.  I have never finished the game with one and I need to.

[Addai]

Gilsa wrote...

Oh, btw, on one of my DN playthroughs, I sided with Harrowmont, offed my brother, and got a victory kiss from Alistair right there. It was ... sweet revenge.

Victory kiss??

I just couldn't side with Harrowmont on my Aeducan, even with everything.  It's still your house, no?

[Gilsa]

cmessaz wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

You kicked Zev out of Orz right? Not Harrowmont? Ya know it's stuff like that that bugs me...Not Leliana so much, I've dealt with her as an elf...but They should know why you wouldn't choose your brother for pete's sake. I figure, I'll let dear brother think I'm helping him...maybe I can get some info out of him, then when Caradin hands me the crown...sorry bro!

Aye, threw Zev out. I thought he was just so disrespectful to me in front of my fellow dwarves. This was my first game and I didn't know any better. Didn't have metagaming information. No one in my party said squat about my exile and then Zevran came in with his comments like that when I was practically pledging my loyalty to Harrowmont, asking if they wanted me to do Provings in his name.

Wynne is the only other companion that will directly acknowledge your adversarial relationship with Bhelen, but it can only be triggered in specific circumstances. I'll be right back with the toolset dialogue if you want to read it.

I would like to see this, because I am going to try to start a dwarf.  I have never finished the game with one and I need to.

If you do Provings against Bhelen (doesn't matter if you talked to Vartag first and then betrayed him or just did Dulin's quest before talking to Vartag -- I am starting the dialogue where both trees dovetail into wanting to make amends with Bhelen).

PC: I need to talk to Bhelen.
Vartag: "Well, you have an unusual way of showing it. Why would the prince possibly meet with someone who came out publicly against him?" (VO: scornful)

1. I want to make it up to Bhelen. He's the rightful king.
(failed persuade check) Vartag: "That is the most transparent ploy I've ever seen." (VO: mocking)
Vartag: "You and I have nothing more to discuss until you come back to kneel before the rightful king." (VO: cold, a little vicious) *END DIALOGUE*

(passed persuade check) Vartag: "Nothing would make up for what you've done. Unless..." (VO: dismissive, then reconsidering)
(IF: DN) Vartag: "The usurper knows the history between you and Bhelen." (VO: considering)
Vartag: "Harrowmont has no reason to believe you're anything but loyal." (VO: considering)
(IF: Sten in party) Sten: "There are not enough of you for all the alliances you make." (VO: disapproving) *Go to Sten Tree 1*
(IF: Shale in party) Shale: "Bah. Why are we even discussing this? Fool's errand upon fool's errand, that is all it ever seems to get up to."

(NOTE: After the passed and failed persuade dialogues complete, Vartag then makes arrangements for the PC to either deliver the papers to Dace or assigns you to Jarvia depending on how far the PC has gone quest-wise.)

2. And now Harrowmont trusts me. Unlike your other spies.
(failed persuade check) Vartag: "He trusts you because you serve him. And that means Prince Bhelen has no business with you." (VO: dismissive)
Vartag: "You and I have nothing more to discuss until you come back to kneel before the rightful king." (VO: cold, a little vicious) *END DIALOGUE*

(passed persuade check)
Vartag: "Hmm. I see your point. Had you come to us first, Harrowmont would have suspected you." (VO: thinking)
Vartag: "But now, he has no reason to think you're anything other than his champion, on the Proving grounds and off." (VO: realizing)
(IF: Wynne in party) Wynne: "What are you doing? You gave Lord Harrowmont your word!" (VO: outraged) *Go to Wynne Tree*
(IF: Sten in party) Sten: "There are not enough of you for all the alliances you make." (VO: disapproving) *Go to Sten Tree 1*
(IF: Shale in party) Shale: "Bah. Why are we even discussing this? Fool's errand upon fool's errand, that is all it ever seems to get up to."
Vartag: "Are you saying you'd infiltrate his ranks for us? Let the prince know what's happening on the inside?" (VO: seizing on a good idea)

3. I want to tell him to back down. He'll never be king.
Vartag: "Hope you keep that sense of humor when the Assembly votes Harrowmont out on his ear." (VO: not amused) *END DIALOGUE*

WYNNE TREE
Vartag: "My lady, you do not know Harrowmont as we do. Long has he plotted to steal the throne from the Aeducans--" (VO: in an overly polite, sweet way trying to win someone over)
(IF: PC is dwarf noble) Wynne: "Just as your Prince Bhelen plotted to have his siblings killed and exiled?" (VO: not buying it)
(IF: PC is NOT dwarf noble) Wynne: "And they say your prince killed his own brother and father." (VO: with distaste)
Wynne: "It seems it is only Lord Harrowmont's influence that prevented him from profiting from his crime." (VO: approves of Harrowmont)
Vartag: "Keep your companion under control. I would hate to see her thrown into the Deep Roads because of a... cultural misunderstanding." (VO: threatening quietly)

(IF: PC is dwarf noble)
Wynne: "Don't do this. Your brother used you once; he will do so again." (VO: a reasoned appeal to the player)
1. He is still family. I must find it in me to forgive him.
(passed persuade check) Wynne: "Then you are a better person than I am." (VO: grudingly)

(failed persuade check) Wynne: "Forgive him, yes, but from a distance. Must you get so close?" (VO: appealing to the player's good sense)
1a. I do not wish to argue this. I made my decision. *See line 4*
1b. Yes, if only to irritate you. *Same response as line 4*
1c. You're right. I shouldn't be so foolhardy. *See line 2*
1d. Fine. If it will please you, I will not work with Bhelen. *See line 3*

2. You're right. I shouldn't be so foolhardy.
Vartag: "You and I have nothing more to discuss until you come back to kneel before the rightful king." (VO: cold, a little vicious) *END DIALOGUE*

3. Fine. If it will please you, I will not work with Bhelen.
Vartag: "You and I have nothing more to discuss until you come back to kneel before the rightful king." (VO: cold, a little vicious) *END DIALOGUE*

4. I do not wish to argue this. I made my decision.
Wynne - [APPROVAL: low decrease]
(IF: Sten in party) Sten - [APPROVAL: low decrease]

(NOTE: After the passed and failed persuade dialogues complete, Vartag then makes arrangements for the PC to either deliver the papers to Dace or assigns you to Jarvia depending on how far the PC has gone quest-wise.)

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(IF: PC is NOT dwarf noble)
Wynne: "Harrowmont seems an honorable man. This Prince Bhelen will not even deign to speak with you. Why should you help him?" (VO: appealing to the player's good sense)

(IF: Dwarf Commoner) 1. Working against him might harm Rica and my nephew.
(medium persuade) Wynne: "I suppose I never considered that..." (VO: realizing)
(no persuade) Wynne: "But he seems like a thoroughly loathsome individual. I think you are making a mistake." (VO: dislike for Bhelen)
1a. I do not wish to argue this. I made my decision.
Wynne - [APPROVAL: low decrease]
(IF: Sten in party) Sten - [APPROVAL: low decrease]
1b. It's my mistake to make then.
Wynne - [Approval: low decrease]
1c.  Fine. If it will please you, I will not work with Bhelen.
Vartag: "You and I have nothing more to discuss until you come back to kneel before the rightful king." (VO: cold, a little vicious) *END DIALOGUE*

2. I should not judge him for understanding him fully. *Same responses and persuade checks as line 1 above*

3. I didn't like Harrowmont that much.
Wynne - [Approval: low decrease]

4. I just want to explore my options.
Wynne - [Approval: low decrease]

(NOTE: After the passed and failed persuade dialogues complete, Vartag then makes arrangements for the PC to either deliver the papers to Dace or assigns you to Jarvia depending on how far the PC has gone quest-wise.)

STEN TREE 1
(IF: PC is dwarf) 1. This is how things are done in Orzammar. It's politics.
Sten: "You will have to choose eventually." (VO: stern) *Go to Sten tree 2*

(IF: PC not dwarf) 2. I don't know enough about either to make a decision.
Sten: "Then choosing one is the same as choosing the other. What matters is having the courage to make the choice." (VO: sanctimonious)
Sten: "You will have to choose eventually." (VO: stern) *Go to Sten tree 2*

3. I'm just keeping our options open.
Sten: "You will have to choose eventually." (VO: stern) *Go to Sten tree 2*

4. I am just being cautious.
Sten: "You will have to choose eventually." (VO: stern) *Go to Sten tree 2*

5. I think it shows cunning and circumspectness.
Sten: "You will have to choose eventually." (VO: stern) *Go to Sten tree 2*

STEN TREE 2
1. Isn't it obvious I've chosen to serve Bhelen?
(passed persuade) Sten: "Obvious? Hmph." (VO: uncertain)

(failed persuade) Sten: "All that is obvious is that you're acting like a coward." (VO: sanctimonious) *Go to Sten tree 3*

2. I know what I'm doing. Don't worry.
(IF: Shale in party) Shale: "And it was picked to be a Grey Warden... why?" (VO: rolling her eyes, sarcastic)
Sten: "Have it your way." (VO: backing down)

3. I prefer to take a more cautious approach.
(IF: Shale in party) Shale: "And it was picked to be a Grey Warden... why?" (VO: rolling her eyes, sarcastic)
Sten: "Have it your way." (VO: backing down)

4. Very well, perhaps we should stick with Harrowmont.
Vartag: "You and I have nothing more to discuss until you come back to kneel before the rightful king." (VO: cold, a little vicious) *END DIALOGUE*

STEN TREE 3
1. Then I'm a coward. Now shut up.
(IF: Shale in party) Shale: "And it was picked to be a Grey Warden... why?" (VO: rolling her eyes, sarcastic)
Sten: "Have it your way." (VO: backing down)

2. I don't just bumble into things like you do.
(IF: Shale in party) Shale: "And it was picked to be a Grey Warden... why?" (VO: rolling her eyes, sarcastic)
Sten: "Have it your way." (VO: backing down)

3. We'll have to agree to disagree.
(IF: Shale in party) Shale: "And it was picked to be a Grey Warden... why?" (VO: rolling her eyes, sarcastic)
Sten: "Have it your way." (VO: backing down)

4. Then I suppose we should stick to supporting Harrowmont.
Vartag: "You and I have nothing more to discuss until you come back to kneel before the rightful king." (VO: cold, a little vicious) *END DIALOGUE*

(NOTE: After the passed and failed persuade dialogues complete, Vartag then makes arrangements for the PC to either deliver the papers to Dace or assigns you to Jarvia depending on how far the PC has gone quest-wise.)

[Serissia]

LadyDamodred wrote...
Seri:  There's no way to pick and choose what you can use with your mod, is there?

All the files are seperate so, you can pick and chose what you want to use.  Unless you're fimilar w/ the npc naming system though it might be hard.

I might put the werewolf female fix as a seperate fix.  That way if people only want that they don't have to use my whole set.

My mod is huge and it changes a lot but it doesn't make a lot of noticable changes.  Pretty much the main aim of it is to get rid of unnatural skin tones, eye colors, etc.  For whatever reason they went in and made people with Caucasian facial structure have Asian or African skin tones.  I went back and fixed that.  There two actual Asian looking npcs I've came across have proper Asian skin tones from PT. 

There's some cosmetic changes too.  I felt that giving all of the Chasind in Lothering tattoos made them stand out even more and gave even more physical evidence to the commoners mistrust/hatred of them.  I also did this w/ all the elves in the game I'm using PT's extreme colors for the elves so their eyes have an eerie glow to them. 

[KnightofPhoenix]

I have to declare that the Zevran thread has now become my favorite thread and that this thread pales in comparision. Why?

Because this was produced there





That man being the Illusive Man, aka myself.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 13 mai 2010 - 03:58 .

[Sarah1281]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

I have to declare that the Zevran thread has now become my favorite thread and that this thread pales in comparision. Why?

Because this was produced there





That man being the Illusive Man, aka myself.

That is pretty compelling evidence. And just to strengthen the case, let's spread the love of other things produced there:
 

Modifié par Sarah1281, 13 mai 2010 - 04:01 .

[cmessaz]

Any good Dwarf female presets out there?

[Addai]

KoP, so unfaithful. Tsk.

[Zeleen]

LadyDamodred wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

Alistair gives up any pretense of decorum and goes straight for the goods:

You've trained him well. 

And, goddamn.  Can I just say that that is probably my favorite armor in the game?  I love the look and those are like my two favorite colors.

What armor is that?  And how did Alistair get his brother's hair?

[sylvanaerie]

nah I have to disagree. KoP is faithful, to his Morrigan devotion

@Zeleen.  Thats a morph nranola made inspired by King Maric's similarities to his son.  We call him "Maricstair" (and you can look it up under that name in the projects boards here on teh Bioware Site).

Modifié par sylvanaerie, 13 mai 2010 - 04:12 .

[Serissia]

Zeleen wrote...
What armor is that?  And how did Alistair get his brother's hair?

I forget which medium armor that is off the top of my head.  The hair is just a head morph.

[mellifera]

Alistair has Cailan!Hair because they are mean, awful people ;~~~~~~~;

[Lady Jess]

Gilsa wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

You kicked Zev out of Orz right? Not Harrowmont? Ya know it's stuff like that that bugs me...Not Leliana so much, I've dealt with her as an elf...but They should know why you wouldn't choose your brother for pete's sake. I figure, I'll let dear brother think I'm helping him...maybe I can get some info out of him, then when Caradin hands me the crown...sorry bro!

Aye, threw Zev out. I thought he was just so disrespectful to me in front of my fellow dwarves. This was my first game and I didn't know any better. Didn't have metagaming information. No one in my party said squat about my exile and then Zevran came in with his comments like that when I was practically pledging my loyalty to Harrowmont, asking if they wanted me to do Provings in his name.

Wynne is the only other companion that will directly acknowledge your adversarial relationship with Bhelen, but it can only be triggered in specific circumstances. I'll be right back with the toolset dialogue if you want to read it.

Edit: Again? What luck!

Wow thanks for ll of that. I want to do all of Bhelens quests, then crown harrowment at the end. Wonder if I still get that victory kiss...lol That would be murder to re-do if I do something wrong.

[KnightofPhoenix]

sylvanaerie wrote...

nah I have to disagree. KoP is faithful, to his Morrigan devotion.

Exactly, thank you very much. Now  unless this thread manages to pull something equal to or superior to this, my opinion will remain unchanged.

Pro-tip, someone could do an Illusive Beard pic.

[LadyDamodred]

Zeleen wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

Alistair gives up any pretense of decorum and goes straight for the goods:

You've trained him well. 

And, goddamn.  Can I just say that that is probably my favorite armor in the game?  I love the look and those are like my two favorite colors.

What armor is that?  And how did Alistair get his brother's hair?

Scale armor, I forget what level, but I know the start scale you get in the HN origin is that color.  I think Surely said it was Veridium?

And that is Maricstair.

[LadyDamodred]

*coughs*


You only hurt the ones you love.

[mellifera]

LadyDamodred wrote...

*coughs*


You only hurt the ones you love.

[Gilsa]

cmessaz wrote...

Any good Dwarf female presets out there?

In DA Redesigned (I don't use it personally), I thought the faces for Rica and Mardy were gorgeous (based on their screenshots) if you know how to grab them for personal use:

http://www.dragonage...file.php?id=686

Otherwise you can look through these collection of dwarven presets and see if any jump out at you:

http://www.dragonage...file.php?id=824
http://www.dragonage...ile.php?id=1192 (The male dwarf is omg sexy)
http://www.dragonage...ile.php?id=1198
http://www.dragonage...file.php?id=151
http://www.dragonage...file.php?id=730
http://www.dragonage...file.php?id=314
http://www.dragonage...ile.php?id=1091
http://www.dragonage...file.php?id=600

Edit: Now that I look at that picture again of Mardy from DARedesigned, she is stunningly beautiful for a dwarf. It's a shame her face is not offered as a preset.

Modifié par Gilsa, 13 mai 2010 - 04:29 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

LadyDamodred wrote...

*coughs*


You only hurt the ones you love.

You are so asking for it LD.

[LadyDamodred]

yukidama wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

*coughs*


You only hurt the ones you love.

I've gotta take off my nakie mod and get some better shots.  

[Gilsa]

Lady Jess wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

You kicked Zev out of Orz right? Not Harrowmont? Ya know it's stuff like that that bugs me...Not Leliana so much, I've dealt with her as an elf...but They should know why you wouldn't choose your brother for pete's sake. I figure, I'll let dear brother think I'm helping him...maybe I can get some info out of him, then when Caradin hands me the crown...sorry bro!

Aye, threw Zev out. I thought he was just so disrespectful to me in front of my fellow dwarves. This was my first game and I didn't know any better. Didn't have metagaming information. No one in my party said squat about my exile and then Zevran came in with his comments like that when I was practically pledging my loyalty to Harrowmont, asking if they wanted me to do Provings in his name.

Wynne is the only other companion that will directly acknowledge your adversarial relationship with Bhelen, but it can only be triggered in specific circumstances. I'll be right back with the toolset dialogue if you want to read it.

Edit: Again? What luck!

Wow thanks for ll of that. I want to do all of Bhelens quests, then crown harrowment at the end. Wonder if I still get that victory kiss...lol That would be murder to re-do if I do something wrong.

Sorry if I wasn't clear. The victory kiss was just clicking on Alistair and asking him to kiss you. He'll ask about your audience. The only downside is Oghren being pervy as he watches. =p

Edit: OH SNAP. AGAIN? I don't have that many pictures of him, lol.

Modifié par Gilsa, 13 mai 2010 - 04:22 .