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Alistair, post-coronation... and/or Alistair gush thread (Origins/Awakening Spoilers)


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Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

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Are they as green as the finest emeralds and glowing with uncany power/intelligence/wisdom?



Errrr..no. More like the color of cheese mold.

You clearly haven't read some of the fic I have. ;) Of course it's not that they're green that puts it over the top. It's that they're as green as (insert overblown imagery here), glowing with (insert overblown attribute here), and part of a face so perfect, it can only be described as (insert really overblown description here). Still, I'm just going to keep them prosaic. :)



Trust me, I have. Especially in the NWN2 category. I know exactly what you are talking about. Where the character description would suit a My Little Pony better.


LOL! Yes! Exactly.

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cmessaz wrote...

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Addai- I didn't make the cutscene at the end, I just linked them together so that is the kiss that is supposed to be their. Like everything else post-landsmeet, it was sloppily done. I wonder if I can replace it with another from earlier in the game....

I didn't figure you did, just reporting from the front lines.  I mean, I guess it would make sense that that kiss would be a sloppy mash-face.  They're exhausted, wounded, and he's about to die...

Ack, why did I let me talk myself into doing this ending.  :crying:

I like that ending, but yeah the lack of appreciation afterwards gets me. Even in Awakening, well especially in Awakening. Anora says a bull crap thing, but no one else (well Wynne, but she doesn't count). I guess you can't expect more, when if you execute him no one says a damn word about it. Post-landsmeet is just disappointing.

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I always like that shot.  Very nice 3/4 profile of him.

And I agree completely with the WC post-coronation crap.  The utter lack of appreciation that someone just died to save them all was appalling.  Lya started hating all of her friends right then.  "You traveled with me for a year, watched us fall in love and get engaged, and you have nothing to say to me about it?!"

LYA ANGRY!  LYA SMASH!

#20203
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cmessaz wrote...

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OK, this idea was just presented to me on Nexus. What would everyone think of me taking out the "kiss him" and putting it in the main conversation instead of after the "private" line? I am unsure, I will do what everyone else decides.



Ok I'm probably way behind on your mod cause of playing my HNM but did you add another "Kiss him" line or is this the main game line

I'm undecided here, I wish I could do the cutscene editor. I agree with errant_knight in one way, but it would be nice to have a small kiss available without the whole private thing. There isn't any existing in game, that would work for that anyway. I could easily add it, but not easily make the scene. Maybe a peck on the cheek like he does in Awakening.


I wonder if you could take the animation from the kiss on the cheek and apply it to the PC? *Cue pleased as punch look from Alistair.*

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I angry and smash too! No angry faces to use so we have to make our own. >:-(

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errant_knight wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Thor Rand Al wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

OK, this idea was just presented to me on Nexus. What would everyone think of me taking out the "kiss him" and putting it in the main conversation instead of after the "private" line? I am unsure, I will do what everyone else decides.



Ok I'm probably way behind on your mod cause of playing my HNM but did you add another "Kiss him" line or is this the main game line

I'm undecided here, I wish I could do the cutscene editor. I agree with errant_knight in one way, but it would be nice to have a small kiss available without the whole private thing. There isn't any existing in game, that would work for that anyway. I could easily add it, but not easily make the scene. Maybe a peck on the cheek like he does in Awakening.


I wonder if you could take the animation from the kiss on the cheek and apply it to the PC? *Cue pleased as punch look from Alistair.*

I wonder if there would be a way to grab that since I have Awakening in the OC, but unless there is a way to cheat, I don't know that I can generally access Awakening's resources in the toolset. But that was my first thought. That would be Posted Image Then I really wouldn't have any reason to play Awakening again.

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LadyDamodred wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Addai- I didn't make the cutscene at the end, I just linked them together so that is the kiss that is supposed to be their. Like everything else post-landsmeet, it was sloppily done. I wonder if I can replace it with another from earlier in the game....

I didn't figure you did, just reporting from the front lines.  I mean, I guess it would make sense that that kiss would be a sloppy mash-face.  They're exhausted, wounded, and he's about to die...

Ack, why did I let me talk myself into doing this ending.  :crying:

I like that ending, but yeah the lack of appreciation afterwards gets me. Even in Awakening, well especially in Awakening. Anora says a bull crap thing, but no one else (well Wynne, but she doesn't count). I guess you can't expect more, when if you execute him no one says a damn word about it. Post-landsmeet is just disappointing.

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I always like that shot.  Very nice 3/4 profile of him.

And I agree completely with the WC post-coronation crap.  The utter lack of appreciation that someone just died to save them all was appalling.  Lya started hating all of her friends right then.  "You traveled with me for a year, watched us fall in love and get engaged, and you have nothing to say to me about it?!"

LYA ANGRY!  LYA SMASH!



Annoyed the crap out of me too. "Hello, he just sacrificed his life AND soul to save everyone, and not even a memorial statue in the epilogue?

Sumwun gots sum 'splainin to do.

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LadyDamodred wrote...

And I agree completely with the WC post-coronation crap.  The utter lack of appreciation that someone just died to save them all was appalling.  Lya started hating all of her friends right then.  "You traveled with me for a year, watched us fall in love and get engaged, and you have nothing to say to me about it?!"

LYA ANGRY!  LYA SMASH!



That ending always pissed me off, that's why I only did it twice out of multiple playthroughs lol.  I'll have to do it again here eventually with my HNM but that'll be in a while, I'm so not in a hurry to have Alistair take that final blow Posted Image

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Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...
Annoyed the crap out of me too. "Hello, he just sacrificed his life AND soul to save everyone, and not even a memorial statue in the epilogue?

Sumwun gots sum 'splainin to do.


You know, I really wonder if the person who kills the AD really has their soul destroyed.  That's just so...terrible.  The thought that my PCs will never be with him again, either in this life or after they die is ghastly.

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Since we're talking about the Alistair sacrifice ending, I had to go back and find the theme song thread.  Klarabella was the one who posted the song I was trying to think of...  this one.

More tissues....

That singer even looks like my PC, kind of.

Modifié par Addai67, 16 mai 2010 - 02:51 .


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I just leveled the circle...and I swear Morrigan was flirting with Gregoir at the end...rofl

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LadyDamodred wrote...

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...
Annoyed the crap out of me too. "Hello, he just sacrificed his life AND soul to save everyone, and not even a memorial statue in the epilogue?

Sumwun gots sum 'splainin to do.


You know, I really wonder if the person who kills the AD really has their soul destroyed.  That's just so...terrible.  The thought that my PCs will never be with him again, either in this life or after they die is ghastly.



Which is why after I got the achievements for it, I never sacrificed anyone else again. Even Loggy. Soul being comp0letely destroyed is just too much for me.

So Morrigan gets to ride the stallion of my choosing in every subsequent playthrough.

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LadyDamodred wrote...

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...
Annoyed the crap out of me too. "Hello, he just sacrificed his life AND soul to save everyone, and not even a memorial statue in the epilogue?

Sumwun gots sum 'splainin to do.


You know, I really wonder if the person who kills the AD really has their soul destroyed.  That's just so...terrible.  The thought that my PCs will never be with him again, either in this life or after they die is ghastly.


Yep, both the Warden's and AD's souls are destroyed. Which is the reason I've never (and will never do) WC ending. Maybe US but my Wardens would never put someone they love in that position. And any evil characters I make just take Morrigan up on her offer.

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But at the funeral they say "let us hope they have gone on to a better place."

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Kryyptehk wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...
Annoyed the crap out of me too. "Hello, he just sacrificed his life AND soul to save everyone, and not even a memorial statue in the epilogue?

Sumwun gots sum 'splainin to do.


You know, I really wonder if the person who kills the AD really has their soul destroyed.  That's just so...terrible.  The thought that my PCs will never be with him again, either in this life or after they die is ghastly.


Yep, both the Warden's and AD's souls are destroyed. Which is the reason I've never (and will never do) WC ending. Maybe US but my Wardens would never put someone they love in that position. And any evil characters I make just take Morrigan up on her offer.


I always take Morrigan's offer. There's only THREE of us and one of them has been tortured for close to a year, no way I'm risking having none at the end of it.

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cmessaz wrote...

But at the funeral they say "let us hope they have gone on to a better place."

Well they're hardly going to advertise what happened to their hero, are they?

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cmessaz wrote...

But at the funeral they say "let us hope they have gone on to a better place."


Emphesis on the word "Hope". Riordan said both souls are destroyed.

On a side note, I've given up on toolset. I cannot make a face on it <_<

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I imagine my PCs would have to be dragged kicking and screaming from Alistair's body on Ft. Drakon (assuming they don't all get knocked out when it goes all 'splodey).

Though I'd imagine they'd go all Carrie on everyone after the coronation, their "LOL ALISTAIR WHO???" schtick being the proverbial bucket of pig's blood dumped on them. Or in the case of a mage, Storm of the Century the throne room off the map :P

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I'm just trying to be optimistic! The other explanation is slightly more disturbing.

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Does exiled Alistair get mentioned in the Awakening epilogue cards or only Origins?

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Random double post o' doom.

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yukidama wrote...

I imagine my PCs would have to be dragged kicking and screaming from Alistair's body on Ft. Drakon (assuming they don't all get knocked out when it goes all 'splodey). Though I'd imagine they'd go all Carrie on everyone, their "LOL ALISTAIR WHO???" schtick being the proverbial bucket of pig's blood dumped on me. Or in the case of a mage, Storm of the Century the throne room off the map :P

I agree with THIS.

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Kryyptehk wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...
Annoyed the crap out of me too. "Hello, he just sacrificed his life AND soul to save everyone, and not even a memorial statue in the epilogue?

Sumwun gots sum 'splainin to do.


You know, I really wonder if the person who kills the AD really has their soul destroyed.  That's just so...terrible.  The thought that my PCs will never be with him again, either in this life or after they die is ghastly.


Yep, both the Warden's and AD's souls are destroyed. Which is the reason I've never (and will never do) WC ending. Maybe US but my Wardens would never put someone they love in that position. And any evil characters I make just take Morrigan up on her offer.


The question is, how do they know this?  Is it a theory or what?  How do they know for sure?

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Kryyptehk wrote...

 Riordan said both souls are destroyed.


How does he know for sure though? Maybe it's just an assumption.

Modifié par AnniLau, 16 mai 2010 - 02:59 .


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They don't. WE NEED GAIDER! Before I do the US ending again!

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The sucky ending for WC is my reason for thinking Bioware really wants us to impregnate Morri. You don't exist on US and WC is just a terrible ending (and I bet Ali/Loghain would be important enough to screw you over if you sacrificed them) thus, Dark Promise ending.