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Alistair, post-coronation... and/or Alistair gush thread (Origins/Awakening Spoilers)


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He probably fears all of the estrogen in this thread.

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yukidama wrote...
I imagine my PCs would have to be dragged kicking and screaming from Alistair's body on Ft. Drakon (assuming they don't all get knocked out when it goes all 'splodey).


I didn't imagine my PC as kicking and screaming.  More like the silent, devastated refusal to let go of the body; having to be physically pried from it; refusing to leave his side even after being pried off.

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Kryyptehk wrote...

 Riordan said both souls are destroyed.


How does he know for sure though? Maybe it's just an assumption.


Maybe, but that would suck because the AD would be in the Fade somewhere...as well as the rest of the Old Gods

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LadyDamodred wrote...

yukidama wrote...
I imagine my PCs would have to be dragged kicking and screaming from Alistair's body on Ft. Drakon (assuming they don't all get knocked out when it goes all 'splodey).


I didn't imagine my PC as kicking and screaming.  More like the silent, devastated refusal to let go of the body; having to be physically pried from it; refusing to leave his side even after being pried off.


Your character reminds me of a certain Spanish monarch. Is your Warden's name Mary by any chance?

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LadyDamodred wrote...

yukidama wrote...
I imagine my PCs would have to be dragged kicking and screaming from Alistair's body on Ft. Drakon (assuming they don't all get knocked out when it goes all 'splodey).


I didn't imagine my PC as kicking and screaming.  More like the silent, devastated refusal to let go of the body; having to be physically pried from it; refusing to leave his side even after being pried off.

SAD! OMG I have never thought about this. This ending had the potential to be amazing if BW had done something with it. But as they did with everything after the landsmeet, they rushed through it.

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Though I'd imagine they'd go all Carrie on everyone after the coronation, their "LOL ALISTAIR WHO???" schtick being the proverbial bucket of pig's blood dumped on them. Or in the case of a mage, Storm of the Century the throne room off the map :P

I imagine that my PC was too numb to do that.  Lots of people are suffering, she would know that.  She could keep it together long enough to let them, as Wynne says, gawk at her, if that's what they need.  Alistair would want her to do that.

I figure she would go to Highever and do what Alistair had wanted to do- memorialize Duncan.  And maybe stay in Highever.   Maybe Fergus needs a court mage.  It's something to do, anyway, far away from Denerim where she started out life as a street child and where nothing good ever happened to her.

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LadyDamodred wrote...

yukidama wrote...
I imagine my PCs would have to be dragged kicking and screaming from Alistair's body on Ft. Drakon (assuming they don't all get knocked out when it goes all 'splodey).


I didn't imagine my PC as kicking and screaming.  More like the silent, devastated refusal to let go of the body; having to be physically pried from it; refusing to leave his side even after being pried off.


Hahaha, I didn't mean that literally, just in the sense that it would be pretty much impossible to drag them away without a lot of resistance. If I actually think about it they'd probably react more in line with your description.

But they still would be very, very, VERY mad after the coronation. I don't think they'd want to see most of their 'friends' again after that.

Because seriously, I know you got your own stuff going but if your closest friend's partner/fiancee/whatever just DIED to save the damn world you better at least have some words of consolences >:|

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yukidama wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

yukidama wrote...
I imagine my PCs would have to be dragged kicking and screaming from Alistair's body on Ft. Drakon (assuming they don't all get knocked out when it goes all 'splodey).


I didn't imagine my PC as kicking and screaming.  More like the silent, devastated refusal to let go of the body; having to be physically pried from it; refusing to leave his side even after being pried off.


Hahaha, I didn't mean that literally, just in the sense that it would be pretty much impossible to drag them away without a lot of resistance. If I actually think about it they'd probably react more in line with your description.

But they still would be very, very, VERY mad after the coronation. I don't think she'd want to see most of her 'friends' again after that.


The only two that bother me by not saying anything are Wynne and Leliana, the sure had TONS to say before! Sten would assume you knew how he felt, Shayle...well is Shayle, She doesn't understand emotion yet, and Zev...I think Zev gets it. Regardless if you're friends or lovers, he will stay with you. Now, knowing Zev doesn't do well with expressing how he feels, I think the gesture says it all.

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Lady Jess wrote...

yukidama wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

yukidama wrote...
I imagine my PCs would have to be dragged kicking and screaming from Alistair's body on Ft. Drakon (assuming they don't all get knocked out when it goes all 'splodey).


I didn't imagine my PC as kicking and screaming.  More like the silent, devastated refusal to let go of the body; having to be physically pried from it; refusing to leave his side even after being pried off.


Hahaha, I didn't mean that literally, just in the sense that it would be pretty much impossible to drag them away without a lot of resistance. If I actually think about it they'd probably react more in line with your description.

But they still would be very, very, VERY mad after the coronation. I don't think she'd want to see most of her 'friends' again after that.


The only two that bother me by not saying anything are Wynne and Leliana, the sure had TONS to say before! Sten would assume you knew how he felt, Shayle...well is Shayle, She doesn't understand emotion yet, and Zev...I think Zev gets it. Regardless if you're friends or lovers, he will stay with you. Now, knowing Zev doesn't do well with expressing how he feels, I think the gesture says it all.


I don't think it's even just your friends though. That he only gets a throwaway line from Anora and Wynne and that's it. Even if he's not the PC's lover, he should at least get more recognition than that. In this case the PC didn't kill the Archdemon, but they're treating them like the savior without giving much acknowledgement to the one who actually died.

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I agree. SOMETHING out of people. This could have been a very emotional and well written ending and it wouldn't have taken much. But they got in a hurry, just look at the programming errors and plot flag mistakes in the toolset.

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Lady Jess wrote...

The only two that bother me by not saying anything are Wynne and Leliana, the sure had TONS to say before! Sten would assume you knew how he felt, Shayle...well is Shayle, She doesn't understand emotion yet, and Zev...I think Zev gets it. Regardless if you're friends or lovers, he will stay with you. Now, knowing Zev doesn't do well with expressing how he feels, I think the gesture says it all.

The ONLY justification I could give RP-wise is that people are trying to cheer you up.  They should know that that's not possible, but at least with Zevran and Sten, it did feel warm enough that I could see that they were trying to tell her to be brave.  The whole post-coronation was pretty empty, actually.  Did you ever notice how quiet it is?  What a boring little affair.  At least the smallfolk sound like they are having a good time outside.  This time, of course, the emptiness made it all worse.  Who is waiting for her?  Irving.  Hurrah.  Go back to your Tower, you old fart.

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Lady Jess wrote...
The only two that bother me by not saying anything are Wynne and Leliana, the sure had TONS to say before! Sten would assume you knew how he felt, Shayle...well is Shayle, She doesn't understand emotion yet, and Zev...I think Zev gets it. Regardless if you're friends or lovers, he will stay with you. Now, knowing Zev doesn't do well with expressing how he feels, I think the gesture says it all.


I've never had Zev stay as a friend.  I usually have him at +100 friendly and he always takes off saying he doesn't want to stay in one spot in case he's being hunted or something along those lines.

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Kryyptehk wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

yukidama wrote...
I imagine my PCs would have to be dragged kicking and screaming from Alistair's body on Ft. Drakon (assuming they don't all get knocked out when it goes all 'splodey).


I didn't imagine my PC as kicking and screaming.  More like the silent, devastated refusal to let go of the body; having to be physically pried from it; refusing to leave his side even after being pried off.


Your character reminds me of a certain Spanish monarch. Is your Warden's name Mary by any chance?


Yeah, no, not like that.  I have a partial fic of this written and she's devastated, but still mostly in shock.  She can't stay for his funeral so she just walks out.  Kind of creepily withdrawn until his ashes are laid to rest in Weisshaupt.  She sorta loses it then.

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Serissia wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...
The only two that bother me by not saying anything are Wynne and Leliana, the sure had TONS to say before! Sten would assume you knew how he felt, Shayle...well is Shayle, She doesn't understand emotion yet, and Zev...I think Zev gets it. Regardless if you're friends or lovers, he will stay with you. Now, knowing Zev doesn't do well with expressing how he feels, I think the gesture says it all.


I've never had Zev stay as a friend.  I usually have him at +100 friendly and he always takes off saying he doesn't want to stay in one spot in case he's being hunted or something along those lines.


When I'm a Queen, I tell him to stay (I'm sure I'll need his services as a monarch:devil:) but otherwise I usually go with whatever he says he's going to do. Except when he accidently falls in love with me.

"I could stay in Denerim in case--"

"No, no, it's best if you go."

"Are you sure, we could--"

"Yeah, leave. I'll pay your way."

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I've never had Zev stay as a friend. I usually have him at +100 friendly and he always takes off saying he doesn't want to stay in one spot in case he's being hunted or something along those lines.

Does he say something about how it's not a good idea to stay in one place and you get to agree, tell him he can go if he comes back, or ask him to stay?

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Serissia wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...
The only two that bother me by not saying anything are Wynne and Leliana, the sure had TONS to say before! Sten would assume you knew how he felt, Shayle...well is Shayle, She doesn't understand emotion yet, and Zev...I think Zev gets it. Regardless if you're friends or lovers, he will stay with you. Now, knowing Zev doesn't do well with expressing how he feels, I think the gesture says it all.


I've never had Zev stay as a friend.  I usually have him at +100 friendly and he always takes off saying he doesn't want to stay in one spot in case he's being hunted or something along those lines.


Really?  It's really easy to get him to stay.  Just say you'd like him to stick around.  Though in the WC ending, my PC takes off and asks Zevran to come with her.  She figures he knows sorta what she's going through and needs the support.

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Serissia wrote...

I've never had Zev stay as a friend.  I usually have him at +100 friendly and he always takes off saying he doesn't want to stay in one spot in case he's being hunted or something along those lines.

My theory on Zevran, which seems to be supported in the toolset from what I've heard, is that he wants to stay with you regardless of whether romanced or not.  I think he wants a place in the world.  If you say "you're welcome to stay" or "you can come with me," that's all he needs to hear and he sounds pretty happy about it.

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Yeah, I think Zevran would make a good travel buddy post-WC ending. I don't think any of them would stay in Denerim or on as a Warden :/

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Addai67 wrote...

Serissia wrote...

I've never had Zev stay as a friend.  I usually have him at +100 friendly and he always takes off saying he doesn't want to stay in one spot in case he's being hunted or something along those lines.

My theory on Zevran, which seems to be supported in the toolset from what I've heard, is that he wants to stay with you regardless of whether romanced or not.  I think he wants a place in the world.  If you say "you're welcome to stay" or "you can come with me," that's all he needs to hear and he sounds pretty happy about it.


Exactly.  I always RP it as you are the first real friend he's ever had.  And again, romanced or not, he's found someone willing to stick up for and by him and he doesn't want to let that go.  Traveling for a little while maybe, but not to leave your PC behind forever.

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LadyDamodred wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Serissia wrote...

I've never had Zev stay as a friend.  I usually have him at +100 friendly and he always takes off saying he doesn't want to stay in one spot in case he's being hunted or something along those lines.

My theory on Zevran, which seems to be supported in the toolset from what I've heard, is that he wants to stay with you regardless of whether romanced or not.  I think he wants a place in the world.  If you say "you're welcome to stay" or "you can come with me," that's all he needs to hear and he sounds pretty happy about it.


Exactly.  I always RP it as you are the first real friend he's ever had.  And again, romanced or not, he's found someone willing to stick up for and by him and he doesn't want to let that go.  Traveling for a little while maybe, but not to leave your PC behind forever.


That explanation actually makes me want to talk to him about getting him to +30 approval lol. Maybe I will this time around.

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me too :crying:

I need my puppy Alistair

if I ever get another puppy I am going to name it Alistair

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LadyDamodred wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Serissia wrote...

I've never had Zev stay as a friend.  I usually have him at +100 friendly and he always takes off saying he doesn't want to stay in one spot in case he's being hunted or something along those lines.

My theory on Zevran, which seems to be supported in the toolset from what I've heard, is that he wants to stay with you regardless of whether romanced or not.  I think he wants a place in the world.  If you say "you're welcome to stay" or "you can come with me," that's all he needs to hear and he sounds pretty happy about it.


Exactly.  I always RP it as you are the first real friend he's ever had.  And again, romanced or not, he's found someone willing to stick up for and by him and he doesn't want to let that go.  Traveling for a little while maybe, but not to leave your PC behind forever.


Mhmm. By the end of the game I always have everyone at or very near 100 (which is why it tans my hide that they don't say anything). Zevran is a pretty good friend so I can definitely see my PCs traveling with him afterward. I really think in this case Zevran is probably the person who would understand your PC's mindset best anyway :(

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I'll have to try different lines w/ Zev next time. He's the only one I'd actually like to stick around. He makes a great friend especially if the PC is a rogue. It just seems to fit.

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yukidama wrote...

Yeah, I think Zevran would make a good travel buddy post-WC ending. I don't think any of them would stay in Denerim or on as a Warden :/

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