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Alistair, post-coronation... and/or Alistair gush thread (Origins/Awakening Spoilers)


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Kryyptehk

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What is that armor? I keep seeing it.

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Kryyptehk wrote...

What is that armor? I keep seeing it.


Best massive armor mod out there :D
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Kryyptehk wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Serissia wrote...

I've never had Zev stay as a friend.  I usually have him at +100 friendly and he always takes off saying he doesn't want to stay in one spot in case he's being hunted or something along those lines.

My theory on Zevran, which seems to be supported in the toolset from what I've heard, is that he wants to stay with you regardless of whether romanced or not.  I think he wants a place in the world.  If you say "you're welcome to stay" or "you can come with me," that's all he needs to hear and he sounds pretty happy about it.


Exactly.  I always RP it as you are the first real friend he's ever had.  And again, romanced or not, he's found someone willing to stick up for and by him and he doesn't want to let that go.  Traveling for a little while maybe, but not to leave your PC behind forever.


That explanation actually makes me want to talk to him about getting him to +30 approval lol. Maybe I will this time around.


:o  Do you never make Zevran your friend?!

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I never did either until I came into this thread.

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Hmmm, what do you guys think of this?
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Bwah?! Seriously?!

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cmessaz wrote...

Hmmm, what do you guys think of this?
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No thanks.

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I hated him because my first playthrough he betrayed me.

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LadyDamodred wrote...

Kryyptehk wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Serissia wrote...

I've never had Zev stay as a friend.  I usually have him at +100 friendly and he always takes off saying he doesn't want to stay in one spot in case he's being hunted or something along those lines.

My theory on Zevran, which seems to be supported in the toolset from what I've heard, is that he wants to stay with you regardless of whether romanced or not.  I think he wants a place in the world.  If you say "you're welcome to stay" or "you can come with me," that's all he needs to hear and he sounds pretty happy about it.


Exactly.  I always RP it as you are the first real friend he's ever had.  And again, romanced or not, he's found someone willing to stick up for and by him and he doesn't want to let that go.  Traveling for a little while maybe, but not to leave your PC behind forever.


That explanation actually makes me want to talk to him about getting him to +30 approval lol. Maybe I will this time around.


:o  Do you never make Zevran your friend?!


He's so boring! At least with Leliana, I know her romance ques and can avoid them. Zevran always ninja romances me, so I have to pay attention to his boring dialogue to avoid choosing the romance options. He's cool and all but -_-

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cmessaz wrote...

I hated him because my first playthrough he betrayed me.


Wait what?  Zev can betray you?!  

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Serissia wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

I hated him because my first playthrough he betrayed me.


Wait what?  Zev can betray you?!  



Yes, if your approval with him is under 30. he will turn on you when Talesin shows up.

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Serissia wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

I hated him because my first playthrough he betrayed me.


Wait what?  Zev can betray you?!  


Yup, when you get confronted by Telisan(Sp?). It's surprisingly easy to get betrayed by Zevran if you don't pay attention.

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I actually turned Zevran down when he was suggesting we could be more then friends

"Mode spoiler." he called me and now since I am trying to be friends with him I'm at +78 and I get "What say you?"

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You guys have missed out.  Zevran makes as good a friend as lover.

You know the bad part about this ending?  Well, one of them.  My PC first talked to Alistair about the ritual before backing down, and he sounds so relieved when you tell him you've changed your mind.  It's jarring, actually.  You would think he would at least be concerned that it might be one of your last nights together, ritual or not.

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:crying:  I'll never be able to look at Esra's screenshots the same way again.



On a different note, I've heard the theory that the little dog standing near Sten and your mabari at post-coronation could be Morrigan.  And you know, it does look a lot like the dog that Morrigan shape-shifts into when she leaves.

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Wow, learn something new every day. My companions always think I'm godlike doer of no wrongs and barer of grand gifts.

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I had him not fight with me once, but never betray me. And boring? Sheesh. My PCs always find his backstory fascinating, and they feel so, so, so sad for him.

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Serissia wrote...

Wow, learn something new every day. My companions always think I'm godlike doer of no wrongs and barer of grand gifts.

I had no idea what I was doing my first playthrough. I was PISSED! I didn't talk to Zev for at least 2 playthroughs, just tossed him a couple of gifts so he wouldn't betray me.

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Kryyptehk wrote...

Yup, when you get confronted by Telisan(Sp?). It's surprisingly easy to get betrayed by Zevran if you don't pay attention.

Only if you never talk to him and/or never give him any gifts.  He is very easy to get above 30, I think.  I usually have him at 100 or close every game, romanced or not.

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LadyDamodred wrote...

I had him not fight with me once, but never betray me. And boring? Sheesh. My PCs always find his backstory fascinating, and they feel so, so, so sad for him.


I've only heard his backstory once, when I was romancing him (:sick:) but that might be why I don't like talking to him. I never get to his good dialogue (without sleeping with him anyway). This time around I will take him everywhere and give him as many gifts as I can to see apparently very nuaced story.

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Addai67 wrote...

You guys have missed out.  Zevran makes as good a friend as lover.

You know the bad part about this ending?  Well, one of them.  My PC first talked to Alistair about the ritual before backing down, and he sounds so relieved when you tell him you've changed your mind.  It's jarring, actually.  You would think he would at least be concerned that it might be one of your last nights together, ritual or not.

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:crying:  I'll never be able to look at Esra's screenshots the same way again.



On a different note, I've heard the theory that the little dog standing near Sten and your mabari at post-coronation could be Morrigan.  And you know, it does look a lot like the dog that Morrigan shape-shifts into when she leaves.

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A bit. Like he is more relieved to be dying than living with the consequences of something unknown.
Really does have a bit of the martyr complex. Either that, or he has an unrealistic amount of faith in Riordan's ability to be the one to land the killing blow.

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Again, I didn't know what I was doing. I also got dumped by Alistair as a HNF and scrapped the whole character in a fit of rage over it.

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I agree those not trying to be Zev's friend are missing out. I used to not like him much, but now I think he is awesome (ridiculously so). He is in fact very smart, as you would find out if you take him along with you.

@ Addai. Yea the theory is highly plausible. I wonder how she managed to inflitrate the Imperial Court of Orlais. That shows she is politically savvy. A huge turn on...

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Addai67 wrote...

Kryyptehk wrote...

Yup, when you get confronted by Telisan(Sp?). It's surprisingly easy to get betrayed by Zevran if you don't pay attention.

Only if you never talk to him and/or never give him any gifts.  He is very easy to get above 30, I think.  I usually have him at 100 or close every game, romanced or not.


For some reason I can't get his approval above 40 without sleeping with him. I kinda gave up after a while when the only things I had left to say to him was inviting him into my tent. I'll track down his gifts this time around though.

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Addai67 wrote...

You guys have missed out.  Zevran makes as good a friend as lover.

You know the bad part about this ending?  Well, one of them.  My PC first talked to Alistair about the ritual before backing down, and he sounds so relieved when you tell him you've changed your mind.  It's jarring, actually.  You would think he would at least be concerned that it might be one of your last nights together, ritual or not.

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:crying:  I'll never be able to look at Esra's screenshots the same way again.



On a different note, I've heard the theory that the little dog standing near Sten and your mabari at post-coronation could be Morrigan.  And you know, it does look a lot like the dog that Morrigan shape-shifts into when she leaves.

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Yeah, Zevran makes a great friend.  On charcters that romance Alistair, Zev is their best friend.

And Alistair is relieved, I think partially b/c it might not seem real to him yet.  It's my RP reason for why he seems so happy about it.

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Now I always befriend him. I will romance him my next playthrough, but for some reason my stomach churns just thinking about it. Serissia's morph made it a bit more tolerable though.

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