Aller au contenu

Photo

Alistair, post-coronation... and/or Alistair gush thread (Origins/Awakening Spoilers)


  • Ce sujet est fermé Ce sujet est fermé
60083 réponses à ce sujet

#20551
sabreene

sabreene
  • Members
  • 1 966 messages

Vladiostroke wrote...

Kryyptehk wrote...

Vladiostroke wrote...

Someone explain to me, what's the thing about Alistair that makes you love him so much? I just find him annoying and rather ugly with his stupid haircut. I can only have him in my party with another face morph and hardened.


You are aware that the only thing that changes when he is hardened is the fact that he wants to be king and some minor romance dialogue, right?

It's sad that trolls make the rest of us Jack fans look bad.


It is a minor script change, but I think it's value is alot more than that. And I don't see how I'm ''trolling'', I am serious about my question and I don't really feel like going through 800 pages of people discussing a smile.


If you were actually looking for a serious answer, it's better not to come to a self-titled "gush" thread and call the subject of said gush annoying and ugly with a stupid haircut, and basically worthless unless he has a changed face and personality.

That said, the reason I love Alistair is rather undefined, sort of the reason why you like chocolate or the color blue. It makes you feel a certain way. Not to bring all characterization down to a choice of ice cream flavor, because it's much more complicated than that, but one person's vanilla is another's mint chocolate chip. The reasons I think he's cute and adorable may be the same reaons someone else finds him annoying.

The kudos for that go to the writers & developers of the game -- they've made characters similar to real people. Sometimes you like them, sometimes they bug the hell out of you :)

#20552
LadyDamodred

LadyDamodred
  • Members
  • 5 122 messages

cmessaz wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Which lie? There are so many to choose from!!!!!


Alistair's. Lies by someone she loved (her brother) is what got her exiled, he's the first person she trusted since losing everything, including her first love.

That too depends on my character. My other HNF didn't find out until Eamon told her, and she wasn't thrilled. She broke it off with him, because that particular character is pretty broken up about her family and being in love with the future king scares her.


This is one reason I as a player like to go to Redcliffe first.  That way Alistair tells you pretty soon and it makes it better than waiting, say, like 6+ months.  Not every character does it, though.

Posted Image

Modifié par LadyDamodred, 16 mai 2010 - 01:15 .


#20553
Lara Denton

Lara Denton
  • Members
  • 914 messages

sabreene wrote...

Posted Image

What mod is this? I'm talking about the blood.

:alien:

#20554
Rive Caedo

Rive Caedo
  • Members
  • 814 messages
If I had to take a guess, it's this mod:
http://social.biowar...t/2416/#details

Modifié par Rive Caedo, 16 mai 2010 - 02:04 .


#20555
Lara Denton

Lara Denton
  • Members
  • 914 messages

Rive Caedo wrote...

If I had to take a guess, it's this mod:
http://social.biowar...t/2416/#details

Looks like it, thank you.
On a side note, how do you find interesting mods on the social network? I'm always at a loss here....

To be on topic:  Alistair :wub:

:alien:

#20556
MelRedux

MelRedux
  • Members
  • 2 641 messages
Last night I finished my first mage playthrough (at 1 am...Posted ImagePosted Image).  It was the first run where Alistair breaks up with my PC after I make him king, and I the first time I didn't do the DR.  I know this has been talked about ad nauseum, but this is the first time I experieced it, so here are my thoughts:

WTF!?!?!? Posted Image

The breakup thing was fine, there was enough said to make it plausible.  And talking to him after is still super sad.  But no one in the party cares??  Stupid friends.

My real problem is the ending and the US.  Here's my recp:
"Well, here we are.  One of us is not making it out alive, it's been an honor.  And even though we are totally in love with each other, I'm not going to reference it at all, and instead, I'm going to look at that shiny thing over there and walk away.  Toodles!!"
...
"I'm taking the final blow!"
"No!  I'm taking the final blow!"
"I'm not giving you a choice! kthxbai!"
...
"Everyone's happy, you're a hero!"
"Wynne, I don't think Alistair is happy"
"Ah, yes him.  poor boy, that.  YAY!  You're a hero!!"
"Does anyone care that Alistair, the love of my live, is dead???"
<crickets>
...
Epilogue:  Alistair never existed.  THE END.

#20557
LadyDamodred

LadyDamodred
  • Members
  • 5 122 messages
Hahahaha.

Yes.

Edit:  He does reference being in love with you depending on certain dialogue choices when he goes to sacrifice himself.  It is quite sad.

Good lord, I cannot type this morning!

Modifié par LadyDamodred, 16 mai 2010 - 02:31 .


#20558
MelRedux

MelRedux
  • Members
  • 2 641 messages
Oh that stinks, totaaly missed any of that.  It was utterly disappointing, and gives me an excuse to never do it again.
LadyD, i think some screenies of my doppleganger and Alistair will amke me feel better Posted Image

#20559
LadyDamodred

LadyDamodred
  • Members
  • 5 122 messages

Mel_Redux wrote...

Oh that stinks, totaaly missed any of that.  It was utterly disappointing, and gives me an excuse to never do it again.
LadyD, i think some screenies of my doppleganger and Alistair will amke me feel better Posted Image


Ask and ye shall receive:
Posted Image
Posted Image

#20560
MelRedux

MelRedux
  • Members
  • 2 641 messages
YAY! I'm better now.

#20561
LadyDamodred

LadyDamodred
  • Members
  • 5 122 messages
This is how my WC ending always goes with a PC romancing Alistair:
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image

#20562
tmp7704

tmp7704
  • Members
  • 11 156 messages

Addai67 wrote...

Can I just say again how glad I am to have discovered tmp's mods. I've got the elf female proportions fix, the underwear model fix, the Dalish armor fix, and tucked hair. Basically, my elf is 100% more feminine and normal-looking. She has hips, a waist, and no baseball-mitt hands. It makes me happy.

Just a note, but if you have the proportions fix installed it's probably better to uninstall the dalish armour fix since the proportions project includes a more up-to-date version of it. Simplest way to do that is to delete the files which have name start with ef_ from the dalish_armour-fix sub-folder in the override directory. Posted Image

Gilsa wrote...

I do wonder why, for all the awesomeness that is tmp and the amazing mod abilities, tmp does not have an avatar or share screenshots of own characters? =p

I have 94 files used out of 100 available in the profile, and most of them was used to make the Kallian's story in 80 pictures page which i'm rather reluctant to twiddle with Posted Image  So most of regular screenshots stay on my hard drive, unless it's something funny enough to upload to photobucket.

#20563
LadyDamodred

LadyDamodred
  • Members
  • 5 122 messages
More incoming picture spam!
Posted Image
Posted Image

#20564
errant_knight

errant_knight
  • Members
  • 8 256 messages
And that's why I do the dark ritual each and every time! ;) No way I'm letting that happen. Damn stupid good king going off and dying like that--and for my PC! Bah! The ritual must be done.


#20565
LadyDamodred

LadyDamodred
  • Members
  • 5 122 messages

errant_knight wrote...

And that's why I do the dark ritual each and every time! ;) No way I'm letting that happen. Damn stupid good king going off and dying like that--and for my PC! Bah! The ritual must be done.


Exactly!

Morrigan:  "Hey, I have a way for you and Alistair to both survive tomorrow."
PC:  "Okay.  Let's do it."
Morrigan:  "You see, my-  Wait, what?  Just like that?"
PC:  "Yup.  Whatever you gotta do, let's do it."
Morrigan:  "Well....  I need to conceive a child with Alistair.  You need to-"
PC:  "BRB!"

#20566
tmp7704

tmp7704
  • Members
  • 11 156 messages

yukidama wrote...

I want to stab myself in the face. Every time I find a nice hair color I want to use it never works right for the vanilla hairstyles. I always get crazy bright white roots, someone shoot me >:|
Posted Image

Like sabreene pointed out, the white roots thing is caused by lack of stubble .tnt file to match the hair colour tint. Specifically, if you apply a hair colour like say, t3_har_red then the game tries also to apply 'stubble' tint named t1_stb_red to the scalp/hair roots. A cheap way to deal with it could be probably making simple copy of black or other dark colour stubble tint file and renaming it to what the game loooks for. Side benefit would be a bit more realistic hair roots Posted Image

Alternatively you can also take the t3_har_colour file you have applied to your character, make a copy of it and rename that copy to t1_stb_colour and it should work too.

(this is more convenient approach as it doesnt' require tweaking character morphs with Toolset, plus it will work for all future character who get this hair colour as well)

Modifié par tmp7704, 16 mai 2010 - 03:26 .


#20567
MelRedux

MelRedux
  • Members
  • 2 641 messages

LadyDamodred wrote...

This is how my WC ending always goes with a PC romancing Alistair:
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image


Mine was no where CLOSE to this.  It literally was "I know you said you'd take the final blow, but i'm doing it youcantstopmelaterz!"  If it was like what you posted, I think I'd feel more satisfied.  Guess I chose poorly Posted Image

#20568
LadyDamodred

LadyDamodred
  • Members
  • 5 122 messages
Mmm, in the talk with Rioradan, you said you would take the final blow, right? I didn't do that. Don't know if it affects it.

Now why the hell can't I find this conversation in the toolset?

Edit:  Apparently, Leliana doesn't like her thighs.  Looking through party banter, there are so many ones I haven't heard, even though I try to trigegr them all.  Does party order affect dialogue between them?  Or do some just not trigger.

Modifié par LadyDamodred, 16 mai 2010 - 03:34 .


#20569
Sarah1281

Sarah1281
  • Members
  • 15 280 messages

LadyDamodred wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

And that's why I do the dark ritual each and every time! ;) No way I'm letting that happen. Damn stupid good king going off and dying like that--and for my PC! Bah! The ritual must be done.


Exactly!

Morrigan:  "Hey, I have a way for you and Alistair to both survive tomorrow."
PC:  "Okay.  Let's do it."
Morrigan:  "You see, my-  Wait, what?  Just like that?"
PC:  "Yup.  Whatever you gotta do, let's do it."
Morrigan:  "Well....  I need to conceive a child with Alistair.  You need to-"
PC:  "BRB!"

That's how I end up doing it, too. I just wish you really could cut off her epic speech like this. It's like "You had me at 'loophole'" Posted Image

#20570
LadyDamodred

LadyDamodred
  • Members
  • 5 122 messages

Sarah1281 wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

And that's why I do the dark ritual each and every time! ;) No way I'm letting that happen. Damn stupid good king going off and dying like that--and for my PC! Bah! The ritual must be done.


Exactly!

Morrigan:  "Hey, I have a way for you and Alistair to both survive tomorrow."
PC:  "Okay.  Let's do it."
Morrigan:  "You see, my-  Wait, what?  Just like that?"
PC:  "Yup.  Whatever you gotta do, let's do it."
Morrigan:  "Well....  I need to conceive a child with Alistair.  You need to-"
PC:  "BRB!"

That's how I end up doing it, too. I just wish you really could cut off her epic speech like this. It's like "You had me at 'loophole'" Posted Image


Hehe.  For RP purposes, there is more discussion, lots more.  But it never crosses her mind not to take it.

#20571
Sarah1281

Sarah1281
  • Members
  • 15 280 messages

Hehe. For RP purposes, there is more discussion, lots more. But it never crosses her mind not to take it.

Yes, I needed to know that the baby wouldn't turn into a darkspawn but after that...details,details.

#20572
LadyDamodred

LadyDamodred
  • Members
  • 5 122 messages
Oh, wow.  You know one of those very first conversatiosn Alistair and Morrigan have.  "I have a wonder, Alistair, if you will indulge me."?  There is totally a dialogue tree for if he is hardened/parentage known that I never knew about.  Fascinating.

And I still can't find the conversation on top of fort drakon.

Modifié par LadyDamodred, 16 mai 2010 - 03:54 .


#20573
Addai

Addai
  • Members
  • 25 850 messages

errant_knight wrote...

And that's why I do the dark ritual each and every time! ;) No way I'm letting that happen. Damn stupid good king going off and dying like that--and for my PC! Bah! The ritual must be done.

Just stick the knife in deeper.  :(  I wasn't going to keep this stupid ending, but I had the sinking feeling when Morrigan was talking that it was just what my PC would do.  If I go back and change it now, it would feel false.  Call it Circle indoctrination kicking in, but she really wanted no part of Morrigan's "plan" and was confident in her ability to keep Riordan alive or, worst case scenario, force-field Alistair to keep him from doing it.

#20574
tmp7704

tmp7704
  • Members
  • 11 156 messages

LadyDamodred wrote...

And I still can't find the conversation on top of fort drakon.

It's in alistair_main dialogue file, look under the events branch ( IF: ALISTAIR_EVENT_ON ) for one which starts with "Wait."

#20575
Addai

Addai
  • Members
  • 25 850 messages

tmp7704 wrote...

Just a note, but if you have the proportions fix installed it's probably better to uninstall the dalish armour fix since the proportions project includes a more up-to-date version of it. Simplest way to do that is to delete the files which have

Alrighty!  Thank you.


Posted Image

Modifié par Addai67, 16 mai 2010 - 04:09 .