tmp7704 wrote...
It's in alistair_main dialogue file, look under the events branch ( IF: ALISTAIR_EVENT_ON ) for one which starts with "Wait."LadyDamodred wrote...
And I still can't find the conversation on top of fort drakon.
Modifié par Addai67, 16 mai 2010 - 04:15 .
Addai67 wrote...
Just stick the knife in deeper.errant_knight wrote...
And that's why I do the dark ritual each and every time!No way I'm letting that happen. Damn stupid good king going off and dying like that--and for my PC! Bah! The ritual must be done.
I wasn't going to keep this stupid ending, but I had the sinking feeling when Morrigan was talking that it was just what my PC would do. If I go back and change it now, it would feel false. Call it Circle indoctrination kicking in, but she really wanted no part of Morrigan's "plan" and was confident in her ability to keep Riordan alive or, worst case scenario, force-field Alistair to keep him from doing it.
Addai67 wrote...
My husband was telling me this morning that Loghain Redeemer ending had a funeral scene. I was about ready to firebomb Bioware's offices, but I see that it isn't true. I do think there's an epilogue slide about him being a big hero etc. No doubt that is Anora's doing. She's not about to do backflips to ensure that Alistair is remembered. Still, the son of Maric the Savior who ended the Blight... that ought to merit at least a weak "hurrah" in the epilogue. *mad*
My husband and I agreed that this ending was designed for the male PC who didn't care about Alistair and doesn't want to be upstaged even a smidge. You know, the same idiots all "zomg we get to kill Alistair" about the new DLC.
Modifié par sylvanaerie, 16 mai 2010 - 04:22 .
As I was thinking about what my PC would do, I think she would stick around in Denerim for a little while (NOT at court) in order to heal people. She's a spirit healer and immune to the taint, a lot of people would be dying of wounds and Blight poison. After that she would accompany Alistair's ashes *gulp* to Weisshaupt. At which point I think she would fall apart. Being a Warden without Alistair with her? No. Returning to a Circle Tower and sitting in lectures with those vapid lyrium suckers? Maker, no. Returning to Ferelden at all and having everyone call her the Hero? She might do that in a masochistic bid to drive the knife deeper, but probably not. If they aren't going to recognize their true hero, they aren't getting the other one, either.sylvanaerie wrote...
Then for WC...everyone is throwing a freaking party and hailing the PC as the big hero. Not a word about the man who ACTUALLY killed the damn thing. And Wynne's throwaway line about "the poor boy" bleh.
Yes, it must be all about stroking the male PC ego and getting to kill Alistair/Loghain and remaining alpha male. I can think of no other reason (aside from that bong water theory of mine) that they would do this.
For those who really hate Alistair...yea Loghain gets a "hero" card and Al gets absolutely nothing.
I don't know what to make of all that "the soul of the Grey Warden is destroyed." If it's true, then maybe something like that would happen to her, i.e. wandering the Fade.
Addai67 wrote...
As I was thinking about what my PC would do, I think she would stick around in Denerim for a little while (NOT at court) in order to heal people. She's a spirit healer and immune to the taint, a lot of people would be dying of wounds and Blight poison. After that she would accompany Alistair's ashes *gulp* to Weisshaupt. At which point I think she would fall apart. Being a Warden without Alistair with her? No. Returning to a Circle Tower and sitting in lectures with those vapid lyrium suckers? Maker, no. Returning to Ferelden at all and having everyone call her the Hero? She might do that in a masochistic bid to drive the knife deeper, but probably not. If they aren't going to recognize their true hero, they aren't getting the other one, either.sylvanaerie wrote...
Then for WC...everyone is throwing a freaking party and hailing the PC as the big hero. Not a word about the man who ACTUALLY killed the damn thing. And Wynne's throwaway line about "the poor boy" bleh.
Yes, it must be all about stroking the male PC ego and getting to kill Alistair/Loghain and remaining alpha male. I can think of no other reason (aside from that bong water theory of mine) that they would do this.
For those who really hate Alistair...yea Loghain gets a "hero" card and Al gets absolutely nothing.
So, I think that fanfic someone linked, The Sanest Thing, has it about right. From Weisshaupt to the Deep Roads. Hopefully she wouldn't end up stuck in the Fade like Katriel.
Addai67 wrote...
As I was thinking about what my PC would do, I think she would stick around in Denerim for a little while (NOT at court) in order to heal people. She's a spirit healer and immune to the taint, a lot of people would be dying of wounds and Blight poison. After that she would accompany Alistair's ashes *gulp* to Weisshaupt. At which point I think she would fall apart. Being a Warden without Alistair with her? No. Returning to a Circle Tower and sitting in lectures with those vapid lyrium suckers? Maker, no. Returning to Ferelden at all and having everyone call her the Hero? She might do that in a masochistic bid to drive the knife deeper, but probably not. If they aren't going to recognize their true hero, they aren't getting the other one, either.sylvanaerie wrote...
Then for WC...everyone is throwing a freaking party and hailing the PC as the big hero. Not a word about the man who ACTUALLY killed the damn thing. And Wynne's throwaway line about "the poor boy" bleh.
Yes, it must be all about stroking the male PC ego and getting to kill Alistair/Loghain and remaining alpha male. I can think of no other reason (aside from that bong water theory of mine) that they would do this.
For those who really hate Alistair...yea Loghain gets a "hero" card and Al gets absolutely nothing.
So, I think that fanfic someone linked, The Sanest Thing, has it about right. From Weisshaupt to the Deep Roads. Hopefully she wouldn't end up stuck in the Fade like Katriel.
Could you be a Warden, though, if it reminded you of Alistair every day? As his non-king epilogue says with the US ending, after a time he realizes that it isn't the same.SurelyForth wrote...
I've never really thought about what any of my PCs would do in the event of the WC ending because all of them are too selfish to let it happen for reals. Since I'm a "keep busy, busy, busy so time flies by and you get through this faster" sort when things are rough, or I've had my heart broken, I'd be inclined to steer my characters back towards the Wardens. It would be a distraction and give them a renewed sense of purpose after losing some of that after the Blight.
Modifié par Addai67, 16 mai 2010 - 04:51 .
I could see Esra staying in Orzammar a while and accompanying dwarven companies to fight the darkspawn. At least in Orzammar, people wouldn't fawn over her as something she's not. I just don't see her trying too hard to stay alive while she's down there. She wasn't supposed to be alone in the Deep Roads. I think Alistair would understand that she did her best but couldn't go on. He doesn't, either, if his LI dies and all he has is the Wardens.sylvanaerie wrote...
Being a warden again. Well its not like she has a choice, she IS a warden, that won't change or go away no matter how much she hates (or loves it). So she would do what she could fighting darkspawn. Maybe even go help the dwarves push back the numbers and reclaim some thaigs. (I can esp see dwarven wardens doing this at least the noble ones, not sure about what my commoner would feel on the matter).
But killing herself No. I just don't see it.
Modifié par cmessaz, 16 mai 2010 - 05:03 .
cmessaz wrote...
You guys make me sad.
Go read my fanfic. Its US with Alistair's life afterward but its actually hopeful and sweet. Its posted now. You read the first three chapterscmessaz wrote...
You guys make me sad. Screenshot time
I read that but have never heard it in game...LadyDamodred wrote...
Oh. My. God.
Wynne and Oghren talking about Alistair being a pike-twirler. XD
LadyDamodred wrote...
Oh. My. God.
Wynne and Oghren talking about Alistair being a pike-twirler. XD
I'm making me sad, too.cmessaz wrote...
You guys make me sad.
cmessaz wrote...
I read that but have never heard it in game...LadyDamodred wrote...
Oh. My. God.
Wynne and Oghren talking about Alistair being a pike-twirler. XD
Addai67 wrote...
Could you be a Warden, though, if it reminded you of Alistair every day? As his non-king epilogue says with the US ending, after a time he realizes that it isn't the same.SurelyForth wrote...
I've never really thought about what any of my PCs would do in the event of the WC ending because all of them are too selfish to let it happen for reals. Since I'm a "keep busy, busy, busy so time flies by and you get through this faster" sort when things are rough, or I've had my heart broken, I'd be inclined to steer my characters back towards the Wardens. It would be a distraction and give them a renewed sense of purpose after losing some of that after the Blight.
I realize that it's easy to get melodramatic and that lots of ordinary people go on after a death, but I figure the taint would make it more difficult to overcome. Some people like Genevieve could just die inside and lose it later on, some like Duncan get over it and throw themselves into being a Warden, and then there are the Juliens who just can't. For whatever reason, I can't play a duty-bound Warden. Call me Captain Emo.
Well, probably the same reason the post-shade dialogue doesn't work, they didn't get around to actually adding it to the game.LadyDamodred wrote...
cmessaz wrote...
I read that but have never heard it in game...LadyDamodred wrote...
Oh. My. God.
Wynne and Oghren talking about Alistair being a pike-twirler. XD
There are alot I have never heard, despite my best efforts to trigger all of them. Hence me wodnering how important party order is or if there's a reason they don't trigger.
syl: How old is the main character supposed to be? I was terribly confused. :x
A child. I was thinking at first to make her 12 but thats almost an adult. So I dropped her to about 8 or so in my mind. Its deliberately left vague for the reader.LadyDamodred wrote...
cmessaz wrote...
I read that but have never heard it in game...LadyDamodred wrote...
Oh. My. God.
Wynne and Oghren talking about Alistair being a pike-twirler. XD
There are alot I have never heard, despite my best efforts to trigger all of them. Hence me wodnering how important party order is or if there's a reason they don't trigger.
syl: How old is the main character supposed to be? I was terribly confused. :x
I think an HN character could do that, because you are raised with an internal sense of the importance of those things and an intactness of character from having had a real family. My PC is more of a Zevran, minus the torture and murders. No one cared about her until Alistair.SurelyForth wrote...
I think I could remain a Warden because it reminds me of Alistair. It's what he wanted to do with his life and it gives my PC the opportunity to shape the Ferelden order into something worthy of his memory. It's also a way to rebuild a sense of family. With companions scattering and home either destroyed or defiled, that's the secondary concern after losing Alistair.
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