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[LadyDamodred]

That sounds like an awesome mod. The only one I would want more would be a 'skipp the friggin' deep roads' mod.

Want!

ARGH!  Ok, I am out of Alistair pics at the moment, so enjoy a tiny woman:

Modifié par LadyDamodred, 14 avril 2010 - 06:50 .

[mellifera]

LadyDamodred wrote...

yukidama wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Yeah, it's why I never really make too big a deal about the whole heir thing. If Anora can be left on the throne by herself without ever remarrying and providing heirs, if HNM can be king, if you can tell Alistair that making an heir isn't necessary and he responds positively... I don't see why continuing the line has to be necessary or why an heir cannot be named later. There's always Fergus and his potential future kids Get a better excuse for breaking up with me if you're hardened, unhardened I can understand though.

From an RP perspective I guess they'll try but select someone when nothing happens. I guess I shouldn't expect much in terms of reaction from Ferelden, since apparently their Queen or King can go missing and they're just all just "LOL WELL THEY'RE OFF ADVENTURING THE STORY ISN'T OVER YET :B"

Well, to be fair, Anora ignoring her duty doesn't make it right for Alistair to do so.  It's something that shows what seperates how Alistair and Anora do their duty to Ferelden.  Anora will not do anything that jeopardizes her power.  Alistair, otoh, always puts his duty first, over and above any personal concerns he has.  It's just who he is.  He will do his duty, regardless of the cost to himself.

Now, if you take some of that burden from him, by either making youself queen or fighting to keep him, he understands that his duty doesn't have to be defined in such a narrow way.

Oh, of course that doesn't make it ok for him to do it. I'm quite glad he isn't like Anora! I am just saying it isn't necessarily as big a deal as people would make it seem in certain situations. I can understand if he is the sole king, but the whole needing an heir thing doesn't necessarily matter across the board IMO.

I never make him king if I don't plan on making my character queen exactly for that reason. If my character isn't queen there is more of a sense of necessity there than otherwise. I am just saying that the whole "Theirin" bloodline excuse many people throw around doesn't seem to be as big an issue, and if Alistair and the Warden are ruling together they can always name an heir if they can't provide one through natural means. They're not shirking their duties, just going through them by going down a different route. Their ascent to the throne wasn't exactly a textbook situation either, haha.

Mostly it's just the whole "why put yourself on the throne if your Warden can't make babies she's a selfish failure because she can't get pregnant" thing that makes me want to slam my face into my desk, since there are so many alternatives.

Oh, I agree with you.  I'm just talking about Alistair needing a better excuse if he's hardened.  I disagree witht hat part.  Hardened never changes what he feels his duty is.  It just makes him more willing to compromise his own personal standards/morals to keep the woman he loves.

Man, we're bad, bad people.  XD

Yeah, I kinda don't even agree with what I said about the better excuse either. Thinking about it more it seems kind of difficult to get Alistair to stick to the "blah blah heir I have to break up with you" when hardened, since I've only ever had it happen once when I was trying to make it happen. I guess I was just going off on a lot of the responses I have heard from others, who make the HNF queen seem like the biggest, most selfish loser jerk out there. I love both the Queen and run off to rebuild the Wardens endings, unless you sacrifice yourself it seems any ending is a bit selfish (and after killing the Archdemon I think you reserve the right!)

I never said I was good :innocent: Plus, there are worse alternatives.

Modifié par yukidama, 14 avril 2010 - 06:49 .

[Addai]

sylvanaerie wrote...

Does he still say his line about dumping her in the river if you surrender? or does Wynne's line just override it?  I've never been able to go kill Howe without Al and Wynne.  Might on my current playthrough though Just to see.  Maybe take Sten and Morrigan with me this time.

I think it's only if Anora rats you out, and it is possible that Wynne overrides but not sure about that.  Alistair will override if he's not in the party. 

I don't take Wynne anywhere I don't absolutely have to.  Can't stand her blather anymore! 

[cmessaz]

LadyDamodred wrote...

That sounds like an awesome mod. The only one I would want more would be a 'skipp the friggin' deep roads' mod.

Want!

Again I will say, in order to make the deep roads fun: Be a mage, download armageddon spells and some over-powered robes, and the unlimited skill book mod. Then, leave everyone at camp. FUN! But unless you enjoy being seriously overpowered, the fun ends after the deep roads.

[LadyDamodred]

yukidama wrote...
Yeah, I kinda don't even agree with what I said about the better excuse either. Thinking about it more it seems kind of difficult to get Alistair to stick to the "blah blah heir I have to break up with you" when hardened, since I've only ever had it happen once when I was trying to make it happen. I guess I was just going off on a lot of the responses I have heard from others, who make the HNF queen seem like the biggest, most selfish loser jerk out there. I love both the Queen and run off to rebuild the Wardens endings, unless you sacrifice yourself it seems any ending is a bit selfish (and after killing the Archdemon I think you reserve the right!)

I never said I was good :innocent: Plus, there are worse alternatives.

Do I think making yourself queen is selfish?  Yes, a bit.  It was something I addressed in a one-shot fanfic.  There is nothing wrong with being a little bit selfish.  My character has given up everything else in her life, she is keeping something for herself, dagnabbit!  It's either queen, mistress or BFF in some power role for me b/c I cannot bring myself to put Anora on the throne.  She only gets it when Alistair dies, and so help me, if I could take it from her I would.

I wish that were an option.  "You and me at dawn with swords, Anora.  She who does not die gets to be queen."

[nos_astra]

LadyDamodred wrote...
I wish that were an option.  "You and me at dawn with swords, Anora.  She who does not die gets to be queen."

I'm sure this would go over well for Anora.

Modifié par klarabella, 14 avril 2010 - 06:56 .

[cmessaz]

LadyDamodred, where is that screenshot? I don't remember anything like that.

[LadyDamodred]

cmessaz wrote...

LadyDamodred, where is that screenshot? I don't remember anything like that.

It's a bug that happens.  NPCs will suddenly be tiny for not reason.  The best one was on my friend's PS3 game and it involved the templar who was arguing with the Chasind in Lothering.  he turned to walk away and was suddenly tiny.  Like, normal sized torso, TEENY ITTY BITTY LEGS!  He came up to maybe her hip and it was freaking hilarious.  Tiny Templar!

[Thor Rand Al]

sylvanaerie wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Is there really a dude standing in the adjacent cell? I have never noticed that before.

OMG neither have i!  Can he be interacted with?

He's basically a stand-in for Alistair in that you talk to him to tell the game whether you want to break out, who you want to come rescue you, etc.

The other nice thing is that if he's not in the party when you're captured, Alistair sort of growls at Anora when she gets back and does her bit with Eamon.  Not as satisfying as Zevran's line there (where he implies that she's going to be swimming with the fishes any minute now), unfortunately.

Does he still say his line about dumping her in the river if you surrender? or does Wynne's line just override it?  I've never been able to go kill Howe without Al and Wynne.  Might on my current playthrough though Just to see.  Maybe take Sten and Morrigan with me this time.

My last playthrough I had Dog, Zev and Lel with me when I went to kill Howe.  Very rarely do I take Wynne or even Alistair anymore.  My PC's way of thinking is if something goes wrong and I do end up getting blamed for whatever happens at Howe's, with Alistair a candidate to the throne it would not be a good idea if he's involved.  So instead sometimes he becomes my Knight in shinning armour and rescues me. 

I loved the last rescue.  I had Alistair and Lel come rescue me and Lel made a comment to Aistair about trusting her and Alistair goes "I hate it when you say that."  That got me going lmao

[LadyDamodred]

klarabella wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...
I wish that were an option.  "You and me at dawn with swords, Anora.  She who does not die gets to be queen."

I'm sure this would go over well for Anora.

Apparently, Loghain was like Bryce Cousland.  Browsing through conversations, he will tell you that she was trained in swordplay and archery.  I was kind of surprised at first, but then the more I thought about it, the more it made sense.  Loghain would have made sure his daughter could defend herself.  *shrugs* Makes me hate her even more for turning on/using him like she does.

[mellifera]

LadyDamodred wrote...

yukidama wrote...
Yeah, I kinda don't even agree with what I said about the better excuse either. Thinking about it more it seems kind of difficult to get Alistair to stick to the "blah blah heir I have to break up with you" when hardened, since I've only ever had it happen once when I was trying to make it happen. I guess I was just going off on a lot of the responses I have heard from others, who make the HNF queen seem like the biggest, most selfish loser jerk out there. I love both the Queen and run off to rebuild the Wardens endings, unless you sacrifice yourself it seems any ending is a bit selfish (and after killing the Archdemon I think you reserve the right!)

I never said I was good :innocent: Plus, there are worse alternatives.

Do I think making yourself queen is selfish?  Yes, a bit.  It was something I addressed in a one-shot fanfic.  There is nothing wrong with being a little bit selfish.  My character has given up everything else in her life, she is keeping something for herself, dagnabbit!  It's either queen, mistress or BFF in some power role for me b/c I cannot bring myself to put Anora on the throne.  She only gets it when Alistair dies, and so help me, if I could take it from her I would.

I wish that were an option.  "You and me at dawn with swords, Anora.  She who does not die gets to be queen."

Yeah. I think you reserve the right to be a bit selfish. It's not like you suddenly declare yourself The Maker II, Queen and Mistress of all Thedas and Creator of the Sun or whatever. You put someone you think will make a good king on the throne and rule alongside him either because you love him, you can help him be even better or both. I don't think Ferelden is being deprived by not having an Alistair/Warden kid on the throne, if you can name any number of suitable heirs.

My 'run off to rebuild the Wardens' characters are more selfish IMO, since I hate Anora but I can't bring myself to put unhardened Alistair on the throne. Especially if I can't be queen (and I never harden Alistair if I'm not playing HNF, bad bad bad )

[cmessaz]

Is Morrigan and Sten glitched for anyone else during the rescue scene? Sten is freaking hilareous. Just don't depend on him if you plan to be discreet.

[LadyDamodred]

I never leave Alistair unhardened on any character. I just can't bring myself to do it. I feel too bad for him. And I agree rebuilding the wardens is a mroe selfish ending.

[Thor Rand Al]

SurelyForth wrote...

Thor Rand Al wrote...


How many attribute points do you get using that mod?

All of them (21 in total). You also get all of the XP and Codex entries.

So there's 21 attribute statue thingy's in the fade, (I've never counted lol)?  Sorry if I being confusing but I'm wondering if that mod would even be worth it.  I found a lil ugh, it's not really a cheat but if you click on the statue thingy's fast enough you can get up to 2-10 attribute points.  1 of them I lost count after 10 lol so I'm not sure how many I got.

[Thor Rand Al]

cmessaz wrote...


You get my email?
Sorry! I meant that towards Thor.

Not yet I'm still catching up with this post lmao.  Looks like I'm almost done

[cmessaz]

Good luck with that!

[Bratt1204]

cmessaz wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

That sounds like an awesome mod. The only one I would want more would be a 'skipp the friggin' deep roads' mod.

Want!

Again I will say, in order to make the deep roads fun: Be a mage, download armageddon spells and some over-powered robes, and the unlimited skill book mod. Then, leave everyone at camp. FUN! But unless you enjoy being seriously overpowered, the fun ends after the deep roads.

Oooh, that does sound like fun 

[Thor Rand Al]

LadyDamodred wrote...

yukidama wrote...
Yeah, I kinda don't even agree with what I said about the better excuse either. Thinking about it more it seems kind of difficult to get Alistair to stick to the "blah blah heir I have to break up with you" when hardened, since I've only ever had it happen once when I was trying to make it happen. I guess I was just going off on a lot of the responses I have heard from others, who make the HNF queen seem like the biggest, most selfish loser jerk out there. I love both the Queen and run off to rebuild the Wardens endings, unless you sacrifice yourself it seems any ending is a bit selfish (and after killing the Archdemon I think you reserve the right!)

I never said I was good :innocent: Plus, there are worse alternatives.

Do I think making yourself queen is selfish?  Yes, a bit.  It was something I addressed in a one-shot fanfic.  There is nothing wrong with being a little bit selfish.  My character has given up everything else in her life, she is keeping something for herself, dagnabbit!  It's either queen, mistress or BFF in some power role for me b/c I cannot bring myself to put Anora on the throne.  She only gets it when Alistair dies, and so help me, if I could take it from her I would.

I wish that were an option.  "You and me at dawn with swords, Anora.  She who does not die gets to be queen."

That I'd lik to see.  On my one and only playthrough I did that Alistair sacrificed himself I had made him King and i was to rule beside him.  Well he did his stupid sacrifice thing and I went back to and that damn snake was on the throne.  I was already pist at Alistair by then for dying, (didn't know about leaving him at the gate yet) and the fact that thing was in Alistair's righful place didn't go over to well, and then no one had a damn thing to say about Alistair. That put me in a rage lmao.  I swore to never do that killing scene with Alistair again lmao

[cmessaz]

Bratt1204 wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

That sounds like an awesome mod. The only one I would want more would be a 'skipp the friggin' deep roads' mod.

Want!

Again I will say, in order to make the deep roads fun: Be a mage, download armageddon spells and some over-powered robes, and the unlimited skill book mod. Then, leave everyone at camp. FUN! But unless you enjoy being seriously overpowered, the fun ends after the deep roads.

Oooh, that does sound like fun 

Yeah, giant boulders dropping on you enemies, sparks emminating from your body hitting every enemy in sight. Great fun!

[LadyDamodred]

So what is this skip the fade mod? Does it just bypass when you meet the sloth demon?

[mellifera]

LadyDamodred wrote...

I never leave Alistair unhardened on any character. I just can't bring myself to do it. I feel too bad for him. And I agree rebuilding the wardens is a mroe selfish ending.

To be honest hardening is mostly metagaming, otherwise none of my characters (or even myself if I didn't know it triggered hardening) would choose that line over the others. I may go the unhardened route for this HNF I am playing, dunno.  I also like having a lot of options, haha.

Haha, I still like that ending. I find it easier to skip town and rebuild the Wardens as a non HN, I don't really feel any sense of allegiance or duty to the crown in those cases.

[cmessaz]

LadyDamodred wrote...

So what is this skip the fade mod? Does it just bypass when you meet the sloth demon?

You actually still rescue everyone from their nightmares, then fight the sloth demon. You just skip everything before that.

[cmessaz]

http://www.dragonage...file.php?id=816
Here is the link to skip the fade.

[SurelyForth]

LadyDamodred wrote...

So what is this skip the fade mod? Does it just bypass when you meet the sloth demon?

You go to the Fade, fight Duncan and then get transported to your companions' nightmares. After that, you fight the sloth demon and you're out.

[mellifera]

LadyDamodred wrote...

So what is this skip the fade mod? Does it just bypass when you meet the sloth demon?

Modifié par yukidama, 14 avril 2010 - 07:18 .