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[Herr Uhl]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

I find it funny that they made Alistair decide the choices that the majority consider "bad" (I don't, but I don't see how he would do it). Is this supposed to teach us a lesson or something?

Ok, I will officially ask for all of your signatures in a collective and united declaration that all content in this DLC will not be considered at all worthwhile and is purely irrelevent. That means that I will not consider Alistair sparing Howe and slaughtering the Dalish and other decisions, nor will I consider that Alsitair secretly loves Leliana. In reciprocation, you people will not question Morrigan's invincibility and immortality, nor will you assume that she made Alistair's choices, as they evidently led to distaster.

I will be the first to sign. ~KoP~

Morrigan is very much mortal, Alastair could grow to like Leliana and Alastair isn't a good leader.

I thought that much was evident after Origins.

[Kryyptehk]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Wait...KoP you mean your admitting defeat just to preserve her status quo?

The Illusive Man disapproves - 10000
Morrigan disapproves -10, and approves 5

You have to remember KoP is a man. A weak man, but a man. Any man can be swayed by the woman he loves.

If only TIM could see that

[cmessaz]

klarabella wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...
I wonder if Howe was alive...does that mean Anora was dead? I know Loghain wouldn't have killed his daughter but given half a chance Howe sure would have. Is that how Alistair became the king? no one opposed it?

And the Beard said: Thou shall not wonder for there is no sense ... AT ALL!

I'm going with the beard on this one.

[sylvanaerie]

klarabella wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...
I wonder if Howe was alive...does that mean Anora was dead? I know Loghain wouldn't have killed his daughter but given half a chance Howe sure would have. Is that how Alistair became the king? no one opposed it?

And the Beard said: Thou shall not wonder for there is no sense ... AT ALL!

True, the words of the Beard trump all...Brain explosion from overdose of stupid averted.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Kryyptehk wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

I find it funny that they made Alistair decide the choices that the majority consider "bad" (I don't, but I don't see how he would do it). Is this supposed to teach us a lesson or something?

Ok, I will officially ask for all of your signatures in a collective and united declaration that all content in this DLC will not be considered at all worthwhile and is purely irrelevent. That means that I will not consider Alistair sparing Howe and slaughtering the Dalish and other decisions, nor will I consider that Alsitair secretly loves Leliana. In reciprocation, you people will not question Morrigan's invincibility and immortality, nor will you assume that she made Alistair's choices, as they evidently led to distaster.

I will be the first to sign. ~KoP~

Those are some pretty strict quidelines. And it seems pretty one sided. You won't get my signature until negotiations are done.

Ok.
 
-I will not consider Alsitair to be an extremily inefficient leader, thus a very poor king (see my Monarchic future thread, where I actually say making Alsitair king to be a not bad choice).

- I will not think that Alistair is a fool of a hypocrit. Who whines when we kill either Isolde or Connor, while he has no problems doing it.

- I will not think that Alistair massacred the Dalish, including Children.

- I will not think that Alistair spared Howe.

- I will not think that Alistair has very poor micromanagement skills (didn't even bother to make Leliana dress up properly for battle).

- I will not think that alistair whinign about Eamon is anotehr hypocritical rant, as he doesn't bother doing anything for him.

- I will not think that Alistair is either: A - a coward for not expressing his love for Leliana when the PC is a male.
B- That Alsitair is actually thinking about Leliana when he is doing it with your PC.

Good enough? Or still one sided?

[Lady Jess]

Gilsa wrote...

Did they say why Oghren was in Denerim? He was giving up everything by going to the surface so I had wondered if there was a codex for him or if he was just conveniently there for the PC to kill en route.

[cmessaz]

[KnightofPhoenix]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Wait...KoP you mean your admitting defeat just to preserve her status quo?

The Illusive Man disapproves - 10000
Morrigan disapproves -10, and approves 5

What defeat?

If Morrigan was the one who advised Alistair, that means she had very poor advice.

And TIM wouldn't dissaprove. The Status quo shows that without the PC, everyone fails, and TIM would approve.

[Sarah1281]

At least Alistair told Zevran to buzz off. That seems a bit believable.

It's also really stupid. He doesn't know Zevran and has no reason to trust him. Zevran says that he'll be killed for failing and asks to come with them for protection. If Alistair just tells him to get lost then he has no reason to believe Zevran won't try again to try and save his life. Even if he were lying about his life being in danger, why would being defeated once by a man who didn't kill him stop him from trying to complete the job? That's quite possibly the worst way to handle the Zevran encounter.

[Addai]

yukidama wrote...

Logic, none, don't bother, etc.

I'll sign your petition.  KoP's has too much verbiage, he must be in law school.

[Kryyptehk]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Kryyptehk wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

I find it funny that they made Alistair decide the choices that the majority consider "bad" (I don't, but I don't see how he would do it). Is this supposed to teach us a lesson or something?

Ok, I will officially ask for all of your signatures in a collective and united declaration that all content in this DLC will not be considered at all worthwhile and is purely irrelevent. That means that I will not consider Alistair sparing Howe and slaughtering the Dalish and other decisions, nor will I consider that Alsitair secretly loves Leliana. In reciprocation, you people will not question Morrigan's invincibility and immortality, nor will you assume that she made Alistair's choices, as they evidently led to distaster.

I will be the first to sign. ~KoP~

Those are some pretty strict quidelines. And it seems pretty one sided. You won't get my signature until negotiations are done.

Ok.
 
-I will not consider Alsitair to be an extremily inefficient leader, thus a very poor king (see my Monarchic future thread, where I actually say making Alsitair king to be a not bad choice).

- I will not think that Alistair is a fool of a hypocrit. Who whines when we kill either Isolde or Connor, while he has no problems doing it.

- I will not think that Alistair massacred the Dalish, including Children.

- I will not think that Alistair spared Howe.

- I will not think that Alistair has very poor micromanagement skills (didn't even bother to make Leliana dress up properly for battle).

- I will not think that alistair whinign about Eamon is anotehr hypocritical rant, as he doesn't bother doing anything for him.

- I will not think that Alistair is either: A - a coward for not expressing his love for Leliana when the PC is a male.
B- That Alsitair is actually thinking about Leliana when he is doing it with your PC.

Good enough? Or still one sided?

Hmmmmm....

Morrigan at least told him to side with the templars, because you know how much she hates the circle mages. In exchange, I will not make any comments regarding the fact that she is a political numbskull, since she thinks she can just walk up to Loghain and kill him.

Yes, I think this will do nicely.

[nos_astra]

And you know what is incredibly funny? Or pathetic more like?

Before today I had no intention to buy the damn crappy DLC. Now I bought it on impulse (shipping squee causes brain melting) and regret it because I feel I've destroyed my integrity and betrayed Alistair and insulted my intelligence. And all on the same night.

And best of all, Bioware will think: Damn, so many people bpught DC, let's make more like this. NOOOOOOO! And it's all my fault.

Modifié par klarabella, 18 mai 2010 - 09:06 .

[Serissia]

You'll need to do right click then view image to see that.

Did anyone get one for Sten, Leliana, Morrigan or Alistair?

Modifié par Serissia, 18 mai 2010 - 09:06 .

[sylvanaerie]

sooo its tuesday...anyone have any good NBA or Dismemberment shots?

[Kryyptehk]

klarabella wrote...

And you know what is incredibly funny? Or pathetic more like?

Before today I had no intention to buy the damn crappy DLC. Now I bought it on impulse (shipping squee causes brain melting) and regret it because I feel I've destroyed my integrity and betrayed Alistair and insulted my intelligence. And all on the same night.

And best of all, Bioware will think: Damn, so many people bpught DC, let's make more like this. NOOOOOOO! And it's all my fault.

Allllllllll your fault, klara. You have caused the destruction of modern gaming.

[Sarah1281]

Lady Jess wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

Did they say why Oghren was in Denerim? He was giving up everything by going to the surface so I had wondered if there was a codex for him or if he was just conveniently there for the PC to kill en route.

Is it just me or is that very reminiscent of the Alistair-as-drunk-exile ending? I don't like it.

If Morrigan was the one who advised Alistair, that means she had very poor advice. 

Or Alistair can take good advice and still fail. Or would his using mages, dwaves, and Dalish (the less powerful choices, remember) cause him to win?

Ok.
-I will not consider Alsitair to be an extremily inefficient leader, thus a very poor king (see my Monarchic future thread, where I actually say making Alsitair king to be a not bad choice).
- I will not think that Alistair is a fool of a hypocrit. Who whines when we kill either Isolde or Connor, while he has no problems doing it.
- I will not think that Alistair massacred the Dalish, including Children.
- I will not think that Alistair spared Howe.
- I will not think that Alistair has very poor micromanagement skills (didn't even bother to make Leliana dress up properly for battle).
- I will not think that alistair whinign about Eamon is anotehr hypocritical rant, as he doesn't bother doing anything for him.
- I will not think that Alistair is either: A - a coward for not expressing his love for Leliana when the PC is a male.
B- That Alsitair is actually thinking about Leliana when he is doing it with your PC.
Good enough? Or still one sided?

I think now it's one-sided in the other direction. I mean, all that just so Morrigan could never possibly die?

[Lady Jess]

Addai67 wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

OK, my official opinion for what its worth: Story disaster. Totally unbelievable. But not as bad as I expected. It is fun, but it's just a carnage fest, good thing it was only 5 bucks because I honestly don't feel the need to ever play again.

Probably only nerds like me care, but every time they screw with the story even for mindless "fun", it makes me less willing to buy in the future.  If they don't respect their own material, how do they expect fans to?

Maybe the joke is on me thinking that a video game can actually be somewhat literate and deep rather than buffoonish.  I hate them that they actually made me like a favorite character less with this idiotic DLC.  Better never to see Alistair in another installment again, I think.

Is your D:O Alistair ever going to do thse things? No. He isn't because YOU are there. The whole thing is how your PC effects those around him/her. This Alistair is not, nor ever will be OUR Alistair. Not now, not in the next installment. And it may not respect the fans of the story, but it DOES respect the fans of the hack n slash/evil villains portion of the game. They've had their turn, it only makes sense the rest of us will have ours.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Addai67 wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Logic, none, don't bother, etc.

I'll sign your petition.  KoP's has too much verbiage, he must be in law school.

Close, political science.

[cmessaz]

I know whats up with Alistair if you guys are curious.

[shedevil3001]

very curious

[cmessaz]

He did become king by agreeing to marry Anora. No mention of Leliana in HIS codex though.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Sarah1281 wrote...
 I think now it's one-sided in the other direction. I mean, all that just so Morrigan could never possibly die?

Yes
A single tarnish on Morrigan's reputation is worth more than a million Alistair heads impaled on pikes with the word "FAIL" carved on his face.

[Kryyptehk]

cmessaz wrote...

I know whats up with Alistair if you guys are curious.

Do tell.

[Maria13]

Addai67 wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

OK, my official opinion for what its worth: Story disaster. Totally unbelievable. But not as bad as I expected. It is fun, but it's just a carnage fest, good thing it was only 5 bucks because I honestly don't feel the need to ever play again.

Probably only nerds like me care, but every time they screw with the story even for mindless "fun", it makes me less willing to buy in the future.  If they don't respect their own material, how do they expect fans to?

Maybe the joke is on me thinking that a video game can actually be somewhat literate and deep rather than buffoonish.  I hate them that they actually made me like a favorite character less with this idiotic DLC.  Better never to see Alistair in another installment again, I think.

I really do agree with you.  Wonder what David Gaider thinks?

Another thing that really, really rankles DAO managed to bring in female gamers like no other game and now... They've just lost it, might as well play Modern Warfare or some of those other mindless hack 'n' slashers. Here's me trying to convince people that games can be intelligent, emotionally involving and challenging and they go and do this...

Bitter.  You bet.

[cmessaz]

Kryyptehk wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

I know whats up with Alistair if you guys are curious.

Do tell.

I did but it was buried. go up a bit.