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cmessaz wrote...

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I can speak English and German, and some Spanish. But I really would rather learn Klingon, to be honest.

I had that book years back.



My copy lays somewhere buried amongst my mother's things in storage.

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Ugh. This is getting kind of dumb. You can tell Gorim you're in love with Zevran, Morrigan, or Leliana just by the virture of turning on the romance, but for Alistair to even get a mention, all sorts of conditions have to be met. =p

I think it is because technically the subject of Alistair becoming the king doesn't arise until Arl Eamon forces you to go along with the whole "Let's go to Denerim, we have bastard prince of a wild card with us" thing. It wouldn't be really issue if there was simply third option for him along the lines of "I'm in love with a human out of all people" with simple romance check, like for the others.


You know, that actually would be a good thing to add.  In fact, I like that better than the flags I changed. Hmmmm.  Taking down that link...

I didn't even see the post on the last page! Heh. Will read slower for the next post!

Edit: Sodding stone, people! I can barely keep up with this thread. Alistair gets treated the worst by his own fans, I swear. I am trying to help my dwarf noble shout her love from the mountaintops and you guys are posting artwork that Branka would be proud to hang on her walls.

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Addai67 wrote...

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 I do not understand why fans of his character would rather he end up with Morrigan, who hates him and is diametrically opposed to his fundamental worldview, than with Leliana, who at least treats him well, respects him, and shares common morals.

Common morals like torturing and murdering people because she had a thing for Marjolaine?  I don't see the characters as similar at all, but I probably shouldn't go into it for the sake of people who like her.

It's not entirely or even mostly on a rational level, but if you picture the woman you can least stand, who also happens to be incredibly annoying, and then find out your boyfriend or husband had a thing for her once, it would set you back.  The very idea is [alistair] creepy [/alistair].

I never saw him ending up with Morrigan, either.  Just wish Bioware had left it all alone.  I mean, what's the point?  Have no story line at all and just throw that tidbit in?  Probably to provoke just such a fangirl reaction as this.  *sigh*

Exactly. Good hack n slash without the crappy story.

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Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

I can speak English and German, and some Spanish. But I really would rather learn Klingon, to be honest.

I had that book years back.



My copy lays somewhere buried amongst my mother's things in storage.

That would be cool. I should look into becoming fluent.

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cmessaz wrote...

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Because I hate Leliana.

Sorry, not good enough for days of hate. ;)

I've always hated Leliana. Not to mention the conflicts the story has anyway. Just makes no sense. i think the Morrigan manipulating him into a relationship with her to get her god baby is a more likely story. Would explain the stupid choices.

Yeah, but you didn't always make people who do like her listen to it for days accompanied by pictures. Same goes with Alistair. Can we not acknowledge that you don't like Leliana  at al and move on?

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SurelyForth wrote...
 I do not understand why fans of his character would rather he end up with Morrigan, who hates him and is diametrically opposed to his fundamental worldview, than with Leliana, who at least treats him well, respects him, and shares common morals.



I don't want him to be with Morrigan but I see no reason why they would include that he was with Leliana when they screwed up everything else. If they had put Morrigan and Alistair together, my rage would rival Cme's. At least Leliana and Alistair make sense

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Kryyptehk wrote...
Wat I don't even-- And I used to think I was good at learning languages


It's easier than it looks.
Once you learn classical Arabic (extremily hard), you can understand regional and national dialects with a bit of practise (watching their TV).

Since I was raised in Syria, my accent is Syrian when I am speaking casual Arabic (specifically Shami / Damascus accent, famous or infamous for being tough lol). But I can understand and speak other regional dialects.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

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I speak Arabic (mother tongue), English, French, a bit of Hebrew and a bit of Spanish.


Swedish, English, Norwegian, some Danish, some German and a little Spanish.

I love that having three languages as similar as Swedish, Norwegian and Danish can make you seem more educated.


If that's the case, I speak Syrian, Lebanese (add in English and French words in every sentence), Iraqi, Egyptian, Khaliji (Gulf), and a bit of Maghrebi Arabic.


Well I had to put in some effort at least. I lived in Norway for about a year and have Danish relatives.

Edit: And Denmark sucks.

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Gilsa wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

Ugh. This is getting kind of dumb. You can tell Gorim you're in love with Zevran, Morrigan, or Leliana just by the virture of turning on the romance, but for Alistair to even get a mention, all sorts of conditions have to be met. =p

I think it is because technically the subject of Alistair becoming the king doesn't arise until Arl Eamon forces you to go along with the whole "Let's go to Denerim, we have bastard prince of a wild card with us" thing. It wouldn't be really issue if there was simply third option for him along the lines of "I'm in love with a human out of all people" with simple romance check, like for the others.


You know, that actually would be a good thing to add.  In fact, I like that better than the flags I changed. Hmmmm.  Taking down that link...

I didn't even see the post on the last page! Heh. Will read slower for the next post!

Edit: Sodding stone, people! I can barely keep up with this thread. Alistair gets treated the worst by his own fans, I swear. I am trying to help my dwarf noble shout her love from the mountaintops and you guys are posting artwork that Branka would be proud to hang on her walls.

Yeah, I'm thinking of starting a new thread. ;) 

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errant_knight wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

Ugh. This is getting kind of dumb. You can tell Gorim you're in love with Zevran, Morrigan, or Leliana just by the virture of turning on the romance, but for Alistair to even get a mention, all sorts of conditions have to be met. =p

I think it is because technically the subject of Alistair becoming the king doesn't arise until Arl Eamon forces you to go along with the whole "Let's go to Denerim, we have bastard prince of a wild card with us" thing. It wouldn't be really issue if there was simply third option for him along the lines of "I'm in love with a human out of all people" with simple romance check, like for the others.


You know, that actually would be a good thing to add.  In fact, I like that better than the flags I changed. Hmmmm.  Taking down that link...

I didn't even see the post on the last page! Heh. Will read slower for the next post!

Edit: Sodding stone, people! I can barely keep up with this thread. Alistair gets treated the worst by his own fans, I swear. I am trying to help my dwarf noble shout her love from the mountaintops and you guys are posting artwork that Branka would be proud to hang on her walls.

Yeah, I'm thinking of starting a new thread. ;) 


What, why?

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Gilsa wrote...



Edit: Sodding stone, people! I can barely keep up with this thread. Alistair gets treated the worst by his own fans, I swear. I am trying to help my dwarf noble shout her love from the mountaintops and you guys are posting artwork that Branka would be proud to hang on her walls.


Let us do it together, Gilsa. My Aeducan loves her Alistair very much, even there's is far from perfect relationship.

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Addai67 wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...
 I do not understand why fans of his character would rather he end up with Morrigan, who hates him and is diametrically opposed to his fundamental worldview, than with Leliana, who at least treats him well, respects him, and shares common morals.

Common morals like torturing and murdering people because she had a thing for Marjolaine?  I don't see the characters as similar at all, but I probably shouldn't go into it for the sake of people who like her.

It's not entirely or even mostly on a rational level, but if you picture the woman you can least stand, who also happens to be incredibly annoying, and then find out your boyfriend or husband had a thing for her once, it would set you back.  The very idea is [alistair] creepy [/alistair].

I never saw him ending up with Morrigan, either.  Just wish Bioware had left it all alone.  I mean, what's the point?  Have no story line at all and just throw that tidbit in?  Probably to provoke just such a fangirl reaction as this.  *sigh*




I totally agree, they should of left it out, whats the point?  Like you said I wonder if it was to see what kind of reaction we would give it.  It almost does seem geared towards Alistair fangirls.  No one else is mentioned having a relationship that I know of.  Why target just those two?  I wonder what they were thinking, obviously NOTHING lmao. 

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Kryyptehk wrote...
Wat I don't even-- And I used to think I was good at learning languages


It's easier than it looks.
Once you learn classical Arabic (extremily hard), you can understand regional and national dialects with a bit of practise (watching their TV).

Since I was raised in Syria, my accent is Syrian when I am speaking casual Arabic (specifically Shami / Damascus accent, famous or infamous for being tough lol). But I can understand and speak other regional dialects.


That makes sense. But it's easier for me to read other languages (excepting Japanese) than to listen to them. I grew up around people who spoke Spanish, so if someone says something to me in Spanish I may not understand them, but if they write something I am more likely to understand them.

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soignee wrote...

Gilsa wrote...



Edit: Sodding stone, people! I can barely keep up with this thread. Alistair gets treated the worst by his own fans, I swear. I am trying to help my dwarf noble shout her love from the mountaintops and you guys are posting artwork that Branka would be proud to hang on her walls.


Let us do it together, Gilsa. My Aeducan loves her Alistair very much, even there's is far from perfect relationship.

Alistair currently hates mine for not murdering his father-in-law.

Modifié par Sarah1281, 19 mai 2010 - 09:13 .


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Ya know, one of my noble's (the one waiting for the jory mod) wears that hair, oh wait, Tess does too. I really don't understand the hatred of it

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/attachment.php?attachmentid=155826&stc=1&d=1267762285
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It so doesn't look like that...lol it has no bangs and is just soft waves (easily achieved by brushing):P

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It's probably one of the only things I've seen that make sense in that stupid piece of **** DLC. Leliana and Alistair doesn't bug me that much. As much as leliana irritates me, it's hardly rageworthy. It would certainly be preferable that he has someone compassionate and caring towards him who will help his self-worth,. since my Wardens aren't there to do it.



I mean, seriously...Alistair choosing to slaughter the Dalish, mages, and side with Branka, Morrigan hanging out for ****s and giggles, Oghren...nowhere to be found, for some reason..just of the top of my head.



I'm more pissed off by what is seeming like Bioware's cool contempt for it's fanbase, and the cheapening of what I consider a masterpiece of gaming.

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Sarah1281 wrote...

soignee wrote...

Gilsa wrote...



Edit: Sodding stone, people! I can barely keep up with this thread. Alistair gets treated the worst by his own fans, I swear. I am trying to help my dwarf noble shout her love from the mountaintops and you guys are posting artwork that Branka would be proud to hang on her walls.


Let us do it together, Gilsa. My Aeducan loves her Alistair very much, even there's is far from perfect relationship.

Alistair currently hates mine for not murdering his father-in-law.


it's okay we can hold hands anyway.

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 Ok, I restored six conversations between Alistair and Zevran and put them back into the game.  I'm uploading them to youtube but it's a long process (it will be a few more hours before all are uploaded).  I can give links as they become available if anyone is interested.  Here's the first -- Alistair asking Zevran for romance advice!  If I just posted this when you click the link, I will promise that the quality WILL improve.  Note the sexy dwarf!


Here's the next one!  Alistair being protective!


Ok, I'm having technical difficulties with the third one in the series so I'll try reuploading it, but for now, here's the fourth.  It's about Ferelden women and Alistair thinking Crow > Warden.


Ok, the third FINALLY worked after I reuploaded it.  Here is Alistair learning about tattoos.

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errant_knight wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

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Because I hate Leliana.

Sorry, not good enough for days of hate. ;)

I've always hated Leliana. Not to mention the conflicts the story has anyway. Just makes no sense. i think the Morrigan manipulating him into a relationship with her to get her god baby is a more likely story. Would explain the stupid choices.

Yeah, but you didn't always make people who do like her listen to it for days accompanied by pictures. Same goes with Alistair. Can we not acknowledge that you don't like Leliana  at al and move on?

Well, this is all in good fun, so if people are annoyed I apologise. Others are expressing their opposite opinions so I just thought that I would do the same. I wasn't trying to make anyone mad.

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David Gaider wasn't responsible for the writing of the last DLC, was he?

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soignee wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

soignee wrote...

Gilsa wrote...



Edit: Sodding stone, people! I can barely keep up with this thread. Alistair gets treated the worst by his own fans, I swear. I am trying to help my dwarf noble shout her love from the mountaintops and you guys are posting artwork that Branka would be proud to hang on her walls.


Let us do it together, Gilsa. My Aeducan loves her Alistair very much, even there's is far from perfect relationship.

Alistair currently hates mine for not murdering his father-in-law.


it's okay we can hold hands anyway.


Mine had Alastair killed.

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Addai67 wrote...

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 I do not understand why fans of his character would rather he end up with Morrigan, who hates him and is diametrically opposed to his fundamental worldview, than with Leliana, who at least treats him well, respects him, and shares common morals.

Common morals like torturing and murdering people because she had a thing for Marjolaine?  I don't see the characters as similar at all, but I probably shouldn't go into it for the sake of people who like her.

It's not entirely or even mostly on a rational level, but if you picture the woman you can least stand, who also happens to be incredibly annoying, and then find out your boyfriend or husband had a thing for her once, it would set you back.  The very idea is [alistair] creepy [/alistair].

I never saw him ending up with Morrigan, either.  Just wish Bioware had left it all alone.  I mean, what's the point?  Have no story line at all and just throw that tidbit in?  Probably to provoke just such a fangirl reaction as this.  *sigh*


If you look at them in the game, from when you get Leliana to the end, Leliana is most likely to be the most overwhelmingly compassionate companion and it's not ingenuine. She cares about people, despite what she used to do (whereas Zevran is more pragmatic and will only argue for those in situations that he can relate directly to, the elves or the mages).

And Alistair knows the score with bards and he's intrigued by her nonetheless, so it doesn't seem like he's that opposed to the notion of her being one.

I guess I don't get the implication (at all) that he would rather be with Leliana than he would the PC, since he makes no overtures during the game even when neither of them are being romanced.

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soignee wrote...

Gilsa wrote...



Edit: Sodding stone, people! I can barely keep up with this thread. Alistair gets treated the worst by his own fans, I swear. I am trying to help my dwarf noble shout her love from the mountaintops and you guys are posting artwork that Branka would be proud to hang on her walls.


Let us do it together, Gilsa. My Aeducan loves her Alistair very much, even there's is far from perfect relationship.

Are you being facetious? I'll dedicate my next dwarf romance to Zevran if you're actually romancing Alistair without gagging. =p

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Gilsa wrote...

soignee wrote...

Gilsa wrote...



Edit: Sodding stone, people! I can barely keep up with this thread. Alistair gets treated the worst by his own fans, I swear. I am trying to help my dwarf noble shout her love from the mountaintops and you guys are posting artwork that Branka would be proud to hang on her walls.


Let us do it together, Gilsa. My Aeducan loves her Alistair very much, even there's is far from perfect relationship.

Are you being facetious? I'll dedicate my next dwarf romance to Zevran if you're actually romancing Alistair without gagging. =p

She wrote two stories about Alistair/Aeducan and everything. And I managed to read both with only minimal gagging. Posted Image

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I don't actually have any other pictures at the moment...

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