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Low blow, Liara!

Débuté par ThisIsMadness91 , avril 10 2010 06:56

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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 06:56

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I've just completed Liara's missions on my third playthrough, and this time, rather than asking her if she needs further help, I warned her not to become the thing she hates. And she throws my forced partnership with Cerberus at me! Even worse, when I decided to tell her I didn't want to help her murder someone, she puts me between a rock and a hard place by saying she'll just kill all five Obersever suspects!

I know there are plenty of topics expressing anger over what Liara has become, but I just really wanted to get this off my chest. I was annoyed enough the first two times; experimenting on my third playthrough has just made me angrier. The old Liara is dead, simple as.

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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 06:58

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She went through all that trouble to save Shepard from being the Shadow Broker's chess piece. Cut her some slack.

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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 06:59

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Look at it this way op. Their is more depth to her character now.

Modifié par JohnnyDollar, 10 avril 2010 - 07:00 .

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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 07:00

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JohnnyDollar wrote...

Look at it this way op. Their is more depth to her character now.


Yes, this is a good thing :D

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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 07:01

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Yeah, not only did she save shep from becoming a collector science experiment, she also admits she regretted handing shep over to Cerberus. It's a lose/lose situation for her.

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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 07:01

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JohnnyDollar wrote...

Look at it this way op. Their is more depth to her character now.


The depth maaan, its all about the depth!

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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 07:03

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JohnnyDollar wrote...

Look at it this way op. Their is more depth to her character now.


Do you want to give a character depth? Just make them evil!! That's so much more deep than anything good can ever be!!

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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 07:03

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Giving the body to cerberus was a heavy risk...

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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 07:04

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Jack Package wrote...

Giving the body to cerberus was a heavy risk...


but the priiiiiize

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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 07:04

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Oh God. Please DO NOT compare Liara to Jacob. Disservice.

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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 07:06

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justinnstuff wrote...

Jack Package wrote...

Giving the body to cerberus was a heavy risk...


but the priiiiiize


This never gets old.

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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 07:06

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Collider wrote...

Oh God. Please DO NOT compare Liara to Jacob. Disservice.


I would never do that, I just went with Jack's line. :lol:

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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 07:08

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Yeah. As annoying as Horizon may have been, I think Liara fans got the shortest end of the stick.

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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 07:09

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justinnstuff wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Look at it this way op. Their is more depth to her character now.


Do you want to give a character depth? Just make them evil!! That's so much more deep than anything good can ever be!!

The characters are very important IMO.  The deeper the better IMO.  I don't think you have to make a character evil to have depth though.  Samara and Jack aren't evil, but they both have good depth IMO.

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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 07:09

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Depends how you see it. With Ashley/Kaidan, there is more indication of a break up. And they shout at you for being with Cerberus. Either way, and I hoping ME1 romance fans get their due in ME3.

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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 07:09

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justinnstuff wrote...

Jack Package wrote...

Giving the body to cerberus was a heavy risk...


but the priiiiiize


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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 07:10

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Collider wrote...

She went through all that trouble to save Shepard from being the Shadow Broker's chess piece. Cut her some slack.

Feron did all the work.... :?

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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 07:12

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Explain...I didn't read the comics. The impression I got from other people was that Liara saved Shepard.

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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 07:12

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JohnnyDollar wrote...

justinnstuff wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Look at it this way op. Their is more depth to her character now.


Do you want to give a character depth? Just make them evil!! That's so much more deep than anything good can ever be!!

The characters are very important IMO.  The deeper the better IMO.  I don't think you have to make a character evil to have depth though.  Samara and Jack aren't evil, but they both have good depth IMO.


I know Johnny. I was being sarcastic. That was just the route they took to make Liara's character more "in-depth". Instead they ruined it <_<

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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 07:12

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Somehow I don't really see the depth here. Maybe I'm blind in one eye... But yea... Makes no sense for her to act as she does. Especially considering how asari are supposed to be slower about stuff seeing how they live that long. They have never been portrayed as being prone to change so dramatically so quickly.

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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 07:13

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You think they made Liara evil now, justin?

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Collider wrote...

Explain...I didn't read the comics. The impression I got from other people was that Liara saved Shepard.


Liara had an agent with her. A drell by the name of Feron, he was a double agent for the Shadow Broker and Cerberus. Feron sacrifices himself at the end of the 4th comic so Liara can escape to deliver Shep's body to Cerberus. In essence, Liara couldn't have done it without him.

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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 07:14

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gutty47 wrote...

Collider wrote...

She went through all that trouble to save Shepard from being the Shadow Broker's chess piece. Cut her some slack.

Feron did all the work.... :?


Haa haaa...right.

I guess it depends on how you define, 'work'.

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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 07:15

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Collider wrote...

You think they made Liara evil now, justin?


Not entirely. She's already spouting out quotes from her mother, though. I fear they're going to do a Bastilla/Aribeth approach with her in ME3. She's so absorbed in her Shadow Broker hunt that she won't assist Shepard anymore.

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Posté 10 avril 2010 - 07:16

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Collider wrote...

Explain...I didn't read the comics. The impression I got from other people was that Liara saved Shepard.

Spoilers for Redemption ... obviously.

Really condensed version:
Feron was a shadow broker agent who thought giving Shepard to the collectors was a bad idea. He connected with TIM and got Cerberus help. Then he meets Liara. Feron has all the knowledge on the deal and ends up sacrificing himself to get Shepard and Liara out.. *cue events of ME2*
Liara was essentially a grunt, and not essential to the saviour of Shepard. Cerberus had a much bigger role than Liara.
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