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[Andrew_Waltfeld]

Zalekanzer wrote...

iNixiRir wrote...

Every romance is a doomed one. Either your Shep dies, or your LI will. Hell, maybe they will die together - that's pretty romantic no?

Sure it is.

In Japan.
They love that depressing crap.

Sadly, alot of those stories are quite well written as well which is depressing.

[iNixiRir]

Andrew_Waltfeld wrote...

Zalekanzer wrote...

iNixiRir wrote...

Every romance is a doomed one. Either your Shep dies, or your LI will. Hell, maybe they will die together - that's pretty romantic no?

Sure it is.

In Japan.
They love that depressing crap.

Sadly, alot of those stories are quite well written as well which is depressing.

Depressing crap do make stories look better most of the time. If people feel sad or cry, it's because it moved them, and they automatically think it's good.

[InvaderErl]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

iNixiRir wrote...

RT0wn wrote...

You don't know what went on there.

I do, I was there. I'm a crewmember who's gonna be a squadmember and LI in ME3.

Was you Garrus?

Actually if you turn down Tali, then her and Garrus have a romantic interlude.

I'd normally be upset but Garrus IS bad ass.

[Collider]

JohnnyDollar wrote...
Actually if you turn down Tali, then her and Garrus have a romantic interlude.

:l They don't have chemistry. Tali doesn't even humor Garrus when he teases her (plus there was that comment where he said that the Quarians should feel guilty about the Geth). I know you're joking but it's been suggested before and I find the reasoning thus far very bad.

Modifié par Collider, 11 avril 2010 - 12:30 .

[Masticetobbacco]

InvaderErl wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...

iNixiRir wrote...

RT0wn wrote...

You don't know what went on there.

I do, I was there. I'm a crewmember who's gonna be a squadmember and LI in ME3.

Was you Garrus?

Actually if you turn down Tali, then her and Garrus have a romantic interlude.

I'd normally be upset but Garrus IS bad ass.

would the kid have to wear a suit?

[Unit-Alpha]

Amethyst Deceiver wrote...

I feel a great disturbance in the Tali-ban, as if millions of dreams suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.

^Win.

He does have a point though (the OP, that is).

[Collider]

Unit-Alpha wrote...
^Win.

Not really. Not of that happened in this thread.

He does have a point though (the OP, that is).

Not really, because other posters have proven those concerns false. If you read the thread.

[InvaderErl]

Masticetobbacco wrote...

would the kid have to wear a suit?

Garrus' genes would override any weakness.

But the kid would have an eye-piece.

[Collider]

Shavon wrote...

Wouldn't it be similar situation to a romance with Garrus? They may not need the enviro-suits, but it's a risk everytime contact is made.

The complications with Garrus are minimal. Shepard must not have any kind of bodily fluid enter the body, and Garrus needs to be careful not to cut her or get Shepard a rash. That's pretty much it.

[sergio71785]

Alamar2078 wrote...
In the ME universe I get the impression that these other worlds are likely at least going to cause some sort of minor poisonous reaction.  Shepard wouldn't likely get diseases [maybe a virus] but just breathing in pollen, drinking unfiltered water, etc. could cause issues.  Just like a Quarian can't eat our food we may have a similar reaction just walking around unprotected in their environment.

It's possible some things may cause reactions to Shepard, but it's absolutely impossible for him to get a virus. The way viruses work is that they hijack cells and use them to replicate their own genetic material, and then spread. The whole opposite chirality issue basically renders a human cell "incompatible" to any kind of dextro-chirality virus. The cell doesn't have the "machinery" to create dextro amino-acids, thus the virus can't replicate and spread.

Viruses rarely affect more than one species; and when you factor in the opposite chirality, it's basically impossible. You know the "L" piece in tetris? It'd be like trying to fit a "reverse L" piece into a slot meant for a normal "L" piece. Just can't happen.

[ArmedChimp]

thatguy212 wrote...

I was just thinking that since Quarians are a dextro-protein species and their homeworld would probably only have food that they can eat and humans can't, and while i'm not sure but wouldn't their planet be toxic or at least unpleasent to other species? so if Shepard and Tali were to do what all the talimancers want and settle down on the Quarian homeworld, Shepard would have to wear a protective suit all the time and have to eat different food then everyone else, so basically only one person in the relationship could ever live without having to wear a suit, so one person is doomed to live in a suit if they want to stay with the other one. I'm not try to sound negative or anything just trying to figure out if their relationship could last, Thoughts?

They're all doomed "romances" cause shepard will sex some other space alien up in ME 3.

[sergio71785]

I know it's meant all meant in humor, but it's absolutely impossible for turians and quarians to have a child. It's like saying a human can have a kid with a salarian. 

I know a lot of people like to think turians and quarians are somewhat "related" or similar because they share amino-acid chirality, but that really doesn't change anything. Consider this, you share the same chirality with every other animal on the planet. Yet, you look nothing like a squid or cockroach or any other creature on earth.

Within the scope of the ME universe, humans, krogan, asari, salarians, etc. all share levo chirality. Doesn't change anything. Hell, you could theoretically have a creature that looks identical to a human, that's dextro chirality. The only difference would be its molecules would be "facing right" instead of "left". 

[Collider]

Sergio, Turian and Quarian relationships would be even more dangerous, right? Turian germs and diseases would have an even easier way of affecting Quarians.

[Masticetobbacco]

sergio71785 wrote...

I know it's meant all meant in humor, but it's absolutely impossible for turians and quarians to have a child. It's like saying a human can have a kid with a salarian. 

I know a lot of people like to think turians and quarians are somewhat "related" or similar because they share amino-acid chirality, but that really doesn't change anything. Consider this, you share the same chirality with every other animal on the planet. Yet, you look nothing like a squid or cockroach or any other creature on earth.

Within the scope of the ME universe, humans, krogan, asari, salarians, etc. all share levo chirality. Doesn't change anything. Hell, you could theoretically have a creature that looks identical to a human, that's dextro chirality. The only difference would be its molecules would be "facing right" instead of "left". 

so I can't have sex with monkeys even if I am mechanically compatible with them?
DAMN IT

[sergio71785]

Masticetobbacco wrote...

so I can't have sex with monkeys even if I am mechanically compatible with them?
DAMN IT

Who says you can't? I never said you can't; I just said you'll never get a child out of it. 

[Masticetobbacco]

sergio71785 wrote...

Masticetobbacco wrote...

so I can't have sex with monkeys even if I am mechanically compatible with them?
DAMN IT

Who says you can't? I never said you can't; I just said you'll never get a child out of it. 

and yet I can get AIDS from them.

can't a similar incident happen with a human and a quarian? 

[sergio71785]

Collider wrote...

Sergio, Turian and Quarian relationships would be even more dangerous, right? Turian germs and diseases would have an even easier way of affecting Quarians.

That's actually a good point; didn't even occur to me. 

There's still very little chance that a turian disease will affect a quarian (excluding the quarian's allergic reaction), but it's not impossible, like with the levo-chirality races. 

[Alamar2078]

sergio71785 wrote...

Alamar2078 wrote...
In the ME universe I get the impression that these other worlds are likely at least going to cause some sort of minor poisonous reaction.  Shepard wouldn't likely get diseases [maybe a virus] but just breathing in pollen, drinking unfiltered water, etc. could cause issues.  Just like a Quarian can't eat our food we may have a similar reaction just walking around unprotected in their environment.

It's possible some things may cause reactions to Shepard, but it's absolutely impossible for him to get a virus. The way viruses work is that they hijack cells and use them to replicate their own genetic material, and then spread. The whole opposite chirality issue basically renders a human cell "incompatible" to any kind of dextro-chirality virus. The cell doesn't have the "machinery" to create dextro amino-acids, thus the virus can't replicate and spread.

Viruses rarely affect more than one species; and when you factor in the opposite chirality, it's basically impossible. You know the "L" piece in tetris? It'd be like trying to fit a "reverse L" piece into a slot meant for a normal "L" piece. Just can't happen.

In the Mass Effect universe it's not as easy to say as that.  The Omega plauge went after virtually all species regardless of DNA type.  We don't know if the plague was from a bacteria, a virus, or something else.  If eating a Quarian peanut can make you sick what happens when a bug flies into your mouth, you're stung and injected with native venom, etc.    There are so many possible issues I wouldn't be so quick to play these things down.

Note:  I don't fault your logic in how you are arguing.  I'm just saying the writers in the ME universe may not follow the rules.  From the "impression" that I'm getting [YMMV] it may not be as easy as many people think to live in that environment given the rules that I "GUESS" the ME plays under.

Also Note:  In ME1 we have a couple of examples of garden worlds that can't be settled by any other  species because they don't react well to the native environment.  Therefore the precedent has been set that there could be problems.

Devil's Advocate:  It's possible that we could also get the smurfy ending.  I doubt it but it's obviously possible.

[Gavinthelocust]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

iNixiRir wrote...

RT0wn wrote...

You don't know what went on there.

I do, I was there. I'm a crewmember who's gonna be a squadmember and LI in ME3.

Was you Garrus?

Actually if you turn down Tali, then her and Garrus have a romantic interlude.

Who the draws this crap?