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[GuardianAngel470]

InvaderErl wrote...

The Priiiize.

Ha!! I win.  go home and Calculate Pi.

[Andrew_Waltfeld]

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

kglaser wrote...

If I was in love with an alien, I'd not worry about kids at all. We would definitely adopt. There's gotta be plenty of orphaned kids out there, with all the battles and all....

Same here, a child having genes from the parents is so last century anyways.

Slightly off topic note  - Be interesting if you ran into the kid that Kasumi saved. In ME3 that is. We have seen very  little in the way of children, even on the citadel, would be interesting to say the least. Heck could make it an kasumi mission or something.

Hmmm... yeah does anyone even remotely see an child in Mass Effect in non-combat areas?

Modifié par Andrew_Waltfeld, 11 avril 2010 - 02:38 .

[InvaderErl]

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

The Priiiize.

Ha!! I win.  go home and Calculate Pi.

NOOOO! MY POWAH!

*explodes.

[jlb524]

InvaderErl wrote...

The Priiiize.


Edit: DAMN IT.

Heavy risk....


*there's nothing wrong with the Tali romance as far as biology goes*

[Collider]

@Shavon, like Rune said, Tali is plenty feisty in ME2. She even calls an Admiral the equivalent of a jackass. I think you are missing the point that people do not have to act the same in romantic situations as they do in nonromantic situations. Tali felt nervous around Shepard because she greatly respected him and had a crush on him. Tali is pretty selfless too, so the "thinking lesser of herself" is not out of character at all. She does not want to be a burden on anyone, much less her best friend.

Like another poster said, Shepard can have any woman he likes essentially. But he chooses a Quarian? The Quarians are viewed negatively in the entire galaxy. They often are barred from having jobs because people think they are lesser. They are also in their suits all the time, Shepard did not even know what she looks like. So this whole time she's doubting Shepard would ever like her.

Modifié par Collider, 11 avril 2010 - 02:39 .

[Onyx Jaguar]

jlb524 wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

The Priiiize.


Edit: DAMN IT.

Heavy risk....


*there's nothing wrong with the Tali romance as far as biology goes*

the priiiiize...

[Collider]

Shavon wrote...

No, I am not missing the point that Tali acts differently in a romantic situation.

It seems you are. Forgive me if I'm misinterpreting you, but you seem to be saying that you don't like how her feistyness carries over into the romance. I think my post can explain the reasons she acted as she did.

[Collider]

Shandepared wrote...
Tali especailly as an important quarian will probably be expected to settle down with a nice quarian guy and have a child.

Assumption. Tali has no political position whatsoever. The admiral's position is not hereditary, Tali is not a princess. Tali cares much for her people, but the fact that she both opposes the admiralty board and insults them, and withholds evidence from them indicates that she would not do anything for the Quarians. She already recognizes that her government can be stupid and crazy at times.

I imagine quarians are fairly xenophobic as a people. They might think it's fine to fool around with an alien on your pilgrimage, but once you grow up and rejoin the fleet you arent' supposed to bring your human home with you.

The Flotilla is already overcrowded. They aren't having a population shortage, nor does the pilgrimage say anything about bringing someone back home.

[DravenShep]

Collider wrote...

@Shavon, like Rune said, Tali is plenty feisty in ME2. She even calls an Admiral the equivalent of a jackass. I think you are missing the point that people do not have to act the same in romantic situations as they do in nonromantic situations. Tali felt nervous around Shepard because she greatly respected him and had a crush on him. Tali is pretty selfless too, so the "thinking lesser of herself" is not out of character at all. She does not want to be a burden on anyone, much less her best friend.

Like another poster said, Shepard can have any woman he likes essentially. But he chooses a Quarian? The Quarians are viewed negatively in the entire galaxy. They often are barred from having jobs because people think they are lesser. They are also in their suits all the time, Shepard did not even know what she looks like. So this whole time she's doubting Shepard would ever like her.

That is for the very reason that the relationship tween Sheps and Tali would work out very greatly. With Sheps history of being a hero, and being seen with a Quarian, Quarians could be seen as more than equals in ME3. Also, the choice of Legion's Heretics will have a major effect on how the Quarians will be seen.

[GuardianAngel470]

Andrew_Waltfeld wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

kglaser wrote...

If I was in love with an alien, I'd not worry about kids at all. We would definitely adopt. There's gotta be plenty of orphaned kids out there, with all the battles and all....

Same here, a child having genes from the parents is so last century anyways.

Slightly off topic note  - Be interesting if you ran into the kid that Kasumi saved. In ME3 that is. We have seen very  little in the way of children, even on the citadel, would be interesting to say the least. Heck could make it an kasumi mission or something.

Hmmm... yeah does anyone even remotely see an child in Mass Effect in non-combat areas?

I want to see dead children on colony streets.  Not because I enjoy seeing dead children, but because it would be a good way to involve the player, make the fight more personal.  Monsters and idiots kill women and children, and we know we won't be fighting idiots.  Maybe even a mother cradling the head of her dead child on the street.  I would be angry, ready to kill the next enemy I saw.  In the immortal words of Grunt, " It makes me want to fight, not just able to."

[DravenShep]

So true.

[thatguy212]

DravenShep wrote...

Collider wrote...

@Shavon, like Rune said, Tali is plenty feisty in ME2. She even calls an Admiral the equivalent of a jackass. I think you are missing the point that people do not have to act the same in romantic situations as they do in nonromantic situations. Tali felt nervous around Shepard because she greatly respected him and had a crush on him. Tali is pretty selfless too, so the "thinking lesser of herself" is not out of character at all. She does not want to be a burden on anyone, much less her best friend.

Like another poster said, Shepard can have any woman he likes essentially. But he chooses a Quarian? The Quarians are viewed negatively in the entire galaxy. They often are barred from having jobs because people think they are lesser. They are also in their suits all the time, Shepard did not even know what she looks like. So this whole time she's doubting Shepard would ever like her.

That is for the very reason that the relationship tween Sheps and Tali would work out very greatly. With Sheps history of being a hero, and being seen with a Quarian, Quarians could be seen as more than equals in ME3. Also, the choice of Legion's Heretics will have a major effect on how the Quarians will be seen.

I don't know if Shepard and Tali dating would help Quarians be seen as equals, if i were a person in the mass effect universe and saw Shepard dating Tali, i would be like "good for her" or something like that, i wouldn't be thinking "shepard likes quarians, lets give them their embassy back"

[Andrew_Waltfeld]

Shandepared wrote...

Andrew_Waltfeld wrote...

Pretty much if your in love with an alien, you already not worried about children.... unless it's asari.

Asari don't give you children either. Your turian girlfriend could go get knocked up by another turian and the child would be just as much yours as an asari child would.

Isn't the Asari that is born techinally your child though considering it does meld with parts of your DNA?

[Collider]

Shavon wrote...
Well, my reasoning so far isn't based solely on Tali and how she is presented when she talks about her feelings with Shepard.  There are a few other things, but I guess for now I will hold off my opinion until I finish the romance with her in my current playthrough..  It's very different watching the scenes on youtube vs. actually playing it for yourself.  

Indeed. Experiencing will likely give you a better opinion. It's your opinion though, if you think it is damaging to her character, that's your right. I just disagree and I've given my reasons why. If you want to throw any questions at me, go ahead.

[Andrew_Waltfeld]

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Andrew_Waltfeld wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

kglaser wrote...

If I was in love with an alien, I'd not worry about kids at all. We would definitely adopt. There's gotta be plenty of orphaned kids out there, with all the battles and all....

Same here, a child having genes from the parents is so last century anyways.

Slightly off topic note  - Be interesting if you ran into the kid that Kasumi saved. In ME3 that is. We have seen very  little in the way of children, even on the citadel, would be interesting to say the least. Heck could make it an kasumi mission or something.

Hmmm... yeah does anyone even remotely see an child in Mass Effect in non-combat areas?

I want to see dead children on colony streets.  Not because I enjoy seeing dead children, but because it would be a good way to involve the player, make the fight more personal.  Monsters and idiots kill women and children, and we know we won't be fighting idiots.  Maybe even a mother cradling the head of her dead child on the street.  I would be angry, ready to kill the next enemy I saw.  In the immortal words of Grunt, " It makes me want to fight, not just able to."

Yeah I kindof wished during Horizon we saw this, would have made the fight just more personally. Seeing an child frozen from the swarms or perhaps trapped in the cocoons as you move throughout the colony.

[jlb524]

Shandepared wrote...

Andrew_Waltfeld wrote...

Pretty much if your in love with an alien, you already not worried about children.... unless it's asari.

Asari don't give you children either. Your turian girlfriend could go get knocked up by another turian and the child would be just as much yours as an asari child would.

:blink:

This is news.

[NoUserNameHere]

You do know that Bioware can write in multiple endings to a romance path, right?

[Collider]

Andrew_Waltfeld wrote...
Yeah I kindof wished during Horizon we saw this, would have made the fight just more personally. Seeing an child frozen from the swarms or perhaps trapped in the cocoons as you move throughout the colony.

You get into dangerous territory depicting children as been killed or injured or something of that sort though. I don't think it's worth the resources. You would need to make new models for the children. I thought one of the plot elements of the Collectors taking humans is that they essentially disappear without a trace. Having dead bodies all around and stuff would not really fit that.

[GuardianAngel470]

InvaderErl wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

The Priiiize.

Ha!! I win.  go home and Calculate Pi.

NOOOO! MY POWAH!

*explodes.

"Finally!"

*Explodes*

[Andrew_Waltfeld]

Collider wrote...

Andrew_Waltfeld wrote...
Yeah I kindof wished during Horizon we saw this, would have made the fight just more personally. Seeing an child frozen from the swarms or perhaps trapped in the cocoons as you move throughout the colony.

You get into dangerous territory depicting children as been killed or injured or something of that sort though. I don't think it's worth the resources. You would need to make new models for the children. I thought one of the plot elements of the Collectors taking humans is that they essentially disappear without a trace. Having dead bodies all around and stuff would not really fit that.

Meant during Horizon. And dangerous terratory how? to be honest, it's not like we're talking children being ripped apart like Elfen Lied here. *shudders*

that is why i said, frozen by the swarms or in one of the pods.