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[Zulu_DFA]

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

I want to see dead children because if they did it right it would give me a reason to fight other than Self-preservation.  If I saw the bodies of a small family with children lying in front of a wall that was covered in blood I would be angry. 

Feeling anger over dead children is the instinct of self-preservation at work. But if you need that to invoke the instinct, while knowing about the Reapers, it means your instinct is weak. Besides, you saw the piles of colonists' deformed bodies on the Collector ship. Who says there weren't any kids?

That's a stretch at best.  I'd say feeling anger at child death is more about ending the life of an innocent child who hasn't had the chance to live yet.  The child's self-preservation maybe, but not shepard's or the galaxy's.  Those were the ones to which I was referring.

It's hormones.

You see a dead old man, the hormones tell you: "Oh, it's sad, but it was going to happen soon anyway."

You see a dead child, and the hormones tell you: "WTF?! The baddies are after our tribe, they're going to wipe us out! We need to wipe them out first."

"Innocence" is paragon BS.

[Aryck the One]

Collider wrote...

Seriously though, it's not worth the trouble. There is a stigma against having children killed, injured, or abused in video games. I think it's better left out.

They didn't seem to have much of a problem in Dragon Age. Did you play the Human Noble origin? Remember what happens at Redcliffe?

It would make for a much darker atmosphere... As long as they don't overdue it. Dragon age was rather tame compared to other stuff I've seen, namely in the movies. I prefer it that way.

[binaryemperor]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

I want to see dead children because if they did it right it would give me a reason to fight other than Self-preservation.  If I saw the bodies of a small family with children lying in front of a wall that was covered in blood I would be angry. 

Feeling anger over dead children is the instinct of self-preservation at work. But if you need that to invoke the instinct, while knowing about the Reapers, it means your instinct is weak. Besides, you saw the piles of colonists' deformed bodies on the Collector ship. Who says there weren't any kids?

That's a stretch at best.  I'd say feeling anger at child death is more about ending the life of an innocent child who hasn't had the chance to live yet.  The child's self-preservation maybe, but not shepard's or the galaxy's.  Those were the ones to which I was referring.

It's hormones.

You see a dead old man, the hormones tell you: "Oh, it's sad, but it was going to happen soon anyway."

You see a dead child, and the hormones tell you: "WTF?! The baddies are after our tribe, they're going to wipe us out! We need to wipe them out first."

"Innocence" is paragon BS.

Geez, is it the "Cynicism or death" policy again?

A lot of people get pissed when people cut down the elderly too, It's a sign of lack of a fair fight. The "bad guys" killed a person that was perceived to be unable to fight back.

Whether or not it's Hormone Driven Organic Robotics, people do have a sense of idealogy, regardless of whether or not you think it is rational, and it is not going to go away. This is especially the case in fiction. And if you did not notice, BioWare's games, while dark, have a strong side in Idealogy over Cynicism.  

In the end, I only care about the fact that dead children = completely banned in a lot of countries, anyways.

Modifié par binaryemperor, 11 avril 2010 - 04:39 .

[Zulu_DFA]

binaryemperor wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

I want to see dead children because if they did it right it would give me a reason to fight other than Self-preservation.  If I saw the bodies of a small family with children lying in front of a wall that was covered in blood I would be angry. 

Feeling anger over dead children is the instinct of self-preservation at work. But if you need that to invoke the instinct, while knowing about the Reapers, it means your instinct is weak. Besides, you saw the piles of colonists' deformed bodies on the Collector ship. Who says there weren't any kids?

That's a stretch at best.  I'd say feeling anger at child death is more about ending the life of an innocent child who hasn't had the chance to live yet.  The child's self-preservation maybe, but not shepard's or the galaxy's.  Those were the ones to which I was referring.

It's hormones.

You see a dead old man, the hormones tell you: "Oh, it's sad, but it was going to happen soon anyway."

You see a dead child, and the hormones tell you: "WTF?! The baddies are after our tribe, they're going to wipe us out! We need to wipe them out first."

"Innocence" is paragon BS.

Geez, is it the "Cynicism or death" policy again?

A lot of people get pissed when people cut down the elderly too, It's a sign of lack of a fair fight. The "bad guys" killed a person that was perceived to be unable to fight back.

But somehow this thread is not named "Old ladies..."

And in this case my "cynicism" seems to meet "idealistic" ends better then your "idealism". I don't need to see dead kids to hate the Reapers.

You paragons are all perverts, and I'm out of this thread.

[binaryemperor]

Heh, I know my Donnelly Joke was unfitting to the actual post, I just felt like writing it.

Modifié par binaryemperor, 11 avril 2010 - 04:50 .

[Andrew_Waltfeld]

binaryemperor wrote...

Heh, I know my Donnelly Joke was unfitting to the actual post, I just felt like writing it.

I thought it was quite humourous actually.

[Xaijin]

I guess you bored or whatever, but it's never going to happen because there will be never be EA game that is rated AO.



Thread over.

[JayJayCAW09]

well I want kids to actually be in the game, but us actually seeing them die and there bodies layed out...............no thanks lol.



Tho the have it mentioned that some kids died lets say if you fail to do something on some missions then ok that would fine

[Bucky_McLachlan]

Xaijin wrote...

I guess you bored or whatever, but it's never going to happen because there will be never be EA game that is rated AO.

Thread over.

No but there are plenty rated M. And that's all it needs to be. The thread continues....

[Inquisitor Recon]

I hate kids, don't want em around live or dead.

[Canned Bullets]

Yeah, its annoying how people are too scared to kill children just because of the Fox News threat.

[Ray Joel Oh]

I want a renegade option to eat children for sustenance.

[GuardianAngel470]

Ray Joel Oh wrote...

I want a renegade option to eat children for sustenance.

Ouch.  

[Inquisitor Recon]

I think some European countries instantly ban a game if they are killable/dead children. At least that was the case with Fallout 3 IIRC.



And I don't want a repeat of those annoying un-killable punks in Mass Effect 3.

[SnakeHelah]

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

  I want to see dead children .

Lol No, Me3 would get banned from half of the world for that

[GuardianAngel470]

SnakeHelah wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

  I want to see dead children .

Lol No, Me3 would get banned from half of the world for that

Really?! God damn it.  Stupid europeans, won't even let Microsoft bundle their web browser in their own product, of course they won't let video games have dead children.  This sucks.

[Milician]

Idea makes sense if put simply as an inspiration to fight whatever your foe is. Sadly, no matter how you say it, your gonna sound like a terrible person.

Would certainly make an effect though

[Milician]

P.S. Look at Fallout 3 and their use of children in-game. They weren't willing to risk the bad publicty for the chance to kill children. Not saying killing children is your message, but it shows developers aren't willing to push that boundary just yet. But based on how much freedom we get in video games, it shouldn't be that long.

[Ray Joel Oh]

Milician wrote...
Would certainly make an effect though

A Mass Effect.

YEEEEEAAAAAAAH

[GuardianAngel470]

Milician wrote...

Idea makes sense if put simply as an inspiration to fight whatever your foe is. Sadly, no matter how you say it, your gonna sound like a terrible person.

Would certainly make an effect though

Well, idea's out the window now because I hear the Europeans would have the game banned over it and I know Bioware would never sacrifice the sales they receive there over something as trivial as dead children.

[GuardianAngel470]

That was a joke.

[GnusmasTHX]

Collider wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...
I want to see dead children

omg

That monster!

I'm pretty sure that combination of words just landed you on like 10 government databases. Welcome to the "Amber List".

[jlb524]

The original point the OP was trying to make has been lost.

[exterminator_]

eating children ? ... interesting hehe

Americans ... lol

Modifié par exterminator , 12 avril 2010 - 04:56 .

[exterminator_]

If you want to kill kids in fallout 3 you must put mod for this simple



or else you cannot kill them