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[Michel1986]

buy the game first before commenting on it... only media can get away with that...

if you have it... take a few minutes to register it.

And what if people bought it second hand ? and the game is already registered and you didnt get his account because he registered more games too it ?

Indeed STFU!

[Jackal904]

I want more DLC but I agree that should be much larger add-ons. Like 5 hours in length at least.

[RoninOmega]

Uh huh what about kasumi?

rated most downloaded and top rated on xbox marketplace(1st being stimulus package for modern warfare but cmon).


How about you please keep your mouth shut and quit discouraging.  Bioware is getting it right this time.  I can't believe the most simplest rule people here don't follow.

If you didn't like it, don't buy it.  And seriously, complaining over 7 dollars worth?  Your lucky it isn't near 12 dollars like warden's keep!

Modifié par RoninOmega, 11 avril 2010 - 06:39 .

[RoninOmega]

slimgrin wrote...

RoninOmega wrote...

Uh huh what about kasumi?

rated most downloaded and top rated on xbox marketplace(1st being stimulus package for modern warfare but cmon).


How about you please keep your mouth shut and quit discouraging.  Bioware is getting it right this time.

My mouth is wide open, friend. Get used to it.

There is nothing wrong in asking for quality as well as quantity, and many think Kasumi DLC stinted players on the latter. Publishers are more than happy to do this. I simply do not want to see this as a trend.

And please keep your childish tantrums off the forum. Thanks.

Lol do you think I was talking to you? 

I'm replying to the op, nowhere near whatever conversation you were having.

How about you keep your immature replies off this forum.  Way to give an innacurate summary on both end, asking for no more dlc(if you were talking about the op) doesn't equal to asking for quality over quantity.

Perhaps you should quit replying to someone else who wasn't originally talking to you, otherwise, get used to people trampling all over you.

Modifié par RoninOmega, 11 avril 2010 - 06:46 .

[RoninOmega]

slimgrin wrote...
My mistake.

But I still disagree with your stance, I must say. The 'if you dont like it, don't buy' argument is simply aside from the point. But that doesn't keep every other person here from using it.

It's about what we would like to see the devs produce.

I would rather they made an expansion pack, something with five or ten hrs of game play. Not Mc DLC.

Pheew, thank you, I thought I had to go into another long-term fight(no offense, but theres just way too many people here who like to do that). 

I'm half-half with the don't like it don't buy it arguement.  I mean, can't really be used if there wasn't a proper demonstration or summary of what your buying.  I'm all for critisizes and such, but this one just seems way over the top.

Modifié par RoninOmega, 11 avril 2010 - 06:59 .

[spacehamsterZH]

Man, Kotaku usually strikes me as a pretty intelligent website, and they're more than welcome to say they don't like the Kasumi mission if they have an intelligent argument to make, but that review's just stupid.



If this thing had been out at the same time as Zaeed or shortly after launch, everyone and their grandmother would've been up in arms about the fact that Bioware is already taking more money from them and basically saying the game they bought is incomplete. You just can't do that with paid DLC no matter its size or content. And that Kasumi doesn't "contribute much to a full playthrough of the game" is flat-out false, she has in-mission dialogue all the way back to Mordin's recruitment.



As for the OP, the full game was already structured this way - it consists of about two dozen missions that are all somewhere around an hour in length, depending on how and at what difficulty setting you play them, and the rest is walking around hub worlds, talking to people, buying stuff and mining for resources. It makes perfect sense to add more one-hour quests to a game like that, and I suspect one of the reasons they decided to structure ME2 this way is because it allows for DLC like the Kasumi mission.

[Matrices1]

The fundamental problem with Katsumi DLC appears to be that they shoehorned the 'retrieve character and gain loyalty' two-mission structure into one mission for the new character. That's the issue: DLC done right should be of the same quality and consistency as the main product. When you blatantly compress a story arc, you might as well plaster a giant watermark that says 'this is DLC.'

BW probably decided that people will be satisfied with the ability to use a new gun, costume, and character for a second playthrough - and they're probably right. It's just too bad that they didn't go the extra mile - as they did with ME2 itself - and make it as good as it deserves to be, rather than just as good as it needs to be to sell.

Modifié par Matrices1, 11 avril 2010 - 08:17 .

[SnakDok]

Michel1986 wrote...

buy the game first before commenting on it... only media can get away with that...

if you have it... take a few minutes to register it.

And what if people bought it second hand ? and the game is already registered and you didnt get his account because he registered more games too it ?

Indeed STFU!

Same goes for you

[Gravbh]

zarkis61 wrote...

7$ for 1hour gameplay is overpriced. Compare that to the Fallout DLCs, that gave you much more for your money.

Apparently I'm not able to use the new weapon or squadmate except when I'm on Kasumi's mission.

I've already started my adept over because I originally picked AR's as his bonus weapon. The new smg fills that role nicely, so I started him over to pick a different bonus weapon, and I brought Kasumi with me for practically every mission on that play through.

It was certainly more than an hour of gameplay.

[Astranagant]

defqon wrote...


please no more small DLC's for ME2 it’s not good for this game
 
one reason is because you made a game whit a big focus on story and small pack just won’t add must to a big game like ME (1+2) the game story is just too big for this I think it will break the game in the future for a lot off gamers

second reason is I think 50% won’t even buy the DLC becase the aren’t going to pay 7$ for 1 hour game play + a bit off story so a lot will miss out on content that you making + miss out on the effort you doing to make ME bigger and that’s a waist

so please if you’re going to make add-ons for this game please make a big add-on like you done whit Dragon Age not small useless items packs ore small 1 mission packs
 
so do it good and do it for everyone not only for those willing to pay for overpriced content just to make some extra $$$$$  

for me its a big add-on ore focus your work on ME3

thx for reading
 

Given the content of this post, I think Bioware should introduce an English spelling and grammar DLC.

[Vena_86]

BioWare should either release decently sized full add-ons or take more time for the full games before release, I would even pay more for that.
DLC just keeps adding content that is thrown on top of the game and can never be as well integrated as it could be if it was added during development of the real game.
Look at the forced helmet and retarded shades DLCs. At the one side you have a lead animator explaining you how the eyes are the most important thing for a character to come to life and at the other side there is this completely random stuff thrown in, made with not even half the effort and destroying a major feature of the whole game. One hand doesnt know what the other one is doing.

Modifié par Vena_86, 11 avril 2010 - 10:32 .

[DocDoom]

Bottom line is there is a choice, you buy or you don't buy.



We don't know for sure what is truly in store for DLC until we are told about it, through rumour or official announcement. The OP has their own opinions on what they want from DLC and it is up to Bioware/EA to take into consideration or not.



In respect to the Kasumi DLC, she may not speak much or really add to the game in a narrative sense. But she changes gameplay. She replaces a favoured team mate (if you choose to anyway) and shifts your tactics to compensate for her.I'd say that compensates for a fairly short but entirely new type of mission.



Zaeed is another soldier but Kasumi has two brand new and incredibly useful skills. You can't deny that.

[rabidhanar]

While an expansion might be a great idea right now, (maybe more post missions a la Awakening, plz?) I sincerely enjoyed Kasumi's dlc. The loyalty mission in particular was extremely refreshing, for those people who have bought it I recommend doing her loyalty mission before any other, and showed a new thought process in level design. The entire first segment fit in greatly, a section with objectives and never truly needing to fire a shot felt very 007-like.



While some dlc already made seems trivial (firewalker), the fact that they are both New and available at any time is a great thing to me. In my humble opinion, the way it is now is great. It is already better than ME1, only months since the game came out. I see great progress in that.

[uzivatel]

cjasko94 wrote...

Capcom does it worst. Trust me.

Lost in Nightmares and Desperate Escape are imo pretty good.

[Mycrus Ironfist]

Blk_Mage_Ctype wrote...

Meh, I liked the Kasumi DLC...

New Character + New Weapon + Desperately needed new Casual Clothes = Win IMO.

Besides, I had 800 points that I wasn't doing anything with anyway.

And if BW ever does do a Awakening type Expansion Pack, they better add Helmet Toggle to it!

helmet toggle is one of the features i miss most from me1

[Mycrus Ironfist]

Atomic Space Vixen wrote...

I liked the Kasumi DLC, but would never pay good money for horse armour alternate appearance packs.

i swore never to get the alternative appearance pack... but since i got spare points after kasumi, the impulse buy got the better of me... anyway garrus looks cool... jack shades looks stupid... i haven't seen thane yet... not in my current playthrough.

[Mycrus Ironfist]

Michel1986 wrote...

buy the game first before commenting on it... only media can get away with that...

if you have it... take a few minutes to register it.

And what if people bought it second hand ? and the game is already registered and you didnt get his account because he registered more games too it ?

Indeed STFU!

so shout shepard renegade style and say that this guy discriminates against the poor...

[Mycrus Ironfist]

Matrices1 wrote...

The fundamental problem with Katsumi DLC appears to be that they shoehorned the 'retrieve character and gain loyalty' two-mission structure into one mission for the new character. That's the issue: DLC done right should be of the same quality and consistency as the main product. When you blatantly compress a story arc, you might as well plaster a giant watermark that says 'this is DLC.'

BW probably decided that people will be satisfied with the ability to use a new gun, costume, and character for a second playthrough - and they're probably right. It's just too bad that they didn't go the extra mile - as they did with ME2 itself - and make it as good as it deserves to be, rather than just as good as it needs to be to sell.

common... zaaed mission's was exactly like that... we all knew what to expect...

i was quite happy that with kasumi you didn't go guns blazing from the get go... kasumi plays far better than zaaed...

[Kandid001]

Saying "stop making DLC's" would be too extreme, they'll continue releasing them as long as there's demand, but I also prefer large scale addons and expansions like the OP.