Murkman4683 wrote...
Another post from CptPatch http://social.biowar...79587/3#2248879
Bioware stated that you would have to post the link to get points.
Uhm, if you're going to quote me, could you at least quote _me_? What you've posted there is your own post on that thread.
You've basically characterized me as a liar by stating that I posted incorrect info in numerous places. Then you failed to mention that when I was presented with _correct_ info, I invariably thanked those that had set me straight. (You being one of them, where I thanked and admitted the error in the very next post.) That obviously deliberate omission speaks volumes as to what _your_ intent is here.
For those that not have followed the error-corrections exchanges, I made two primary errors:
1) If one did not register one or more of the games, the equivalent number of tokens could be garnered by filling out a questionnaire. I originally ommitted that as an option in the article. [Since corrected.]
2) You could NOT get additional tokens if you had more than one copy/format of a given game. [Since corrected.]
The reason the final draft contained those egregious errors was because I _had_ been planning to doublecheck the details by reviewing the Contest Rules. Unfortunately, BW took down ALL of the Bazaar info minutes after the last auction ended. And if those things are posted _anywhere_ on the Internet, I request that they post a link to them. I spent the better part of an hour Searching, but with no success.
Murkman4683 wrote...
"CptPatch outright called 10,000+ token winners cheaters"
Chalk it off to the Alzheiners kicking in. Could you offer a link to where I said this? I have no recollection of making such an accusation. I _do_ recall saying, " For the balance of the fourth day and for the entire fifth and last
day, if you didn't have at least 10K+ in tokens, you may as well have gone home." That, however is quite factual; after 7:30 p.m. GMT on Thursday, _nothing_ went for less than 10K. (See the spreadsheet.) If that isn't what you're referring to, Please, steer me to it.
Murkman4683 wrote...
" he continues to cast judgment on those who won legitimately and call them names"
Again, where have I done this? I readily acknowledge that I have have referred to those that solicited referral clicks as "beggars". You might not the label, but it _is_ accurate. Look up the definition of "beggar": "Please give me something" for which you do nothing in return is, literally, begging. The closest referral clicking solicitations that were NOT begging would be the Click Exchanges. And as far as I know, there was _no one_ that got ALL of their referral clicks in that kind of venue.
Murkman4683 wrote...
"his poll is even biased"
Hmm. 5 out of 8 choices translate to some level of Favorable. You're right! It _is_ biased -- just not in the direction you intimate. Nevertheless, I actively seek any suggestion on how to make the poll less biased. And, please explain to me that, if I'm presenting a biased ( with the supposition is that I'm trying to skew the results towards Unfavorable) whyever would I go out of my way to invite you, of all people, to cast a vote? As well as the other prizewinners in one of the prize threads? And would you care to explain how you learned of the poll? Is it not true that I directly invited to check it out? Just as I directly invited you to come here to say your piece(s). [Jeez. Apparantly I have some serious work to do on my sinister, diabolic, Machiavellian skills. I just have no flaw for being underhanded.] Poll:
http://social.biowar...964/polls/4620/Murkman4683 wrote...
"I only address CptPatch because he avoids me completely"
You have _got_ to be kidding me. For the last three days we've swapped posts in a half-dozen locations.
Murkman4683 wrote...
" The auction did not just cost them $62,000, you forgot to add in the labor and time it took to get the web portion of the auction setup. What about the Twiter Challenges, were those "broken" I saw certain individuals claim that they received anywhere from 3000-6000 points from answering those questions and the answers were judged by a human panel."
You post this as if _I_ had suggested such a ridiculously low figure. Be-, uh, I doubt that you're inclined to believe
anything I say, but over the last 4 decades, I've been heavily involved in running quite a few companies, as well as having Coordinated a couple of national gaming conventions (GenCon XI and XII). Accordingly, I know quite well nearly all of the expenses of running something as large as the Bazaar. And thanks again for the info on the Challenges. Last I had heard from anywhere was that there was at least one person that had won 8 Challenges = 4K. Apparently there were more than just him. Could you provide a link with that info?
Murkman4683 wrote...
"I also do not agree with that fact that many "posters" here think just because someone joined 3/29/10 that they are not true Bioware fans. Are you kidding me. I work in the gaming industry and I know a few people who are absolute die-hard Bioware fans, but they don't post on these forums. They own the games, the books, and the DLC. Does that make them any less of a fan of Bioware than "you"? I was a lurker for quite sometime, I joined up a long time after getting Dragon Age and even sometime after getting Mass Effect 2. Am I less of a fan? Does this
make me a shady winner?"
Ooo! Ooo! Me too! I got into the game industry back in 1977, when I went to work for TSR. Worked on and off for many of the mid-sized board and RPG companies across two decades. Of the 27 winners that registered on or after 3/29, 20 have no games registered. One would think that if they _did_ have the games, they would have taken the opportunity to register whatever qualifying games they owned. (As 7 of them did.) They most definitely had the option to do questionnaires (which I'm guessing most of them did). Were they active community participants? Not before 3/29. (Hard to do without being signed up.) Literally, is there anything to prove that they are NOT "legitimate" BW fans? Not likely. But EQUALLY, there's a distinct lack of evidence for many of the remaining 20 being BW fans and not just some people showing up for the freebies. Glass half-empty/half-full. You see things the way you want; others are likewise to see the same info and arrive at their own conclusions. All views are equally valid. It's called, "difference of opinion".
Murkman4683 wrote...
" I want to see some stats on sales before anyone can truly say that this was a advertising success for Bioware. I think they knew exactly what was going to happen; I don't think they were banking on us making them millionaires
through referral link sales. "
Just what department in a game industry company are you in? Obviously not Marketing. The value of the Marketing impact they just derived from the Bazaar activity was ENORMOUS. But the kind evidence that you will demand to see will never be made available to we wee people. Nor will the entire impact be registered until 6 months to a year from now. Once again, I know this from my hands on experience in the gaming industry as well as other businesses -- which I'm guessing you will never believe because you don't
want to believe anything I assert.
Ooo! I finally have come to the end (thus far) of your diatribe. But I have the suspcion that once I click Submit, I'll find more.
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