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[Commissar Gash]

[Tantum Dic Verbo]

thepiebaker wrote...

 atheism is thinking for yourself

Atheism is simply the belief that there is no god.  It is no guarantee of clear and independent thought, any more than a belief in god is an assurance of strict adherence to a particular moral code.

[The Governator]

Noobius_Maximo wrote...

casedawgz wrote...

If only the real Jesus had a nuke launcher.

And if only the real Jesus was interesting.

That's just wrong.  <_<

[Alamar2078]

Don't forget the the Krogans will associate a fish symbol with Shepard [he of the Presidium Fish] ...
Ash already thinks he's a god ...
Project Lazarus ...

Now if someone betrays Shepard for 30 pieces of silver you know something's up

EDIT:  Oops forgot about Legion

Modifié par Alamar2078, 21 avril 2010 - 06:06 .

[Alamar2078]

30 pieces of silver worked for Judas ... just adjust for inflation if need be and you're set

[smecky-kitteh]

my shep works on the agenda of teh ceiling cat

[Alamar2078]

My renegade Shep is best buds with the Basement Kitteh

[Izhalezan]

Collider wrote...

Renegade Zombie Jesus, guys.

I have nothing more to say my lord.

/push

How bout goodbye?

[praetor_alpha]

Killer3000ad wrote...



Ok so who's Judas ?

Ash or Kaidan.



While they were surprised to see Shepard, they failed to believe.

[lazuli]

praetor_alpha wrote...

Killer3000ad wrote...

Ok so who's Judas ?

Ash or Kaidan.

While they were surprised to see Shepard, they failed to believe.

That would be Thomas.  Their message afterward offers a hint at redemption.

[Lucky Thirteen]

I just slapped their heads on randomly. Don't take any of it seriously.

[KadeMisae]

Well, his name IS 'Shepard', a term often applied to Christ...



The twelve squaddies is a coincidence. There's twelve followers from ME1. Anderson, Tali, Garrus, Liara, Ashley, Kaiden, Wrex, Joker, Udina, Adams, Pressly, and Chakwas. Question is, which one is Judas? Probably Udina, as he repeatedly betrays Shepard, and I can totally see him sending the ship into the hands of the collectors on purpose, although almost anyone could turn out to be a traitor in ME3.



He heals the sick and wounded by waving his hands at them, opposes the forces of darkness that seek to eradicate all organic life (Or so they claim, they seem to be more interested in breeding based on events in ME2, slaughtering organics is just kinda like the way they 'do it'. Sorta like my parents... anyway)



He gets killed by a bunch of brainwashed, hierarchical bastards (Romans or Collectors, similarities are easy to spot) who once ruled an empire that encompassed most of the known world, but who are soon to be extinct.



He gets brought back to life, apparently better than ever, straightens up some stuff in his hometown (IE, beats the poop out of the collectors) and then sails off to do works of greater good, eventually storming hell and releasing all of the sinners and getting his buddy Michael to step all over Satan's face, I hope 'Michael' is the name of Shepard's gun in ME3, and by step, Bioware intends to fire madly in a vertical position directly into the primary optics of the grandaddy of all reapers.



Awesome.



What were we talking about, again?

[KadeMisae]

thepiebaker wrote...

ReconTeam wrote...

Why do people start these threads? Seriously. All it does is lure out the godless commies and cause a flame-war.

you sir are an idiot... people who worship these things that they make up called "gods" and they force others to their beliefs. force others into their single minded thinking. this is more like communism than atheism. atheism is thinking for yourself not blindly thinking the way an idiot who willing gives up sex wants you to. religion is brainwashing on a wide scale using fear to force others to do what they want.

also us atheists tend to keep to ourselves unlike you religeous folk who go door to door annoying everybody so they'll convert to your religion. the only time an atheist actually does something like that is when either you come onto our turf and start preaching or you attack us

and someone called for a flame war?

I really, REALLY didn't want to quote this, and continue a childish flame war, but I dont feel as if there's much choice.

Atheism IS a religion. Just like any religion, it consists primarily of 'documentation' written by people other than the observer, that validates their belief, regardless of reliable substantiation. Atheists, in my experience, are the most likely to attempt to force their religion down my throat, I've never met an Atheist who did not blindly follow their belief as readily as any religious radical, and get every bit as irate when someone disagreed. You treat atheism as fact, not as a theory, science itself precludes the possibility for proving an absence of something, or for disproving the presence of something. Too many variables to ever have mathematical proof of ANYTHING.

I really wouldn't appreciate it if a radical from any religion made a post to belittle people of other faiths, be that muslim, pagan, christian, or taoist. I also don't appreciate it when a radical atheist makes a post that belittles people of other faiths. Your religion of disbelief is no more or less correct than any other. Please, please be faithful to your atheism in private, and don't belittle people for having a different opinion.

[Mossa_missa]

KadeMisae wrote...

thepiebaker wrote...

ReconTeam wrote...

Why do people start these threads? Seriously. All it does is lure out the godless commies and cause a flame-war.

you sir are an idiot... people who worship these things that they make up called "gods" and they force others to their beliefs. force others into their single minded thinking. this is more like communism than atheism. atheism is thinking for yourself not blindly thinking the way an idiot who willing gives up sex wants you to. religion is brainwashing on a wide scale using fear to force others to do what they want.

also us atheists tend to keep to ourselves unlike you religeous folk who go door to door annoying everybody so they'll convert to your religion. the only time an atheist actually does something like that is when either you come onto our turf and start preaching or you attack us

and someone called for a flame war?

I really, REALLY didn't want to quote this, and continue a childish flame war, but I dont feel as if there's much choice.

Atheism IS a religion. Just like any religion, it consists primarily of 'documentation' written by people other than the observer, that validates their belief, regardless of reliable substantiation. Atheists, in my experience, are the most likely to attempt to force their religion down my throat, I've never met an Atheist who did not blindly follow their belief as readily as any religious radical, and get every bit as irate when someone disagreed. You treat atheism as fact, not as a theory, science itself precludes the possibility for proving an absence of something, or for disproving the presence of something. Too many variables to ever have mathematical proof of ANYTHING.

I really wouldn't appreciate it if a radical from any religion made a post to belittle people of other faiths, be that muslim, pagan, christian, or taoist. I also don't appreciate it when a radical atheist makes a post that belittles people of other faiths. Your religion of disbelief is no more or less correct than any other. Please, please be faithful to your atheism in private, and don't belittle people for having a different opinion.

Atheism is much of a religion as a not collecting stamps is a stamp collector. Tell me, what dogmas do atheists share? What rules do we have to follow to be atheists? What belifes do we need to have to be a atheist? Or you yust spawning nonsense from evangelists who know squat ****? The only thing all atheists have in common is a lack of/ or a none belife in a God/Gods. How the frigging heck do you make that into a religion? Did you think this trough at all?

"Just like any religion, it consists primarily of 'documentation'
written by people other than the observer, that validates their belief,
regardless of reliable substantiation." Tell me, what text do I have to read to be a atheist? We are atheists cos there are no evidence to sugest a higher power.

"Your religion of disbelief is no more or less correct than any other." Yes there is. A belife in Evolution is more correct then a disbelife in Evolution. A belife in gravity is more correct then a disbelife in gravity.

[Dark_Caduceus]

KadeMisae wrote...

thepiebaker wrote...

ReconTeam wrote...

Why do people start these threads? Seriously. All it does is lure out the godless commies and cause a flame-war.

you sir are an idiot... people who worship these things that they make up called "gods" and they force others to their beliefs. force others into their single minded thinking. this is more like communism than atheism. atheism is thinking for yourself not blindly thinking the way an idiot who willing gives up sex wants you to. religion is brainwashing on a wide scale using fear to force others to do what they want.

also us atheists tend to keep to ourselves unlike you religeous folk who go door to door annoying everybody so they'll convert to your religion. the only time an atheist actually does something like that is when either you come onto our turf and start preaching or you attack us

and someone called for a flame war?

I really, REALLY didn't want to quote this, and continue a childish flame war, but I dont feel as if there's much choice.

Atheism IS a religion. Just like any religion, it consists primarily of 'documentation' written by people other than the observer, that validates their belief, regardless of reliable substantiation. Atheists, in my experience, are the most likely to attempt to force their religion down my throat, I've never met an Atheist who did not blindly follow their belief as readily as any religious radical, and get every bit as irate when someone disagreed. You treat atheism as fact, not as a theory, science itself precludes the possibility for proving an absence of something, or for disproving the presence of something. Too many variables to ever have mathematical proof of ANYTHING.

I really wouldn't appreciate it if a radical from any religion made a post to belittle people of other faiths, be that muslim, pagan, christian, or taoist. I also don't appreciate it when a radical atheist makes a post that belittles people of other faiths. Your religion of disbelief is no more or less correct than any other. Please, please be faithful to your atheism in private, and don't belittle people for having a different opinion.

The basis for religions is dogma and faith, which conflict quite strongly with the ideals of Atheism. There are no tenants of Atheismt, no sacraments, to precepts, no arbitrary rules. Of course Atheists become irritated by religion, they need to live with it ALL the time. Also, one could argue that there exists no 100% proof of ANYTHING, it's impossible to PROVE we didn't all come into existence five minutes ago, with memories artificially implanted in our brains to fool us.

That's why I like Stephen Jay Gould's definition of a fact- "Something so likely that to not accept it would be completely silly". Sure, the possibility of any number of Gods is possible, but it is so unlikely that in the same way you would be silly to accept it. Gravity may be caused my trillions of tiny invisible fairies that pull objects towards a mass' center, the world MAY have come into existence 10,000 years ago by an omniscient, omnipotent being that cares about his creature's sex lives, but this is so improbable it's almost crazy.

Also, when someone makes a claim the burden of proof falls upon them, not everyone else. Atheism is the rejection of a belief in a deity, not an active disbelief in Gods, though it may sometimes seem that way(when one side refuses to defend their argument, the other one takes advantage of this and harps on it). In short, Atheism is the rejection of a proposed fact pushed by religious individuals.

Finally, I'm all for the acceptance of other religious/world views. But can you really argue that Atheism is a religion then continue to say every Atheist you've met is just as blindly adamant as a religious radical? I imagine I would draw tons of fire if I said every Hindu or Protestant I'd ever met blindly followed their religion just like any religious radical.

Modifié par Dark_Caduceus, 22 avril 2010 - 07:24 .

[JnEricsonx]

Hey, the reason there's no "Judas", is cause if someone betrays Shepard, he'll freaking slap em with a singularity/sniper head shot/heavy incinerate/heavy warp/SHEPARD CHARGE+shotgun/Adrenaline Burst with full-auto Revenant. That, or one of the "apostles" will freaking obliterate em. Heh, to keep it light, just remember, when they came for Jesus, Peter kicked some ass.