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Bucky_McLachlan

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kraidy1117 wrote...

angrybastards wrote...

there should have been wayyy more dialogue... i know voice acting is expensive, but the world feels kind of lonely when even your virtual friends don't want to talk.


All games suffer this.

Ya but games that are supposed to be about you recruiting a team of randomly assorted badasses should really not have so much of a problem with this. Bioware is supposed to be at the top of their game with all this sort of stuff, they kinda failed here.

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Go back to physics resistence and remove the "protection systems" nonsense,that prevent,that shielded or armored enemies are effected by most biotics.Just increase the physics reistence for bosses.(in mass effect,it was to low)
Remove thermal clips.

Modifié par tonnactus, 11 avril 2010 - 09:54 .


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I'd probably want a more elaborate suicide mission. It was done just fine, but it felt very formulaic. "This is tech portion. This is the biotic portion, etc." Also during cut scenes, it would have been nice to see unique cinematics depending on you squad character. For example, seeing Jack use her biotics while fighting the Collectors instead of a rifle. Things of that sort.

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kraidy1117 wrote...

angrybastards wrote...

there should have been wayyy more dialogue... i know voice acting is expensive, but the world feels kind of lonely when even your virtual friends don't want to talk.


All games suffer this.


True, but I noticed it a bit more in ME2 because as soon as the characters suck you into the story, the game breaks immersion by having them brush you off. That kinda miffed me.

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Choosing between changing the reapers back to feel intimidating instead boring, and moar of the characters. To make it suck less on it's weakest or to improve it even further on it's strongest side. Tough call.

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• Have actual party Banter (like Dragon Age's)

• Remove Jacob from the whole game.

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angrybastards wrote...

True, but I noticed it a bit more in ME2 because as soon as the characters suck you into the story, the game breaks immersion by having them brush you off. That kinda miffed me.


But didn't ME1 characters do this as well? You could have an enjoyable conversation one minute, then the next they're telling you to get lost. ME2 is different in that their is much less control over when you can access dialogue options. ME1 had a different one open up every time you completed an assignment from the Council. ME2 I felt like I could have 2-3 conversations back to back, hence using them up more quickly.

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get rid of that mission summary c**p! It shouldn't feel like im going from stage to stage in the game. Unless i'm playing more than character, levels should flow between each other, so i can't tell when one starts and the other ends. Otherwise you end up fragmenting the story, also known as destroying it. Hell even most shooters have realized this.

Modifié par wulf3n, 11 avril 2010 - 10:07 .


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kraidy1117 wrote...

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Side Quests. Made them less sukier.


and bring back ME sidequest tjhat sucked more? No thank you, I rather have unique side quest.


Ah yes you are soooo right. It's so much more unique to go in guns blazing shoot a few things plug a battery into a robots bum then push a button and leave with no dialogue at all. I sure am glad they did that! Thank god they got rid of missions like Major Kyle, the crazy Exo-Geni scientists, the creepy lost freighter, Tombs plus all those others. Just to save us the generic environments and driving the MAKO....oh wait they could have kept that kind of mission without the generic environments.....hmmmm

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Give me an actual streamlined inventory, not something prentending to be an inventory.

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Sesshomaru47 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Sesshomaru47 wrote...

Side Quests. Made them less sukier.


and bring back ME sidequest tjhat sucked more? No thank you, I rather have unique side quest.


Ah yes you are soooo right. It's so much more unique to go in guns blazing shoot a few things plug a battery into a robots bum then push a button and leave with no dialogue at all. I sure am glad they did that! Thank god they got rid of missions like Major Kyle, the crazy Exo-Geni scientists, the creepy lost freighter, Tombs plus all those others. Just to save us the generic environments and driving the MAKO....oh wait they could have kept that kind of mission without the generic environments.....hmmmm


Really?  Don't you think they would have if they could have?

EDIT: And yes, I'd rather take unique missions over unique dialogue.  Sidequests should be either a gameplay diversion or a story diversion.  ME 2 has both.  ME 1 had more on the story diversion, but little on the gameplay diversion.

Modifié par Onyx Jaguar, 11 avril 2010 - 10:11 .


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Put team banter back... though not necessarily the elevators that went with it. There was wonderful banter all around the game - all the extras chatting along - but even a funeral is noisier than your team. And yeah in a bit of an echo to an earlier post, I'd pick that over getting rid of scanning :P

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Onyx Jaguar wrote...
Really?  Don't you think they would have if they could have?


but what was stopping them?

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wulf3n wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...
Really?  Don't you think they would have if they could have?


but what was stopping them?


Thats why they aren't there?

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Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Sesshomaru47 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Sesshomaru47 wrote...

Side Quests. Made them less sukier.


and bring back ME sidequest tjhat sucked more? No thank you, I rather have unique side quest.


Ah yes you are soooo right. It's so much more unique to go in guns blazing shoot a few things plug a battery into a robots bum then push a button and leave with no dialogue at all. I sure am glad they did that! Thank god they got rid of missions like Major Kyle, the crazy Exo-Geni scientists, the creepy lost freighter, Tombs plus all those others. Just to save us the generic environments and driving the MAKO....oh wait they could have kept that kind of mission without the generic environments.....hmmmm


Really?  Don't you think they would have if they could have?


You mean take more time and produce the game properly instead of rushing it out like EA told them too? Or maybe not be lazy? I don't get what you mean...

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Yes, EVERYGAME EVER COULD USE A LITTLE MORE CONTENT.




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GodWood wrote...

• Have actual party Banter (like Dragon Age's)
• Remove Jacob from the whole game.

^this. but, if they remove Jacob from the game, who would much of the community have to make fun of...besides Kaiden and his pink armor...

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Onyx Jaguar

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And seriously, ME 2 rushed out? Of all the Bioware games I've played since MDK 2 and Jade Empire it was the most polished game with the most unique content.

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Sesshomaru47 wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Sesshomaru47 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Sesshomaru47 wrote...

Side Quests. Made them less sukier.


and bring back ME sidequest tjhat sucked more? No thank you, I rather have unique side quest.


Ah yes you are soooo right. It's so much more unique to go in guns blazing shoot a few things plug a battery into a robots bum then push a button and leave with no dialogue at all. I sure am glad they did that! Thank god they got rid of missions like Major Kyle, the crazy Exo-Geni scientists, the creepy lost freighter, Tombs plus all those others. Just to save us the generic environments and driving the MAKO....oh wait they could have kept that kind of mission without the generic environments.....hmmmm


Really?  Don't you think they would have if they could have?


You mean take more time and produce the game properly instead of rushing it out like EA told them too? Or maybe not be lazy? I don't get what you mean...


at least they aren't *coughActivisioncough*

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Onyx Jaguar wrote...

wulf3n wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...
Really?  Don't you think they would have if they could have?


but what was stopping them?


Thats why they aren't there?


I think you missed my point.

If the first game had more "Story" to the side missions, and the second game is supposed to be an improvement:

Then what was stopping them from making the side missions more interesting story wise?

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wulf3n wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

wulf3n wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...
Really?  Don't you think they would have if they could have?


but what was stopping them?


Thats why they aren't there?


I think you missed my point.

If the first game had more "Story" to the side missions, and the second game is supposed to be an improvement:

Then what was stopping them from making the side missions more interesting story wise?


ME 2 already has more dialogue.  It is unecessary to add additional costs onto the game development by using Voice Actors when you can supplement costs by adding more gameplay which allows the game some flexibility.

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shnizzler93 wrote...

GodWood wrote...

• Have actual party Banter (like Dragon Age's)
• Remove Jacob from the whole game.

^this. but, if they remove Jacob from the game, who would much of the community have to make fun of...besides Kaiden and his pink armor...


It's orange/red not pink. It's Alliance armour not Phoenix. The fire makes it look pink.

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Sesshomaru47 wrote...

shnizzler93 wrote...

GodWood wrote...

• Have actual party Banter (like Dragon Age's)
• Remove Jacob from the whole game.

^this. but, if they remove Jacob from the game, who would much of the community have to make fun of...besides Kaiden and his pink armor...


It's orange/red not pink. It's Alliance armour not Phoenix. The fire makes it look pink.


I know, I know. I'm just quoting what a lot of the community is doing. I knew it wasn't pink the first time i saw it (Ashley, Kaiden, and Liara all have the same armor on the SR1)

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Shepard: Hey Garrus, you, me, Joker, and Jacob are going to party on the citadel.
Garrus: Can it wait a minute, I am in the middle of some cali...
Shepard: *slams Garrus' head into the console* Shut your damn mouth, there is no way in hell these guns which we have used like twice need to be calibrated every 15 minutes! Now come with me to look at Asari strippers or I'll toss you out of the airlock!

Modifié par ReconTeam, 11 avril 2010 - 10:18 .


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Onyx Jaguar wrote...

wulf3n wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

wulf3n wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...
Really?  Don't you think they would have if they could have?


but what was stopping them?


Thats why they aren't there?


I think you missed my point.

If the first game had more "Story" to the side missions, and the second game is supposed to be an improvement:

Then what was stopping them from making the side missions more interesting story wise?


ME 2 already has more dialogue.  It is unecessary to add additional costs onto the game development by using Voice Actors when you can supplement costs by adding more gameplay which allows the game some flexibility.


When this was coming out and the developers were telling their lies to the press they said the sidequests would be worth doing. They'll totally relate back to the main quest, you'll want to do them. Well I did my first time round, what a big fat waste of effing time that was. Button pushing and Beacon flash back is not story related. They were short on time, not talent and vocal cords or costs. It makes the main game very short now...just save them so Legion will talk to you.