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#51
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No! They must all return as squadmates. Samara included. Don't tell me she only signed on to destroy the Collectors. She is a Justicar and there is no greater threat to innocent life than the Reapers. If she left that would make no sense.

She explicitly says she'll come back should you ask in one of her conversations.

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Solomen wrote...

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kraidy1117 wrote...

How about you go to hell?


I second this, but add a "f*ckn" between "you" and "go." The earth would shake from the angry mob that would form if you had a whole new squad for ME3, and I would be part of that angry mob.


Actually, I can't think of ANYONE on these boards who would be satisfied with that.  *Everyone* has favorites.


After the suicide mission I personally would send Tali and Legion to get the flotilla and the Geth ready for the reapers, Mordin to the STG, Grunt to Tuchanka, Miranda and Jack to get rid of TIM, etc.
Meanwhile I'd run around being diplomatic and look for new allies for the fight.  Image IPB


You are a ****en moron.  I rather have people I trust, not a bunch of new people. Go to hell and stay there.


I'd rather have people I trust doing things I can't do.  Shepard can't be everywhere at once Image IPB

Yes, realistically Shepard cannot be on a mission to save the galaxy and at the same time deal with every little problem people ask him/her for help with. However that would nix half the game's content. I think that all of the important stuff the squaddies would otherwise be doing should still get done, but Shepard should be there to see it through.

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There's no reason why they must work against the Reapers without Shepard, Solomen. Most people are attached to the characters and wouldn't want new ones in place of them. That includes as squad mates.

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Solomen wrote...

If you really look at things objectively this is an acceptable option.  Do you really think Shepard would have these people followng him around when they could be out preparing for the final battle while he is taking care of whatever quest he is on.  Tali could be getting the fleet in order if you didn't get her exiled.  Mordin could be working with the STG.  Grunt could be training "The Lance".  Samara and Thane only signed up for the suicide mission.  Miranda could very well take over Cerberus. 
So I say mostly new team with cameos from the ol;d team.

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...That's pretty extreme, Commander.

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hey Op I have one thing to say Hell No. you ME 1 lovers are starting to become like a cult

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A sexy cult

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kraidy1117 wrote...

How about you go to hell?



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you Mass Effect 1 lovers can go to the hell. Its high time you guys either accept ME 2 or STFU

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a sexy hell

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ExtremeOne wrote...

hey Op I have one thing to say Hell No. you ME 1 lovers are starting to become like a cult


I've never even played ME1 and can't find a copy Image IPB

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Solomen wrote...

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Why would they let you pursue LI with two characters from the first game and then just throw them out the window for ME3? :/


Becauset the OP is a moron and a troll.


The OP is ex-military and wrote for the Hackmaster RPG Image IPB

You realize that none of those things are mutually exclusive, right?

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Lol, every single poll that's been made on this site which asks if you want new squadmates or bring back the old ones, literally 95% of the voters say to keep the old squadmates.



Bioware will fail miserably if they make all new squadmates.

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OP got +1, lets keep fighting the good fight!

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shinobi602 wrote...

Lol, every single poll that's been made on this site which asks if you want new squadmates or bring back the old ones, literally 95% of the voters say to keep the old squadmates.

Bioware will fail miserably if they make all new squadmates.

Indeed.
social.bioware.com/892908/polls/1974/
~98%

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Collider wrote...

shinobi602 wrote...

Lol, every single poll that's been made on this site which asks if you want new squadmates or bring back the old ones, literally 95% of the voters say to keep the old squadmates.

Bioware will fail miserably if they make all new squadmates.

Indeed.
social.bioware.com/892908/polls/1974/
~98%


If they bring in "new" squaddies they better be the old ones of ME1, not a bunch of untested nobodies. ME3 is the final stretch we don't have time to integrate new people into the crew. Shepard needs people Shep can trust.

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I'd love to see squadmates return, but frankly, it wasn't that long ago that the ME2 squad were new, and you get used to them. Just look at how quickly Kasumi gathered a following. So on the one hand, part of me is looking forward to the discovery of new characters, even though I want to see how the story unfolds for the characters I've already met.



I kind of expect BW will do something to split the difference. They probably know by now the brief "cameo" approach didn't really satisfy, but at the same time, they 'll have to work out a way to balance the game across characters who may or may not exist for everyone.



So, one thing they could do is, instead of having old squad have "cameo" dialog, simply move the "cameo" amount of dialog to the *new* filler squad. Glorified redshirts, if you will. As an example, say somehow you end up working for Aria. She orders her goons to help you, if you need people, so you get her Batarian dude. He would have no conversation wheel, and they can even use his dialog from before "Talk? You want to talk, talk to Aria." His combat could be a clone of a potentially dead squadmate. That saves more of the Voice Acting and story budget for the old squad and new and existing NPCs (like Aria), but still allows for those people who lost most of their team to have a large enough squad to get through the game. So, no new "buddies" or "Li's", because if your Shep lost half your squad in the previous mission, you're probably not in a friendly mood anyway :P

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I think this scenario is different, Peppard. Yes, ME2 had mostly new squad mates, but ME2 was not the end of the trilogy. ME3 is. We want the current characters we have to have their stories wrapped up and preferably fighting with Shepard.

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If done properly, and if bioware had no other option, i would not be terribly angry if they did this.

however i would vastly prefer my old team.

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apotheosic wrote...

If done properly, and if bioware had no other option, i would not be terribly angry if they did this.
however i would vastly prefer my old team.


There is no such thing as other problems. Bioware must have had a plan if they decided that it's poseable too have people die in ME2 and if they thought these characters where not gonig to be very popular, then they where wrong. I would be too scared to come on these forums if Tali was not a squadmate.

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You could rectify this with having quest specific squads... If the character is dead then it won't be available for the specific story arc, so the cameo character can be a squadmate for specific missions.

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Solomen wrote...

You could rectify this with having quest specific squads... If the character is dead then it won't be available for the specific story arc, so the cameo character can be a squadmate for specific missions.


How about your ME3 squad consist of ME and ME2 party members? There we go, people are happy.

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kraidy1117 wrote...

apotheosic wrote...

If done properly, and if bioware had no other option, i would not be terribly angry if they did this.
however i would vastly prefer my old team.


There is no such thing as other problems. Bioware must have had a plan if they decided that it's poseable too have people die in ME2 and if they thought these characters where not gonig to be very popular, then they where wrong. I would be too scared to come on these forums if Tali was not a squadmate.

As much as a Talimancer as I am...I'd leave this forum permanently if Bioware pulled that crap.

Matter of fact, I probably wouldn't even buy the game if they told us "Hey, all those people you've grown to know and love over the past 60 hours of gameplay?  Yeah, we're tossing them aside and introducing you to new people in the FINALE OF A TRILOGY.  Enjoy that."

Hell no <_<

Modifié par JeanLuc761, 12 avril 2010 - 03:47 .


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JeanLuc761 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

apotheosic wrote...

If done properly, and if bioware had no other option, i would not be terribly angry if they did this.
however i would vastly prefer my old team.


There is no such thing as other problems. Bioware must have had a plan if they decided that it's poseable too have people die in ME2 and if they thought these characters where not gonig to be very popular, then they where wrong. I would be too scared to come on these forums if Tali was not a squadmate.

As much as a Talimancer as I am...I'd leave this forum permanently if Bioware pulled that crap.



Thats why if Tali is recruitable, then Miri, Garrus, Jack, Thane, Jacob, Ash, Kaidan and Liara will be, if one of those are not, then all of them should not be.

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kraidy1117 wrote...

Solomen wrote...

You could rectify this with having quest specific squads... If the character is dead then it won't be available for the specific story arc, so the cameo character can be a squadmate for specific missions.


How about your ME3 squad consist of ME and ME2 party members? There we go, people are happy.


This. And it makes sense because the end of a trilogy usually comes full circle. Shep's gonna need all the help available to stop the Reapers. Why not bring in the whole gang for the last great battles.

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kraidy1117 wrote...

JeanLuc761 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

apotheosic wrote...

If done properly, and if bioware had no other option, i would not be terribly angry if they did this.
however i would vastly prefer my old team.


There is no such thing as other problems. Bioware must have had a plan if they decided that it's poseable too have people die in ME2 and if they thought these characters where not gonig to be very popular, then they where wrong. I would be too scared to come on these forums if Tali was not a squadmate.

As much as a Talimancer as I am...I'd leave this forum permanently if Bioware pulled that crap.



Thats why if Tali is recruitable, then Miri, Garrus, Jack, Thane, Jacob, Ash, Kaidan and Liara will be, if one of those are not, then all of them should not be.

Even ignoring the romance aspect (which I love with a passion, don't get me wrong), it's just flatout stupid to toss aside well known characters in the finale for a bunch of newbies.  There is no LOGICAL reason for it, there's just a LAZY reason.

 I know people argue "Well liara and ashley were tossed aside so ME2 characters can be too!"  Sorry, two completely different situations.  ME2 was the middle of a trilogy, where characters can believably be pushed aside to make a grand return in the finale.

Really, if Bioware decides to toss all the characters out because they could have been killed, then they're not only taking the lazy route, but they're not giving any real consequence to the people who lost their entire squad in ME2.