1527 réponses à ce sujet

[Jack Package]

I've never that much rubbish in another thread here. I wonder though, why still people try to argue with stubborn morons, this never works.

Close the thread.

[nikki191]

i respect and trust jacob he's very up front. i like the guy but something was missing with him, almost like a wasted opportunity i cant put my finger on

[Major Truth]

Darkhour wrote...

PTPR wrote...

Darkhour wrote...

Polka14 wrote...

You need to be banned. Reported for hate speech.

Why? Because the truth being laid out in the open makes you feel uncomfortable? Want to assassinate me? I think the system of racism has been refined beyond the need for the tactics of the past. We all know separate and not equal is the rule of law in this world. And we are all fairly certain that the KKK, skin heads, neo-**** party, etc aren't the people in control. So who does that leave? Open bigotry does not benefit white supremacy. The KKK are stupid racist. They lose their ability to practice racism because they let their victims know they are being mistreated. Their only think they really accomplish is convincing non-white people they they are the epitome of racism when all they really are is loud mouth idiots. The smart racists, the vast majority of white people, mistreat non-white people systematically. White people don't like being called out for it. They don't want to be uncomforatable around their non-white co-workers and "friends". I especially liked one posters comment which amounted to, "yeah, racism exists. Blah blah blah. We need to work to end it, but let's not get into this conversation". For a first class cititzen (i.e white person) who is already sitting on top it's a pretty good idea to sweep things under the rug and continue business as usual, but for a second or third class citizen (non-white person) that is plain stupid. Only white people can end racism and allowing white people to remain comfortable with this current system of inequality isn't going to spur them to end it. Non-white people are practically facilitating it by not speaking up.

When I say white people are a racist I'm not talking about stupid racism like the KKK.

Though I am sure this won't make a difference........aren't you being racist by putting white people together and saying they are all racist?
(I should really stop posting in this thread.)

No. 

I do not benefit from the system of racism. I am a victim. White people benefit from being white compared to being non-white and they all know this. I like how white people try to reduce the meaning of racism down to "name calling". Using so-called "racial slurs" does not make you a racist. Mistreating people on the basis of color is what makes people racist. Being complacent with the systematic mistreatment of people on the basis of color is racist. A person who fights against race-ist is not a white person. They would have to give up their social standing in order to fight for equality and justice.

Keep trying to make this an issue of biology. It wouldn't be the first time a white supremacist did this. It is very important to white people to keep up the illusion that race is about biology.

Do you have any views on Mass Effect ?

[Beholderess]

Ok, guess it's time to close this thread (and here I am bumping it. I know, I know. Shame on me), as we're obviosly not having civil conversation anymore. Or even a conversation relevant to the topic.

Thank you so much, Darkhour.

[Nazomi]

Beholderess wrote...

Ok, guess it's time to close this thread (and here I am bumping it. I know, I know. Shame on me), as we're obviosly not having civil conversation anymore. Or even a conversation relevant to the topic.
Thank you so much, Darkhour.

Maybe those of you who are so irritated by this thread topic should just ignore it at all rather than moaning about it or posting fake troll arguements.

[Masticetobbacco]

lolrascism

[MajesticJazz]

Aniki_21 wrote...

askanec wrote...

It could be that people are sub-consciously racist and finding things about Jacob to pick on. Just because someone says "I'm not racist" doesn't make it true.

It's really no different from being blinded by inner prejudice. Just look at what happened to Ashley or Kaidan, they associate Cerebus with Evil Incarnate. When Shepard appeared, they paint him with the same brush immediately, instead of listening to reason or logic. I really wish I could just shoot them right there and then.

Very true. I don't know of many racists who actually admit to it. While not even the point of the OP the fact is there is still a lot of blatant anti-black racism around. It's pretty easy to see online in places where you can get away with it. Seriously it's nearly impossible to see a clip on youtube of a black person doing something remotely negative without seeing any blatantly racist comments. Go look for yourself if you don't believe it. Places like this forum you have to keep your racism veiled (albeit, thinly in some cases). So ultimately there still are pleanty of people with issues of racism and it's hardly "reddiculous" to see how it could come in to play with some of the people who dislike Jacob.

Thank you Aniki_21, well said.

[onelifecrisis]

FlintlockJazz wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

FlintlockJazz wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

Polka, that joke is getting really, really tiresome.

I don't think he's joking.

Trolling, joking, whatever, it's time a moderator got rid of him.

He should be got rid of for reporting someone for rascism?  Okay...

I take it you're new to this thread? Read back a bit. For the last half a dozen pages (maybe more, I don't know) Polka has replied to every other post with "reported for hate speech" (and usually nothing else). I don't know if it's meant to be funny or he just likes watching people react to it, but either way it's getting tiresome.

[FlintlockJazz]

onelifecrisis wrote...

FlintlockJazz wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

FlintlockJazz wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

Polka, that joke is getting really, really tiresome.

I don't think he's joking.

Trolling, joking, whatever, it's time a moderator got rid of him.

He should be got rid of for reporting someone for rascism?  Okay...

I take it you're new to this thread? Read back a bit. For the last half a dozen pages (maybe more, I don't know) Polka has replied to every other post with "reported for hate speech" (and usually nothing else). I don't know if it's meant to be funny or he just likes watching people react to it, but either way it's getting tiresome.

Considering what he is responding to I think he is perfectly justified in doing so. 

And checking the last half dozen pages, most of his posts have not included that at all, and the ones that have seem to be justified.  *Shrug*

[Nigawatts]

NB4CLOSE DAWG.

[Darkhour]

Nu-Nu wrote...

I'm mix race and I had raciscm from both sides, of what I am, so believe me when I say you are just as capable of being racist.  But you know what I get on great with 90% of the people I come across.  I'm not going to let that **** turn me into someone bitter and hate everyone and lump them together.  Sure, there be some people who don't like Jacob because of his skin, but I genuinely believe it's a small percentage of the people who dislike Jacob. 

You sir are a racist and need to grow up.

Any person can mistreat another person. If a white child goes to a school whose majority is color classified as "black" he can expect to have trouble. The question is: Why?

Why would non-white people react to a white person negatively? We both know what the reason is. It is regretable that you were mistreated because of your parentage (I have been mistreated because of my light skin color), but humans are going to act out. It's in their nature. The condition of non-whites is a reaction to white supremacy. The whole dark skin vs light light, mexican vs puerto rican, I hate whitey syndrome, etc. are reactions white supremacy. Some of which was instigated by white people. It's sad that non-white people have to stoop to mistreating each other in order to find self worth in a system which only values white citizens. But they fail to realize there is no number 2. I've heard alot of people color classified as "yellow" assert they are #2 on the totem pole. They seek relationships with white people to "up their status" and turn their noses at other asiatic ethnic groups and other non-whites. This is not racism, but a reaction to racism. But there is no ranking. There are white people and non-white people. That's it. No matter who they have sex with, are "friends" with, etc. they are non-white and will never be upgraded through their own individual actions.

Modifié par Darkhour, 29 avril 2010 - 06:35 .

[Polka14]

[DARKHOUR THE RACIST SAID] Why? Because the truth being laid out in the open makes you feel uncomfortable? Want to assassinate me? I think the system of racism has been refined beyond the need for the tactics of the past. We all know separate and not equal is the rule of law in this world. And we are all fairly certain that the KKK, skin heads, neo-**** party, etc aren't the people in control. So who does that leave? Open bigotry does not benefit white supremacy. The KKK are stupid racist. They lose their ability to practice racism because they let their victims know they are being mistreated. Their only think they really accomplish is convincing non-white people they they are the epitome of racism when all they really are is loud mouth idiots. The smart racists, the vast majority of white people, mistreat non-white people systematically. White people don't like being called out for it. They don't want to be uncomforatable around their non-white co-workers and "friends". I especially liked one posters comment which amounted to, "yeah, racism exists. Blah blah blah. We need to work to end it, but let's not get into this conversation". For a first class cititzen (i.e white person) who is already sitting on top it's a pretty good idea to sweep things under the rug and continue business as usual, but for a second or third class citizen (non-white person) that is plain stupid. Only white people can end racism and allowing white people to remain comfortable with this current system of inequality isn't going to spur them to end it. Non-white people are practically facilitating it by not speaking up.

When I say white people are a racist I'm not talking about stupid racism like the KKK.[END QUOTE]

Racist. Reported again.

[DARKHOUR SAID]No.

I do not benefit from the system of racism. I am a victim. White people benefit from being white compared to being non-white and they all know this. I like how white people try to reduce the meaning of racism down to "name calling". Using so-called "racial slurs" does not make you a racist. Mistreating people on the basis of color is what makes people racist. Being complacent with the systematic mistreatment of people on the basis of color is racist. A person who fights against race-ist is not a white person. They would have to give up their social standing in order to fight for equality and justice.

Keep trying to make this an issue of biology. It wouldn't be the first time a white supremacist did this. It is very important to white people to keep up the illusion that race is about biology. [END QUOTE]

You are insane. End of story. Reported for hate speech.

[onelifecrisis wrote]
I take it you're new to this thread? Read back a bit. For the last half a dozen pages (maybe more, I don't know) Polka has replied to every other post with "reported for hate speech" (and usually nothing else). I don't know if it's meant to be funny or he just likes watching people react to it, but either way it's getting tiresome.[END QUOTE]

Racism is not acceptable. I will report all instances of it.

[DARKHOUR wrote]Any person can mistreat another person. If a white child goes to a
school whose majority is color classified as "black" he can expect to
have trouble. The question is: Why?

Why would non-white people
react to a white person negatively? We both no what the reason is. It
is regreetable that you were mistreated because of your parentage (I
have been mistreated because of my light skin color), but humans are
going to act out. It's in their nature. The condition of non-whites is
a reaction to white supremacy. The whole dark skin vs light light,
mexican vs puerto rican, I hate whitey syndrome, etc. are reactions
white supremacy. Some of which was instigated by white people. It's sad
that non-white people have to stoop to mistreating each other in order
to find self worth in a system which only values white citizens. But
they fail to realize there is no number 2. I've heard alot of people
color classified as "yellow" assert they are #2 on the totem pole. They
seek relationships with white people to "up their status" and turn
their noses at other asiatic ethnic groups and other non-whites. This
is not racism, but a reaction to racism. But there
is no ranking. There are white people and non-white people. That's it.
No matter who they have sex with, are "friends" with, etc. they are
non-white and will never be upgraded through their own individual
actions.[END QUOTE]

Reported. I can do this all day.

[Darkhour]

Jack Package wrote...

I've never that much rubbish in another thread here. I wonder though, why still people try to argue with stubborn morons, this never works.
Close the thread.

No one is forcing you to visit or read this thread. Go away if you don't like it. You act like you have some vested interest in censoring what I post.

[Masticetobbacco]

KKK = kool kids klub right?

[Polka14]

Masticetobbacco wrote...

KKK = kool kids klub right?

knock it off or ill report you too.

[Speakeasy13]

Polka14 wrote...

Masticetobbacco wrote...

KKK = kool kids klub right?

knock it off or ill report you too.

I don't think he means it. Let's not overreact...

[FlintlockJazz]

I'm sorry, but its time for this thread to be Minsc'd.



Minscing in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1...



A den of stinking evil! Cover your nose Boo, we'll leave no crevice untouched!

[Nostradamoose]

Darkhour wrote...

Nu-Nu wrote...

I'm mix race and I had raciscm from both sides, of what I am, so believe me when I say you are just as capable of being racist.  But you know what I get on great with 90% of the people I come across.  I'm not going to let that **** turn me into someone bitter and hate everyone and lump them together.  Sure, there be some people who don't like Jacob because of his skin, but I genuinely believe it's a small percentage of the people who dislike Jacob. 

You sir are a racist and need to grow up.

Any person can mistreat another person. If a white child goes to a school whose majority is color classified as "black" he can expect to have trouble. The question is: Why?

Why would non-white people react to a white person negatively? We both know what the reason is. It is regretable that you were mistreated because of your parentage (I have been mistreated because of my light skin color), but humans are going to act out. It's in their nature. The condition of non-whites is a reaction to white supremacy. The whole dark skin vs light light, mexican vs puerto rican, I hate whitey syndrome, etc. are reactions white supremacy. Some of which was instigated by white people. It's sad that non-white people have to stoop to mistreating each other in order to find self worth in a system which only values white citizens. But they fail to realize there is no number 2. I've heard alot of people color classified as "yellow" assert they are #2 on the totem pole. They seek relationships with white people to "up their status" and turn their noses at other asiatic ethnic groups and other non-whites. This is not racism, but a reaction to racism. But there is no ranking. There are white people and non-white people. That's it. No matter who they have sex with, are "friends" with, etc. they are non-white and will never be upgraded through their own individual actions.

What about indivisions between White people, while at it, that is something you never considered as well. I do remember being specifically told by table neighbours in a Restaurant in Toront to "Speak White", apparently, they didn't like me speaking French. Or when I've been told to "Go home, you damn French Frog" in New-York because someone didn't like my accent. You're missing the point, there's gonna be racism everywhere, anyone can be a victim of racism, but that doesn't mean everyone of a said group is a racist.

Overgeneralisations tend to be just that, overdone.

[Siansonea]

Come on everybody. Don't you know when you're being deliberately baited? Darkhour clearly thrives on drama, and getting people mad at him/her. Don't let him/her harsh your calm. Darkhour has tried to bait me in other threads, it's his/her standard MO. If you refuse to give in to his/her inflammatory speech, he/she will get bored and go somewhere else.



I agree this thread should probably be closed at this point. It's a pretty belabored point, and it wasn't a very insightful point to start with. The word 'preposterous' springs to mind.

[Darkhour]

Siansonea II wrote...

Come on everybody. Don't you know when you're being deliberately baited? Darkhour clearly thrives on drama, and getting people mad at him/her. Don't let him/her harsh your calm. Darkhour has tried to bait me in other threads, it's his/her standard MO. If you refuse to give in to his/her inflammatory speech, he/she will get bored and go somewhere else.

I agree this thread should probably be closed at this point. It's a pretty belabored point, and it wasn't a very insightful point to start with. The word 'preposterous' springs to mind.

Is that so? As I recall you admitted that your views did not constitute objective fact and went back on your previous statements that people who disagreeed with your position were blind, irrational, closed-minded fools. What reason would I have to further plead my case when you conceded?

Just because you don't like what I am saying doesn't make it trollish nor does it mean I'm posting specifically to get a rise out of you. Perhaps you think justice and equality are a joke. I beg to differ.

Modifié par Darkhour, 29 avril 2010 - 10:30 .

[Polka14]

Darkhour wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

Come on everybody. Don't you know when you're being deliberately baited? Darkhour clearly thrives on drama, and getting people mad at him/her. Don't let him/her harsh your calm. Darkhour has tried to bait me in other threads, it's his/her standard MO. If you refuse to give in to his/her inflammatory speech, he/she will get bored and go somewhere else.

I agree this thread should probably be closed at this point. It's a pretty belabored point, and it wasn't a very insightful point to start with. The word 'preposterous' springs to mind.

Perhaps you think justice and equality are a joke. I beg to differ.

The only joke around here is you and your racism. You have no argument. You have no moral standing. Deliberate insults, attacks, and racial provocation is all you have written. You should be ashemed for yourself.

[Nazomi]

You know i'd like to actually hear from some people what they think would make Jacob more interesting? Would being more like Cole-Train from Gears of War make him more interesting as a previous poster asked?

[kregano]

Nazomi wrote...

You know i'd like to actually hear from some people what they think would make Jacob more interesting? Would being more like Cole-Train from Gears of War make him more interesting as a previous poster asked?

-Have him talk about his time with the Corsairs, the events of ME Galaxy, and his time with Cerberus.
-Make his loyalty mission be about an old Corsair friend or something.
-Have him show some emotions once in a while.
-Better skill set.
-Fix the romance

[Polka14]

Nazomi wrote...

You know i'd like to actually hear from some people what they think would make Jacob more interesting? Would being more like Cole-Train from Gears of War make him more interesting as a previous poster asked?

Give jacob singularity and give us more options for conversation about his past and he will be a good member of the team.

[Siansonea]

Darkhour wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

Come on everybody. Don't you know when you're being deliberately baited? Darkhour clearly thrives on drama, and getting people mad at him/her. Don't let him/her harsh your calm. Darkhour has tried to bait me in other threads, it's his/her standard MO. If you refuse to give in to his/her inflammatory speech, he/she will get bored and go somewhere else.

I agree this thread should probably be closed at this point. It's a pretty belabored point, and it wasn't a very insightful point to start with. The word 'preposterous' springs to mind.

Is that so? As I recall you admitted that your views did not constitute objective fact and went back on your previous statements that people who disagreeed with your position were blind, irrational, closed-minded fools. What reason would I have to further plead my case when you conceded?

Just because you don't like what I am saying doesn't make it trollish nor does it mean I'm posting specifically to get a rise out of you. Perhaps you think justice and equality are a joke. I beg to differ.

I believe you have illustrated my point perfectly. This type of communication is not helpful to an intelligent conversation about an important topic. It's obvious to everyone that your goal is not to further understanding, but to create drama and controversy. It's simply what you do. If you genuinely wished to communicate something meaningful, your approach would not be so confrontational and divisive. You would seek to make points in such a way that people think about what you say, not simply respond viscerally in a negative way.

Let the record show that at no point have I ever proclaimed anyone to be "blind, irrational, closed-minded fools" in any context in any conversation on these boards. If this is an attempt at editorializing, it is defamatory.

Also let the record show that I strongly favor justice and equality, on this one point Darkhour and myself appear to agree. I think my way of showing it is more effective than Darkhour's, however.