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[julian08]

I don't know if it has been officially confirmed, but from what I've heard DA2 will be released in early 2011, and the fact that the sequel is going to be released so soon worries me a bit. It smells too much like the infamous EA tactic of releasing a ton of uninventive sequels as quickly as possible until every last drop of charm, creativity and uniqueness the first game might have possessed is sucked out and the biggest differences between the games are the numbers behind the title.

But then again, maybe I'm overreacting. I mean, DA:O took years to finish, but that included the graphic engine and a completely new game world. So maybe one year is enough to create a worthy sequel. Plus, I don't know the first thing about DA2 yet, so I guess I really have no right to start complaining about it.

So let's just say I'm a little concerned, and I would just like to know if I'm the only one. I really trust Bioware, but I'm suspicious about another party that's involved. I think I would feel better if Bioware had just said: "It's done when it's done."
As long as it doesn't take twelve years

[OrlesianWardenCommander]

Does seem a bit to soon but im excited none the less cause this game is a cliff hanger everytime i finish DAO and DA:A i wana continue with the adventure,



All we can do is pray its good hope EA has given Bioware a blank check and wait for reviews. Worries me cause EA loves ruining there best games *cough battlefeild cough*

[Wonderllama4]

I have a feeling it will be the second and last expansion for Dragon Age Origins. the next full sequel is probably a long time away. the graphics could use a lot of work. I see it being released soon after Mass Effect 3

[Gebut]

Story wise, im not so worried about the time frame with Dragon Age 2. I liked Awakenings story, but the expansion had way to many bugs and its a mystery that they still havnt fixed them yet with a patch.



So in other words, its mostly the execution I'm most worried about when thinking about future games/expansions in the Dragon Age universe. Its easy to blame EA, but its probably Bioware who were too optimistic with their time frame regarding the expansion. Lets hope they correct this with future titles, and most importantly, wake up regarding support of their current games before planing the next installments.

[LyudmilaKatzen]

It seems awful early to me too, not only from a technical perspective as has been noted, but for other reasons too. This is a huge game, I won't be nearly done exhausting all the possibilities of it by then. lol And it hasn't been out that long...seems like they'd wait and let more new people get into it and get sucked in before dumping a brand new game out on the market. Seems like folks would see a new sequel coming out and think "Oh, I'll wait and get the first one with the second one, it'll be cheaper then). But then, Valve did it with Left 4 Dead and L4D2 (there was what, a year maybe between them? too lazy to look it up). The capitalized on a hot commodity (whether or not that was the intent) and people are just eating it up.

[DragonShepard138]

Since they've been working on Origins for a long time, there are many concepts that were rejected. Now they are probably working on these ones to make them acceptable (if not they'll toss 'em) as well as adding new concepts. Another thing they may end up doing is to cut and paste textures/buildings into new maps and upgrade the graphics on them. As for weapons/armor and enemies they only need to be slightly updated and have new ones added along with them. For example, a building wall is a building wall, but the shape of the building can differ completely which will appear new to viewers. February of next year is just about the right amount of time for them to do this for a brand new game, and if not, since they never made any claims that it will be a brand new game, it may be another expansion similar to Awakening but better.

Modifié par DragonShepard138, 12 avril 2010 - 06:21 .

[OrlesianWardenCommander]

If they just fix the bugs

Fix the frame rate

Fix autosave lags

Bring back All the fan favs from DA:O and maybe anders and the crew from awakening

Add even more spells and abilitys although i'd be happy with just having everything from awakening.

Upgrade the bodys a bit so not everybody has the same bod



Then i'd be happy graphics are fine all they need to do is stick to the good voice acting, good writing, fix the bugs and, stick the the "original plot" and ill be happy.

Oh yeah and make "Most" of the choices carry over.

[Nerdage]

Honestly, all I'd want from DA2 is a new/more story, I know they said they wanted to improve the graphics for the next game but I'm not sure how much improvement there is to be had with the rest. That said I have no idea how much work goes into making any part of a game, but I should think that alot of the work that went into origins could be recycled for the next one.

[Gebut]

DragonShepard138 you are right of course, that they don't have to reinvent the wheel again. If its another expansion the time frame seems fine. If its dragon Age 2, I think people probably expect more than a rehash of the same models and other stuff. and its Bioware we are talking about, a company that most players associate with quality production. Yes, they can reuse alot. yes the Dragon Age universe and future events have been written in some degree. But Dragon Age 1.5 wont cut it for most people, they want Dragon Age 2.0 and that may take more time then most people realize.

[Reaverwind]

nerdage wrote...

Honestly, all I'd want from DA2 is a new/more story, I know they said they wanted to improve the graphics for the next game but I'm not sure how much improvement there is to be had with the rest. That said I have no idea how much work goes into making any part of a game, but I should think that alot of the work that went into origins could be recycled for the next one.

Graphics is the last thing they need to work on - seriously. If they build the next DA on the same engine - it's a no-go for me.

[Domyk]

julian08 wrote...

I don't know if it has been officially confirmed, but from what I've heard DA2 will be released in early 2011, and the fact that the sequel is going to be released so soon worries me a bit. It smells too much like the infamous EA tactic of releasing a ton of uninventive sequels as quickly as possible until every last drop of charm, creativity and uniqueness the first game might have possessed is sucked out and the biggest differences between the games are the numbers behind the title.

But then again, maybe I'm overreacting. I mean, DA:O took years to finish, but that included the graphic engine and a completely new game world. So maybe one year is enough to create a worthy sequel. Plus, I don't know the first thing about DA2 yet, so I guess I really have no right to start complaining about it.

So let's just say I'm a little concerned, and I would just like to know if I'm the only one. I really trust Bioware, but I'm suspicious about another party that's involved. I think I would feel better if Bioware had just said: "It's done when it's done."
As long as it doesn't take twelve years

Awakenings is barely a month old.  yes it's probably too soon.  I expect a slew of DLC's for awakening first.  And less you have a link to this leaked information or confirmation from bioware it's pointless to speculate over some player posting on the web.

Modifié par Domyk, 12 avril 2010 - 07:13 .

[Marionetten]

The original game is a broken mess with no patch in sight. You tell me if it's too damn soon to be talking about a sequel.

[Gooblikon]

Has any game ever been released on a speculation date or the first 4 "official" release dates DA2 will be fine Bioware has everything under control EA is their ****

[Challseus]

OrlesianWardenCommander wrote...
 Worries me cause EA loves ruining there best games *cough battlefeild cough*

What's wrong with Battlefield? I'm having a blast playing that with friends

On topic, well, we don't know if that is what is coming in 2011. It could just be the next expansion. And if it is Dragon Age 2, we have no idea how long it's been in development. They technically could have started it back in March of 2009 when DA:O was supposed to come out.

*Shrug*

[Gebut]

Gooblikon wrote...

Has any game ever been released on a speculation date or the first 4 "official" release dates DA2 will be fine Bioware has everything under control EA is their ****

LOL, if EA was their ****, then we would have Dragon Effect. Commander Shepard finds a rift in time and is teleported to the Dragon Age universe along with Tali. Together they team up with the Gray Warden commander in fighting the new threat, the hordes of the Reaperspawns.

[Challseus]

imported_beer wrote...

HOWEVER, I am placing bets that this will be significantly shorter tha DAO. Who cares to take me up on that bet.

This.

As in, I agree with you, not placing a bet, lol.

[Wyndham711]

I believe Dragon Age 2 will be a considerably more streamlined and focused experience. Smaller in scale and scope. Hopefully it won't go as far as taking the road of ME2, but that possibility can't be completely ruled out either. Let's face it: simple action sells better than tactical roleplaying.

I still hope that other things besides money still bear some weight and my estimates will be proven wrong, since action games we already have aplenty, whereas the more thoughtful, tactical games seem to get ever rarer year by year. Then again, when it comes to Dragon Age, I'll take what I get.

[Sunjammer]

At the Builder's Event it we were informed that Dragon Age: Origins has two years DLC program which presumably takes us to the end of 2011 (hopefully ending on a bang to tide us over). I'm assuming that BioWare doesn't shorten this program due to the release date being pushed back, but since we were told this in July I think that unlikely.

The flyer in Awakenings is, logically, for the next expansion and not, as some suspect, for Dragon Age 2.  It took about a year to make the first one. It stands to reason it takes about a year to make the second one. Unless BioWare have two live teams working in parallel February 2011 sounds about right.

We are therefore unlikely to see Dragon Age 2 much before the end of 2012 and that's assuming it is really just an engine upgrade and new single player campaign (which presumably has already been sketched out) rather than, for example, adding multiplayer and the SW:TOR style multi-player conversations.

I certainly hope that we have another 2 or 3 years before Dragon Age 2 (and that when it comes it uses a very similar toolset) otherwise the already struggling modding community might as well give up and go back to NWN and NWN2 because at the current rate we may not have time to produce more than a module or two!

Usual disclaimers apply. Your milage may vary. Don't feed after midnight. Etc.

Modifié par Sunjammer, 12 avril 2010 - 09:06 .

[Brockololly]

imported_beer wrote...

I wish it gets officially announced.

I want to start talking inspiration and potential NPCs. Instead of having to circumvent the minefield.

ALSO, OP, development of a new IP takes a long time. They have their engine, their world, their mythos, and I'd suspect a new game would take less development time.

HOWEVER, I am placing bets that this will be significantly shorter tha DAO. Who cares to take me up on that bet.

Agreed- I'm guessing it might not be until E3 in early June that we really get any info on what the 2/1/2011 DA title is. The thing that makes me think it will be a sequel and not and expansion though is the info EA released earlier this year that included a handheld version for the 2/1/2011 title- I don't think many expansion packs would get a handheld version...

As far as betting on DA2 being shorter ...on one hand I'd like to think that given how Bioware has the engine, lore and overall foundations of the DA universe set that they would pull a Baldur's Gate 2 where the sequel is bigger and better than the original.

Yet Origins seemed like the last of a dying breed of huge, epic RPGs- there just aren't very many single player games that push 70+ hours, especially  ones that aren't sandbox games like Oblivion or Fallout 3. So yeah, sadly I 'd bet DA2 is shorter and "streamlined" like ME2- that doesn't have to be a bad thing, but if Awakening is any indication of the quality and direction they're taking DA, then I'll be way more hesitant on purchasing DA2

[the1npc]

This would be much to soon.

Dragon Age should not get a numbered sequil in 2011

another x-pac would be cool though.

[Harcken]

I hope it's not early 2011, yes, yes the Dragon Age team was done in May 2009, bla bla bla. The truth is RPGs aren't like FPS games where you can crank one out yearly, just giving the engine and weapon selection a slight update and tacking on a 4 hour campaign. The writers need time to craft a great story and exceptional dialogue, level design needs to be varied and detailed, the game should be lengthy (30+ hours imo for a direct sequel), the world needs a lot more voices, the animations need to be diverse and varied (with the different races, armor, and such), loot needs to be adequately placed, progression is key, and finally, on top of all that, the game needs a somewhat tactical and balanced gameplay system that provides for fun combat. Ah, how I so love a good RPG.

[julian08]

Wyndham711 wrote...

I believe Dragon Age 2 will be a considerably more streamlined and focused experience. Smaller in scale and scope. Hopefully it won't go as far as taking the road of ME2, but that possibility can't be completely ruled out either. Let's face it: simple action sells better than tactical roleplaying.

Well. . . I don't really see that happen. Mass Effect and Dragon Age are just two completely different pairs of shoes. Personally, I don't understand why so many people are kicking Bioware in the nuts for trying something new with Mass Effect 2. Some people are so agitated about that game that you could think it  had slept with their girlfriends and set their pets on fire while leaving obscene messages on their parents answering machine. It's not like Bioware abandoned the classical RPG, I mean they released Dragon Age barely six months ago, and it sold quite good from what I've heard. Mass Effect is simply a different series that takes some steps in another direction, but that doesn't mean every future Bioware game will be like it.

Ok, that was a little off topic, sorry about that

[CybAnt1]

I thought 2/2011 was too soon to be the direct sequel (DA 2).



However, people pointed out maybe they had been working on it longer than we realize.



Well, given the mess made with Awakening, I really hope it's not the sequel. If it is an expansion, it might be one with a better length/depth, and better polish (to get rid of the bugs), not so rushed. Maybe they could get the next one right. They could release some DlC in the meantime (hopefully something more substantive than FeastDay.)



If it is the sequel, I really suspect there might be one more expansion between now and then, but given what happened with Awakening, I'm wondering about its quality. Of course, they also might do no more expansions, and only do DlC in between now and the sequel. If they're doing nothing before the sequel, then I guess it is in the sequel various plot arcs might finally get resolved, since I doubt that will happen in DlC.



As always, we're wondering what happens next.