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[Ahzrei]

I think Awakening needed more time.





I also think it was time that the Dev's didn't have for practical development reasons that I'm not savvy with.







With the full-blown sequel, I think they will have the time they need to polish it at least as well as DA:O was polished. I don't foresee the same problems.



It also hasn't been announced exactly what the 2/2011 date is for. I might just be another expansion. They did say they weren't done with DA:O yet. Who knows?

[Gill Kaiser]

DA2 shouldn't come out until at least 2013.

[ElementBlot]

DA2 is too early... agreed with gill.

i say more expansion... there's still Orlais and Rivain and Antivan. Seriously, no more bad DLC, use the time like fallout did.

[BomimoDK]

i'm not worried. the whole Baldur's Gate series was released within 2.5 years.
i don't know if they overlap their projects or not. but it creates an illusion that these guys can work fast as **** AND make quality games.
"in bioware we trust"

Modifié par BomimoDK, 13 avril 2010 - 07:20 .

[yummysoap]

I gots me a feeling that 2011 thing is just about a next expansion pack.



If it's not... well, it's a little bit worrying, but from what I have heard (whether correct or not) Bioware were prepping up DA2 alongside development of DA:O. A lot of companies do that, so it is likely that DA2 has been in development longer than any of us are giving it credit for. Plus, as has been mentioned, it takes a long long time to develop a game engine from scratch; with DA2 the engine wiill already be in place and just in need of a few tweaks, so it wouldn't take nearly as long as the first DA did.



If EA even try and rush Dragon Age 2 I will personally burn all their offices down in a maddening fury.

[TheMadCat]

Depends on how long they've been working on it, how many people are on the project, how much funding has been given, exactly how "super hot" they plan on making it technically. BioWare is a big company, they could have had a team starting on this 2-01-11 project before Origins was even released. So no, I don't see any reason to view it as too soon.

[miltos33]

There aren't any publishers or developers who give exact dates for full sequels a year before release. They normally give time frames e.g. TBA 2011 or Q4 2012 etc. Awakening was announced as the 1st expansion which means that there is probably going to be a 2nd one. The one year development cycle for an RPG sequel would be ridiculously short even by EA standards.

[Loc'n'lol]

I hope you're right. I certainly wouldn't want this to be then end of DA1.

[Narelda]

I'd rather have an expansion that would use the characters we already have rather than making yet another awakening with new characters. Then it would be irrelevant if it's called a sequel or expansion. They have the engine ready, so I'm hoping the 2011 release will be much longer than Awakening considering they can just concentrate in content creation, like in BGII.

[Heererik]

Dragon Age is planned as a long running IP. A thing needed to keep interest is the constant feel that there's work being done on the game. BioWare does this by giving us DLC every now and then while they work towards the next big thing. (Awakening, DA2)

To keep everyone interested I believe it to be a MUST for them to deliver content on a steady pace. Simply because gamers nowadays are just spoiled. You may say "Omg but what about *insert gaming company* and their rush to get stuff released." but you, as a gamer still expect things to be released fast. Maybe not now, but you will in the near future. Spending ages on a game isn't a guarantee for quality, and makes a game cost more to make.

I'm sure BioWare doesn't release things that are half-done and will only release a product when they feel it's ready to be shown to the masses. In the end, shockingly enough. It's about money. not about your feelings, but about what's in your pockets. (It's the way humanity works sadly)

Modifié par Heererik, 13 avril 2010 - 02:57 .

[Brockololly]

miltos33 wrote...

There aren't any publishers or developers who give exact dates for full sequels a year before release. They normally give time frames e.g. TBA 2011 or Q4 2012 etc. Awakening was announced as the 1st expansion which means that there is probably going to be a 2nd one. The one year development cycle for an RPG sequel would be ridiculously short even by EA standards.

Well, I'd point to Epic announcing the other day that GEars of War 3 is coming out April 8, 2011- about a year before release. I think now publishers and devs will announce full sequels well in advance of the release date to build hype and get the recognition that there is a sequel coming out there. With expansions, you're really only marketing to those with the base game, so I would think they don't need to hype them quite as much.
I'm hoping for a 2nd expansion, but I'd have my money on the 2/1/2011 being a sequel...

[C9316]

Gebut wrote...

Story wise, im not so worried about the time frame with Dragon Age 2. I liked Awakenings story, but the expansion had way to many bugs and its a mystery that they still havnt fixed them yet with a patch.

So in other words, its mostly the execution I'm most worried about when thinking about future games/expansions in the Dragon Age universe. Its easy to blame EA, but its probably Bioware who were too optimistic with their time frame regarding the expansion. Lets hope they correct this with future titles, and most importantly, wake up regarding support of their current games before planing the next installments.

could you explain DA2's time frame for me because I'm currently thinking it would forward a century or two for another blight or another premature blight would begin in other words i'm really confused about it

[TheShadowWolf911]

you guys do realize its possible they were already working on it before Dragon Age: Origins was even released? or perhaps even complete?

if you work on a game and its Sequel at the same time, it wouldn't be surprising to see it released less then a year and a half after the original came out.

[Halkus]

It's fairly possible that the last expansion will be released on that date, along with news of Dragon Age 2, which could mean DA2 is coming perhaps later that year.



Overall I feel Dragon Age is Bioware doing NWN3 without paying for the D&D license, and Mass Effect is them doing KotOR without the Star Wars license... The game is pretty good, but the rules used are far from balanced. The game is very difficult, or very easy depending on what tactics you know about and how you've min/maxed things.



There will always be an element of that, and that's in my opinion part of the skill of playing... finding the best combination. But the Dragon Age rules need a big overhaul in order to bring them to a balanced state, and I don't believe that can be done without the rule changes that would have to come with Dragon Age 2.

[Gill Kaiser]

C9316 wrote...

Gebut wrote...

Story wise, im not so worried about the time frame with Dragon Age 2. I liked Awakenings story, but the expansion had way to many bugs and its a mystery that they still havnt fixed them yet with a patch.

So in other words, its mostly the execution I'm most worried about when thinking about future games/expansions in the Dragon Age universe. Its easy to blame EA, but its probably Bioware who were too optimistic with their time frame regarding the expansion. Lets hope they correct this with future titles, and most importantly, wake up regarding support of their current games before planing the next installments.

could you explain DA2's time frame for me because I'm currently thinking it would forward a century or two for another blight or another premature blight would begin in other words i'm really confused about it

That wouldn't really mesh too well with the franchise name. The Dragon Age has around 70 years left as of DA:O, after which the next Age will begin. It wouldn't make much sense to set a game 100 years after DA:O in the Spirit Age or whatever, then call it Dragon Age 2.

[Val Seleznyov]

I would hope that the 2-2011 date given alludes to an expansion pack, if only to continue the adventures of Valentin Cousland. I'm not quite ready to give up on my character just yet, and would like an ending with a little more spark than that of Awakening.



However, it didn't seem to take them that long to make Awakening.

[CybAnt1]

Overall I feel Dragon Age is Bioware doing NWN3 without paying for the D&D license, and Mass Effect is them doing KotOR without the Star Wars license... 

Yeah kind of funky all those force powers biotic abilities in KOTOR3 ME, isn't it ... whatever, I think they made the best decision in both cases. At least now they don't have to ask George Lucas' permission every time they come up with a new alien race, or ask Hasbro/WotC's permission to invent a new spell. Being forced to live under the thumb of someone else's IP sucks. 

[Vicious]

Well, DA was actually done in may 2009... And Awakenings would NOT recieve the same money/dev time as a full-fledged sequel would.



That gives them 2 years of dev time and EA money.





And yall should bet on DA2 being postponed a few times.





So I think the worries are unwarranted. Yes, Awakenings was buggy, which was inexcusable and smelt of rushed release, which is a damn shame... however despite it's bugs, I am glad to have not been subjected to another RtO fiasco.

It wouldn't make much sense to set a game 100 years after DA:O in the Spirit Age or whatever, then call it Dragon Age 2.

Baldur's Gate 2 DID NOT TAKE PLACE IN OR NEAR BALDUR'S GATE.



Just an FYI.

[Hollingdale]

**** the origins crew, gief nathaniel and justice.

[SOLID_EVEREST]

I think it might be another expansion, but this one will probably be bigger than Awakening. If anything, this might be the expansion pack to end the present Warden's story, and then the sequel will bring us up to a new age or area. A year will be the perfect amount of time to create a pretty decent expansion.



I mean the whole Morrigan issue was all in the Warden's hands which could be perfect for a final quest. I don't know, though if the the expansion should deal entirely with that situation since not everyone did the same thing; however, they could approach this like Awakening so...



I just hope it isn't another DLC scenario like the Warden's Tower, except set in Awakening... If that happened, I would be pissed.

[Brockololly]

I just don't see why they couldn't use DA2, a proper full fledged sequel, to resolve any loose ends for the Warden, mainly Morrigan. Blight or not, I think there is still plenty to explore with the Wardens before moving on to some other aspect of Thedas. I'd just prefer we get a full sequel for the Warden's last story, seeing as expansions won't have the same budget and level of polish as a full game.

[Brockololly]

*Edit: Double Post!

Modifié par Brockololly, 14 avril 2010 - 02:22 .

[Brockololly]

*edit: triple post!

Modifié par Brockololly, 14 avril 2010 - 02:18 .

[Vicious]

If DA2 takes place in Orlais, I'd bet on the next protagonist being a Chevalier.