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[PTPR]

Why isn't this thread gone yet?
(Wait, I just bumped it....)

[Onyx Jaguar]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Commander Shepard should not be restricted to sexual perception of the Current times.

[Sajuro]

I wonder how much he would like it if someone suggested both shepards get the same seduce options?

[PTPR]

Sajuro wrote...

I wonder how much he would like it if someone suggested both shepards get the same seduce options?

Male Shep would sound like a pervert.
Plus if you play Sheploo

[Sajuro]

PTPR wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

I wonder how much he would like it if someone suggested both shepards get the same seduce options?

Male Shep would sound like a pervert.
Plus if you play Sheploo

-interrogating mouse during Thane's loyalty mission-
Male Shep: tell me what I want, and I can... -saddles up to mouse- make it worth your while

[PTPR]

Sajuro wrote...

PTPR wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

I wonder how much he would like it if someone suggested both shepards get the same seduce options?

Male Shep would sound like a pervert.
Plus if you play Sheploo

-interrogating mouse during Thane's loyalty mission-
Male Shep: tell me what I want, and I can... -saddles up to mouse- make it worth your while

[Sajuro]

PTPR wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

PTPR wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

I wonder how much he would like it if someone suggested both shepards get the same seduce options?

Male Shep would sound like a pervert.
Plus if you play Sheploo

-interrogating mouse during Thane's loyalty mission-
Male Shep: tell me what I want, and I can... -saddles up to mouse- make it worth your while

Should I even say how he would interrogate a krogan?
five, five dollar footlong, eat fresh! and I ain't talkin' about subway

[kraidy1117]

Sajuro wrote...

PTPR wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

PTPR wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

I wonder how much he would like it if someone suggested both shepards get the same seduce options?

Male Shep would sound like a pervert.
Plus if you play Sheploo

-interrogating mouse during Thane's loyalty mission-
Male Shep: tell me what I want, and I can... -saddles up to mouse- make it worth your while

Should I even say how he would interrogate a krogan?
five, five dollar footlong, eat fresh! and I ain't talkin' about subway

[PTPR]

Sajuro wrote...

PTPR wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

-interrogating mouse during Thane's loyalty mission-
Male Shep: tell me what I want, and I can... -saddles up to mouse- make it worth your while

Should I even say how he would interrogate a krogan?
five, five dollar footlong, eat fresh! and I ain't talkin' about subway

You just want me to be scarred for the rest of my life, don't you?

[asaiasai]

Sajuro wrote...

I wonder how much he would like it if someone suggested both shepards get the same seduce options?

I think that is a great idea as i am an equal opportunity offender.

Asai

[Sajuro]

PTPR wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

PTPR wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

-interrogating mouse during Thane's loyalty mission-
Male Shep: tell me what I want, and I can... -saddles up to mouse- make it worth your while

Should I even say how he would interrogate a krogan?
five, five dollar footlong, eat fresh! and I ain't talkin' about subway

You just want me to be scarred for the rest of my life, don't you?

you've learned too much

[Sajuro]

asaiasai wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

I wonder how much he would like it if someone suggested both shepards get the same seduce options?

I think that is a great idea as i am an equal opportunity offender.

Asai

not sexism if you offend everyone

[FredThePhoenix]

Sajuro wrote...

PTPR wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

I wonder how much he would like it if someone suggested both shepards get the same seduce options?

Male Shep would sound like a pervert.
Plus if you play Sheploo

-interrogating mouse during Thane's loyalty mission-
Male Shep: tell me what I want, and I can... -saddles up to mouse- make it worth your while

LOL!

I vote for seduce options in ME3!

[The Grey Ranger]

You don't have a grenade launcher lady

[Nyx]

Busomjack wrote...

Just think if you were being interrogated, who would scare you more?  A male Shepard or a female Shepard?

On one hand there are general trends, but on the other, there are individuals who are the complete outliers, and defy the trend -- i.e Aria T'Loak (a "little" blue asari) and Mordin ("just" a salarian). At one point, when your limbs are blown off, bones are shattered, stunned with toxin, and made into a live trophy, you'd wish you took a little more precaution in estimating your opponents.

Shepard, regardless of their background, is the last person you'd want to mess with. They've earned their legendary, iconic recognition by proving that they can get the impossible tasks done incredibly well. Sometimes, this isn't immediately obvious, and the enemies know Shepard by name, yet other times, when there's a trail of dead bodies behind Shepard --- it's better not to second-guess the evidence.    

FredThePhoenix wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

PTPR wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

I wonder how much he would like it if someone suggested both shepards get the same seduce options?

Male Shep would sound like a pervert.

Plus if you play Sheploo

-interrogating mouse during Thane's loyalty mission-
Male Shep: tell me what I want, and I can... -saddles up to mouse- make it worth your while

LOL!

I vote for seduce options in ME3!

Yeah, I think MaleShep should showcase his moves. Who says that only women are allowed to be sexy?

[Blackveldt]

EDIT:  *Sigh*  I read the remainder of the thread and do apologize for bumping this topic.

Busomjack wrote...

I was thinking, a lot of these renegade dialogue scenes that involve Shepard intimidating people and showing physical violence work effectively because Shepard is a physically imposing male. 
When we see the exact same reaction from various NPCs while controlling a female Shepard, it just comes across as a bit out of place and unrealistic.  Just how intimdiating can a rather squat looking woman be?
...

This is where I stopped reading.  You are projecting your own bias and perceptions, rendering your point fallacious and thereby moot, yet stating [said perceptions] as fact.  Shepard as intimidating on the basis of physical presence or gender alone is an assumption on your part (and a poor one at that).  However, humoring this rather puerile line of thought, I will, for the moment, temporarily accept this skewed viewpoint as potentially valid (which is absolutely ridiculous if you consider all types of validity).  At which point, I refer you to the rather simple causation fallacy, i.e., physical presence, etc, does not cause intimidation.

However, further humoring you:

1)  Physically imposing - please cite examples where an NPC acknowledges a physical trait as imposing.  Such examples would include mention of the human body in some form.  Do not confuse skill with biology.

Note:  If Shepard is intimidating due to physical presentation (as significant), then Shepard has no need for dialogue, rendering your opening thesis statement as contradictory and invalid.

2)  Imposing based on gender (male) - please cite examples where an NPC acknowledges the gender of the human species as a threat, "[giving] the same exact reaction" regardless of said gender.

However, going back to your need to project your own opinion/perceptions as fact, I emphasize the significance of [the role of] double standards and social stigmas / cultural influence--all of which are attached to both genders in relation to behavior.  These in turn, may affect our perceptions.  To cite a peer-reviewed resource and example, both health-care and non-health-care professionals significantly rate pain as more acceptable for females than males (Siu Man, L. and Chung, J, 2007).  In fact, higher levels of gender male role stress is positively correlated with anti-feminist attitudes (Holbrook, A. M. and Coll, B. M., 2009).  Emotional expressiveness, subordination to women and situations of intellectual inferiority, on the other hand, correlated with conservative attitudes towards women.  To put it shortly, this signifies:  "taboos against emotional expressiveness, fears around subordination to women, and the need to appear
intellectually superior, as these domains [correlate] with attitudes toward women and maladaptive coping."  Such APA articles/journals are just among thousands delineating similar and statistically significant results.

In any case, we may not "feel" the impact of societal norms and whatnot, but we cannot deny being tainted by them in some form or another, whether we're aware of it or not (applied to both genders).

In addition, the performances of the respective male and female Shepard(s) (Meer/Hale) are so different that comparing them as if they are precisely the same was perhaps your first mistake; it presents the situation as not only lacking face validity (or any validity for that matter), but reliability as well and riddled with confounding variables were you to actually attempt a serious analytical overview.

Modifié par Blackveldt, 13 avril 2010 - 05:47 .

[Nightwriter]

No, no, blackveldt, we've all already reached the conclusion he's simply too ridiculous to respond to.

We're now all posting things to amuse ourselves and laugh at his expense. See:





^ This is me.

[kraidy1117]

Nightwriter wrote...

No, no, blackveldt, we've all already reached the conclusion he's simply too ridiculous to respond to.

We're now all posting things to amuse ourselves and laugh at his expense. See:





^ This is me.

[Blackveldt]

Yes :/ Hence, my edit. I am unfamiliar with the local forum trolls and haven't really seen BusomJack around. Usually because I only click on the threads that interest me and aren't absolutely ridiculous. Again, *sigh*

[Nightwriter]

Blackveldt wrote...

Yes :/ Hence, my edit. I am unfamiliar with the local forum trolls and haven't really seen BusomJack around. Usually because I only click on the threads that interest me and aren't absolutely ridiculous. Again, *sigh*

That is what your friendly troll spotters are for!

[Ray Joel Oh]

Don't bump dumb threads.

/contradiction

[Massadonious1]

Busomjack still gets bites?



People need to nerd off in the forums more often.

[asaiasai]

Sajuro wrote...

asaiasai wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

I wonder how much he would like it if someone suggested both shepards get the same seduce options?

I think that is a great idea as i am an equal opportunity offender.

Asai

not sexism if you offend everyone

Sweeeeeeeeet!

Asai

[Destructo-Bot]

This is the same guy that thinks adult women can't bench more than 40lbs. So no, he does not have any experience with actual adult women.

But, since I'm inclined to believe nobody is actually as foolish as BusomJack makes himself out to be, he is clearly trolling. And he uses the same theme over and over; women as the inferior sex.

That ban probably should have lasted a whole lot longer. There is enough junk on the forum without obvious trolls taking up space.

Modifié par Destructo-Bot, 13 avril 2010 - 07:17 .

[Chuvvy]

Then only thing that made no sense to me because of male/female difference was in ME1. When you lifted Kaiden on to your shoulder. That's difficult for a man to do, it'd be damn near impossible for a woman to, and not just because of strength. Men are bigger then women it'd be incredible awkward for a women to carry a man on her shoulder. Just because of weight distribution.

Also why can't a male shepard seduce anyone?



Oh yeah. That's not creepy.

Modifié par Slidell505, 13 avril 2010 - 07:29 .