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They should replace female Shepard's renegade dialogue.


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Nightwriter wrote...

BusomJack, I speak for all women when I say none of us have ever bedded you. Conscious. I've consulted the Girl Collective and received an answer of NO DATA AVAILABLE.


...I love you, and wish to bear your children.

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Steel Dancer wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

BusomJack, I speak for all women when I say none of us have ever bedded you. Conscious. I've consulted the Girl Collective and received an answer of NO DATA AVAILABLE.


...I love you, and wish to bear your children.


:P

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Alright, now that things have calmed down a bit here, let me comment on some of the objections which have been brought up.



Let me say that female Shepard may very well be skilled in everything but the fact remains that she is a woman and that that will cause those around her to pre-judge and possibly underestimate her. It's not that I am sexist, it's just that we should expect sexism from people, especially aliens that come from patriarchal societies such as Batarians and Turians.

Female Shepard may be "girl tough" but it's difficult to take a woman head butting a Krogan very seriously. There are just some very prevalent limits to human strength which are more pronounced amongst the female gender, it's simple biology.



Most women realize they're not as physically strong as men and therefore utilize their natural talents of seduction to get their way. It's not as if this isn't already seen in the game. Aria mentions turning Patriarch's men against him with the art of seduction, so why couldn't a female Shepard do the same thing?

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I've noticed in troll threads that whenever someone "grabs popcorn" the thread almost immediately settles down and the troll in question dissappears for a long period of time. Popcorn must be an anti-repellant.

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>Busomjack bumping his own troll thread

0/10, same material, try harder next time. I'm disappointed in you, you're usually a quality troll. But it's been all copypasta in the main forum, and it's getting stale.

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*shrug* I kinda like my femshep to be kicking-ass with crazy flexibility and speed (Kasumi style) rather than gunning for seduction or brute force.



Even then, it just cost a butt-ton of resources game development wise, so I leave it up to my imagination, but I still head-butt the krogan anyways just to be a bad-ass.



I'm female, and I don't not look physically strong, but damn I can outrun a lot of guys.

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Oh no, not this **** again. Look, I necroed the tali vs. miranda thread, post there.

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Shepard is a cyborg. And you are a troll.

Let me clarify. Shepard is a Genetically Enhanced, Elite Special-Forces Cyborg Soldier. Why didn't you start a thread about how ManShep shouldn't be able to headbutt a Krogan? The only threads you start are about how women are portrayed as TOO able and they should be "taken down a notch".

Nope, nothing sexist here.

Modifié par Destructo-Bot, 30 avril 2010 - 07:27 .


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Shepard is a cyborg but her modifications are not significant enough that she has any major improvements in strength, agility or endurance. Keep in mind that Miranda mentioned the Illusive Man wanting to bring Shepard back exactly how he was. Cybernetics were no doubt kept at a minimum.



The reason why I put an emphasis on women is because it's a well known scientific fact that women are not as physically capable as men. Therefore I don't think it feasible for everyone in the game to find a female Shepard as threatening as a male Shepard.



Sure Shepard is armed, but so are many of her adversaries. That negates the issue.

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When TIM asked Shepard how he felt, he answered that he "noticed some improvements."

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This thread sucks however this seems appropriate



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bobobo878 wrote...

When TIM asked Shepard how he felt, he answered that he "noticed some improvements."


We're talking about public perception.  The cybernetic augmentations are subtle enough on Shepard that all anyone sees are a few scars.  Even if female Shepard is physically able, most would not be able to tell just looking at her and thus would not find her intimidating.

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Anyone who walks around with ****ing guns attached to their back is intimidating

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Why are you guys bumping a clearly sexist thread? Why?

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Nivenus wrote...

Why are you guys bumping a clearly sexist thread? Why?


Its not really bumping if you post right after they post

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Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Anyone who walks around with ****ing guns attached to their back is intimidating


Not when the other guys are carying guns themselves.

Modifié par Busomjack, 30 avril 2010 - 07:56 .


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You intentionally edited your post to make it sound sexist. I read the original and the edited and that is obviously what you did.

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Onyx Jaguar wrote...

You intentionally edited your post to make it sound sexist. I read the original and the edited and that is obviously what you did.


Actually I edited it to make it less confusing.

I originally wrote "Not when they're carying guns themselves"

I changed it to include "other guys" so you'd know who I'm talking about.

Modifié par Busomjack, 30 avril 2010 - 08:02 .


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Busomjack wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

When TIM asked Shepard how he felt, he answered that he "noticed some improvements."


We're talking about public perception.  The cybernetic augmentations are subtle enough on Shepard that all anyone sees are a few scars.  Even if female Shepard is physically able, most would not be able to tell just looking at her and thus would not find her intimidating.

It doesn't matter what she looks like, when she headbutts the Krogan and steps on Mouse's neck they feel the force.

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bobobo878 wrote...

Busomjack wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

When TIM asked Shepard how he felt, he answered that he "noticed some improvements."


We're talking about public perception.  The cybernetic augmentations are subtle enough on Shepard that all anyone sees are a few scars.  Even if female Shepard is physically able, most would not be able to tell just looking at her and thus would not find her intimidating.

It doesn't matter what she looks like, when she headbutts the Krogan and steps on Mouse's neck they feel the force.


That involves actual physical action, that is different than the dialogue scenarios which are availble for both of those scenes you mentioned should you choose not to do the quick time event.
In any case, headbutting a Krogan seems far fetched for a male Shepard but especially so for a female Shepard.  Upgrade or not.

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Whoops, forgot my image earlier...

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It's been over two weeks. Seriously, let it die.