Er JeanLuc, I'm on your side, but you cannot objectively prove "better developed" You may be able to prove a character had more lines, but not better development. It can't be measured.
Differences between the ME1 and ME2 companions
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#52
Posté 12 avril 2010 - 10:38
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Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...
JeanLuc761 wrote...
In all honesty, I'd like to see you try.
But, we both know that won't end well for anyone.
The only new "development" made in Tali and Garrus character it is revealed they have the hots for Shepard, unless you count Garrus talking smut rather than how he hates red tape.
Neither are in a situation that conflicts with what was established in ME1. Heck Garrus loyalty mission is basically the same as the Dr.Hart mission in ME1.
Like I said, with them its romance or nada.
Garrus and Tali had only 4-5 dialog parts in ME. Liara has only three if you don't romance her. Nice job at failing Dink.
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Posté 12 avril 2010 - 10:39
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The romance is something, but it's a rather minor addition relative to the real development. Tali's loyalty mission alone is looking to be one of the most important missions in the entire game and it gives huge insight into the quarian race and Tali's character.Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...
JeanLuc761 wrote...
In all honesty, I'd like to see you try.
But, we both know that won't end well for anyone.
The only new "development" made in Tali and Garrus character it is revealed they have the hots for Shepard, unless you count Garrus talking smut rather than how he hates red tape.
Neither are in a situation that conflicts with what was established in ME1. Heck Garrus loyalty mission is basically the same as the Dr.Hart mission in ME1.
Like I said, with them its romance or nada.
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Posté 12 avril 2010 - 10:39
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kraidy1117 wrote...
How and the flink am I a troll? Do you know what a troll is Dink?
"A troll a person who likes and it's there intention to get a rise out of people."
Every post you do Dink does that. You are a troll, do I realy need to go get those qoutes from the past Dink, do you realy want me to embrass you? I can and I will if you don't stop this ****. Unlike some of the members here I use the search feature and I will get those qoutes.
Actually, you are a presumtuous little troll.
Who exactly was my post trying to get a rise out of?
Youre definition of trolling is "someone with a strong opinion". Its funny because, by diving on my every post and claiming its trolling, thats exactly what you are doing. You fit your own definition perfecty. I dont know if youre aware of this, but Im well within my rights to criticise ME2 here. I bought the game, Im more than entitled to tell Bioware what a poor job I think they did. If you dont like it, ignore it, instead of resorting to hypocritical trolling.
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Posté 12 avril 2010 - 10:40
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ratzerman wrote...
Seriously.... what's the point? The ME1 fans are the minority, we'll always be the minority. I could go copy and paste my reasons from the dozens of other threads just like this that have come and gone, but it doesn't matter. I just wish a pro-ME1 thread could exist for more than a page before getting the Darth and Kraidy show.GodWood wrote...
2 pages in and still no one has said how the ME1 characters were deeper...
Aww do I make the liara fans mad? Well boo hoo. ME2 was a better game that had better characters. Legion and mordin where better then all of the ME characters and that's only two characters from ME2.
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Posté 12 avril 2010 - 10:41
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kraidy1117 wrote...
Garrus and Tali had only 4-5 dialog parts in ME. Liara has only three if you don't romance her. Nice job at failing Dink.
Nice job at failing, because BOTH of those are more than what you get out of them in ME2. You get TWO dialogues out of Tali and Garrus in ME2. Nice job at failing and trolling kraidy.
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Posté 12 avril 2010 - 10:41
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That's it, i will be back later after I get all the past qoutes made from Dink to show how much of a troll this guy is.
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Posté 12 avril 2010 - 10:41
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I like some ME1 squadmates (Liara and Wrex) and some ME2 characters, too (Miranda, Samara, Kasumi)
I'd like to see that.
Tali and Garrus are the most boring characters in ME2 (if you don't romance them). 2 dialogues?
There is no character development.
JeanLuc761 wrote...
My real issue is that I can prove, objectively, that Garrus and Tali are better developed characters than anyone else from Mass Effect 1.
I'd like to see that.
Tali and Garrus are the most boring characters in ME2 (if you don't romance them). 2 dialogues?
There is no character development.
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Posté 12 avril 2010 - 10:42
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Why oh why do people keep thinking that the recruitment and loyalty missions don't qualify as "dialogues" for these characters?Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...
kraidy1117 wrote...
Garrus and Tali had only 4-5 dialog parts in ME. Liara has only three if you don't romance her. Nice job at failing Dink.
Nice job at failing, because BOTH of those are more than what you get out of them in ME2. You get TWO dialogues out of Tali and Garrus in ME2. Nice job at failing and trolling kraidy.
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Posté 12 avril 2010 - 10:42
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Seriously. You have to be biased as hell to think there is NO character development. I like you Barquiel, but sometimes, come on.Barquiel wrote...
There is no character development.
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Posté 12 avril 2010 - 10:42
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kraidy1117 wrote...
That's it, i will be back later after I get all the past qoutes made from Dink to show how much of a troll this guy is.
You really are pathetic kraidy. Quote mining to try and prove a point? Smells like trolling to me. Id mine some of your own quotes, but Im not that desperate.
#63
Posté 12 avril 2010 - 10:44
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JeanLuc761 wrote...
Why oh why do people keep thinking that the recruitment and loyalty missions don't qualify as "dialogues" for these characters?Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...
kraidy1117 wrote...
Garrus and Tali had only 4-5 dialog parts in ME. Liara has only three if you don't romance her. Nice job at failing Dink.
Nice job at failing, because BOTH of those are more than what you get out of them in ME2. You get TWO dialogues out of Tali and Garrus in ME2. Nice job at failing and trolling kraidy.
Perhaps because you dont count the ME1 characters huge amounts of dialogue in their recruitment and plot sensitive or side mission related content?
Liara has plenty of unique dialogue on Noveria. I see that gets glossed over.
Besides, most of the dialogue is sparingly sprinkled throughout combat sections in almost all loyalty missions.
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Posté 12 avril 2010 - 10:44
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My memory is better
http://social.biowar...ndex/1875113/22
specifically
http://social.biowar...index/1875113/7
http://social.biowar...ndex/1875113/22
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http://social.biowar...index/1875113/7
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Posté 12 avril 2010 - 10:46
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*points to sig* Miranda's my favorite squaddie. That doesn't mean she's better than Tali or Liara or whoever. It means she's my favorite. It's impossible for any of us to be objective about this. And you can't "prove" which team is better. All you can do is make a better or worse argument.
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Posté 12 avril 2010 - 10:47
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Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...
JeanLuc761 wrote...
Why oh why do people keep thinking that the recruitment and loyalty missions don't qualify as "dialogues" for these characters?Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...
kraidy1117 wrote...
Garrus and Tali had only 4-5 dialog parts in ME. Liara has only three if you don't romance her. Nice job at failing Dink.
Nice job at failing, because BOTH of those are more than what you get out of them in ME2. You get TWO dialogues out of Tali and Garrus in ME2. Nice job at failing and trolling kraidy.
Perhaps because you dont count the ME1 characters huge amounts of dialogue in their recruitment and plot sensitive or side mission related content?
Liara has plenty of unique dialogue on Noveria. I see that gets glossed over.
Besides, most of the dialogue is sparingly sprinkled throughout combat sections in almost all loyalty missions.
She has about three pieces of unique dialogue
"My mothers here!?!"
"Why are you doing this mother?"
"NOOO Mother!"
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Posté 12 avril 2010 - 10:47
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I agree with OP.
It's not like I don't like ME2 characters (I DO LIKE MOST OF THEM A LOT), but ME2 lacks both squad interraction and decent dialogue. Hell, I didn't learn anything new about Garrus except for his flexibility, same goes to Tali - a step back in the character development IMO. Loyality missions are nice touch, but we haven't learn about character in some of them (Jacob, Mordin, Zaeed) it's all about someone else who is somehow connected to the character.
So, yeah, in order to appeal to mainstream audience BioWare decided to lessen the quality of its characters personalization.
EDIT: and Wrex, even cameo'd is a way cooler than most ME2 guys brought together. :-P
It's not like I don't like ME2 characters (I DO LIKE MOST OF THEM A LOT), but ME2 lacks both squad interraction and decent dialogue. Hell, I didn't learn anything new about Garrus except for his flexibility, same goes to Tali - a step back in the character development IMO. Loyality missions are nice touch, but we haven't learn about character in some of them (Jacob, Mordin, Zaeed) it's all about someone else who is somehow connected to the character.
So, yeah, in order to appeal to mainstream audience BioWare decided to lessen the quality of its characters personalization.
EDIT: and Wrex, even cameo'd is a way cooler than most ME2 guys brought together. :-P
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Collider wrote...
This thread:
Hands down, this wins the internet.
Some of us prefer the ME2 squad, some the ME1 squad. How do you expect to resolve that one?
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I wish more people would understand this.jtav wrote...
*points to sig* Miranda's my favorite squaddie. That doesn't mean she's better than Tali or Liara or whoever. It means she's my favorite. It's impossible for any of us to be objective about this. And you can't "prove" which team is better. All you can do is make a better or worse argument.
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Nope. Not mad at all. Just explaining my original post. But thanks for the "boo hoo." I could tell that came from the heart.kraidy1117 wrote...
Aww do I make the liara fans mad? Well boo hoo. ME2 was a better game that had better characters. Legion and mordin where better then all of the ME characters and that's only two characters from ME2.
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OverlordNexas wrote...
She has about three pieces of unique dialogue
"My mothers here!?!"
"Why are you doing this mother?"
"NOOO Mother!"
Nice. Deliberately exaggerating a point. That doesnt at all make your argument weaker.
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The Uncanny wrote...
Collider wrote...
This thread:
Hands down, this wins the internet.
Some of us prefer the ME2 squad, some the ME1 squad. How do you expect to resolve that one?
Or why would resolving it matter? hmm
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Posté 12 avril 2010 - 10:49
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I've already explained in other threads that the ME2 characters feel less developed b/c they don't really talk to you after their loyalty missions and you can go 22 game play hrs with out even talking to them (i.e., it was poorly paced). This has nothing to do with the amount of dialog.
They also rarely commented on individual missions, or had much to say during them. Most never commented on the big Collector mission.
The ME1 pacing and set-up felt more organic and this is what gives, in my mind, the idea that these characters were better developed. It has nothing to do with the individual characters in ME2, just the execution of the whole thing.
Oh, and the fact that all the ME2 squad mates can die and might not be in ME3 kind of hinders my attachment to them.
They also rarely commented on individual missions, or had much to say during them. Most never commented on the big Collector mission.
The ME1 pacing and set-up felt more organic and this is what gives, in my mind, the idea that these characters were better developed. It has nothing to do with the individual characters in ME2, just the execution of the whole thing.
Oh, and the fact that all the ME2 squad mates can die and might not be in ME3 kind of hinders my attachment to them.
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Posté 12 avril 2010 - 10:50
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From the "feel" of ME1 vs ME2
"ME2s focus on shooter gameplay and cinematic conversations cant override my own view that in all the import areas, I consider ME1 the far superior game.
By comparison to ME1, ME2 was a ****** and mediocre shooter title."
"Followng your stupidity, you completely failed to comprehend my argument and like all ther other butthurtees around here, resorted to trying to dismiss as "hes pissed because Liara aint a squadmate".
"Its funny that, because I have her in my sig, you chose to ignore my original statement which as someone pointed out, was about the FEEL of ME2.
Its clear you cant contest opinion, but are too much of a fanboy yourself to let the criticism go unchecked, and resort to ridiculous crud like this to try and contest it."
"Oh lookie, a fanboy circle jerk. Arent you guys just the most adorable little love in Ive seen the side of any group of butt kissers."
"What point? What argument? All I had to respond to was the arrogant assumptions of a deluded roleplaying forum poster.
Its rich you accuse me of adding nothing to the discussion, when all you did was type "Here are my thoughts on how ME3 will go down, and if you dont like it, leave".
Those who live in glass houses or post on forums under a ridiculous fictional character persona shouldnt throw stones or make accusations of not deconstructing an argument.
In short: youre a whiny, deluded hypocrite.
Honestly guys, all of this because ME2 got criticised. You expecting Bioware to mail you flowers, despite all your constant hate and trolling of ME1? (oh the irony)"
"I could live with that, though these bozos wouldnt have you believe it."
From the old forums (posted from Ecael awhile ago)
http://social.biowar...4813/88#1231864
"Yes, thats right Liara, my Shepard really gives a **** about his mission when youve just poured your heart out telling him how you put yourself through hell, and beat yourself up after emerging alive, and all for him. He totally wouldnt want to comfort you in a more personal and meaningful way."
http://meforums.biow...15458&forum=144
"Didnt you know? The ME2 love interests are far more "compelling", and so your Shepard will probably cheat on the ME1 love interest.
I will no doubt feel "compelled" to smash them in the face with a shovel. But Shepard cheat on Liara in my main playthrough? Nah."
http://social.biowar...341/229#1723108
"I demand paragon interrupt to have Shepard strip down to his boxers and try and break it up, or Im not buying it."
http://meforums.biow...15223&forum=144
"You know its kind of a common theme in certain sci-fi that "the aliens" arent really any different from us when you get down to what fundamentally makes a person. Its still two people who love eachother."
http://social.biowar...5341/26#1385640
"Yeah, I pity the players who had Shepard choose an ME2 LI. They dont get anything remotely like that wonderful scene in ME1. "
http://social.biowar...635278/3#642061
"Oh yes indeedy am I making my Shepard stay loyal to Liara, no matter how small a role she might play."
http:/forums.bioware.com/my_account/viewprofile.html/forum/1/topic/103/index/689673/6#691924
"Hate on Liara? Why would I want to do that? Id much rather continue to hate on this new band of unimpressive posers who irritate me before the game is even started."
http://meforums.biow...&forum=144&sp=0
"Not only was she my romance choice, she played a pretty big role in the main plot. To have her return in anything less than a full team mate for the whole game will be a massive let down."
http://meforums.biow...orum=144&sp=270
"Just an overwhelming wave of disappointment to know that no matter how well made ME2 is (and it truly looks to be well made) its now already failed as a sequel in my eyes.
For what reason? Since I was right to suspect the romances are back seaters..."
http://social.biowar...341/230#1723376
"At least Liara comes to comfort Shepard after the council screws him over, and you get one of the most sweet "almost kiss" moments ever."
http://meforums.biow...forum=144&sp=30
"I think she is "pretty". Saying she is "attractive" is meaningless to someone like me, who finds her positively "unattractive".
Its no different to folks saying Liara is "cute", while I think she is extremely attractive and beautiful."
http://meforums.biow...forum=144&sp=15
"Actually, scratch that. Even the most emotionally engaging space turnip cant turn my Shepards head away from Liara."
http://meforums.biow...rum=144&sp=1305
"Quote: Posted 12/16/09 00:11 (GMT) by ratzerman
How 'bout that Liara? Pretty hot, right?
.... JEEEZUS! yeah"
http://meforums.biow...98216&forum=144
"However I have to admit, if Im prepared to accept a race of giant machines wiping out advanced life in the galaxy every few millennia, I have to accept the human desire to go into outer space and mate with aliens. Which I have to point out, in Liaras case is something my Shepard didnt turn down (which by extension probably means I wouldnt in the same situation. Im as bad as Zapp Brannigan!). "
http://meforums.biow...80893&forum=144
"They certainly have my trust that they will handle it properly.
As for the benefit, I think its entirely down to personal preference on if you think it adds to the story. Unless Bioware have some sort of plan in place for Shepard and his/her romance choice to start breeding minions...."
http://meforums.biow...orum=144.&sp=30
"I imagined Shepard as inexperienced in sex and relationships anyway (due to a life as an orphan struggling to survive on Earth, and then straight into a military career) and it was Liara holding him back."
http://meforums.biow...forum=144&sp=15
"My main playthrough this simply will not be a concern for me. Im not interested in what the ME2 LIs offer. I didnt romance Liara in ME1 for one brief shot of backside, and (so quick I missed it) the fabled "side-boob". I did it because I felt it made Shepard seem a more real character, instead of the cardboard cut-out "saviour of the galaxy"."
http://meforums.biow...orum=144.&sp=15
"I think, as Shepard says to Liara earlier in the romance, you cant control these things, only get swept away with them. I figure Liara decided there was no point waiting and trying to control it. She just had to let go and express her true feelings rather than wait around and ruin it."
http://social.biowar...46641/3#1349324
"How on earth do you "cheat" or "stay loyal" if there is absolutely no romance in ME2 to stay loyal to/cheat on? It was complete garbage. The "troubled second act" of the romance amounted to an appearance on the Normandy at the start, a holo/photo on the desk, and an awkward and cut off kiss on Illium. Bioware actually needs to offer up some real content for any of this stuff to make sense IMO. At the moment there is no "second act" for Liara and Shepard."
http:/social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/105/index/1653313/3#1654614
"Yeah, thankfully many have hit the nail on the head already: Though you wouldnt know it from her utterly crap ME2 role that was a complete embarrassment, Liara is the most important character in the trilogy other than Shepard. Far more important than Tali easily. The only reason Tali has even been suggested is because of her horde of fanboys, but face facts, she isnt that important."
http://social.biowar...4813/78#1193284
"Yeah, I think jlb already knows I like her cuddle Liaras holo pic, but its worth saying here is well.
They should have given you the option to interact with it after the suicide mission like that. The fish die and the space hamster plays a miniature giant space violin, and Shepard quietly sobs at the poorly executed Liara cameo s/he had to endure."
http://social.biowar...4123/46#1195172
"Yeah, by then LIaras ****ty cameo role had already tainted my "emotional investment" in the entire game beyond repair. It has its nice side to it, but by then I was just too cynical and bitter about the whole game, and could only muster a sarcastic "well, at leat they gave us THAT!""
http://social.biowar...66886/1#1167149
"Just as you cannot stop Shepard from dying, you cannot stop Liara from saving Shepards life.
Deal with it Liara haters."
Judging by this, you are a troll and hate anyone who likes ME2 and you are pissed off because a blue allien was not in ME2.
"ME2s focus on shooter gameplay and cinematic conversations cant override my own view that in all the import areas, I consider ME1 the far superior game.
By comparison to ME1, ME2 was a ****** and mediocre shooter title."
"Followng your stupidity, you completely failed to comprehend my argument and like all ther other butthurtees around here, resorted to trying to dismiss as "hes pissed because Liara aint a squadmate".
"Its funny that, because I have her in my sig, you chose to ignore my original statement which as someone pointed out, was about the FEEL of ME2.
Its clear you cant contest opinion, but are too much of a fanboy yourself to let the criticism go unchecked, and resort to ridiculous crud like this to try and contest it."
"Oh lookie, a fanboy circle jerk. Arent you guys just the most adorable little love in Ive seen the side of any group of butt kissers."
"What point? What argument? All I had to respond to was the arrogant assumptions of a deluded roleplaying forum poster.
Its rich you accuse me of adding nothing to the discussion, when all you did was type "Here are my thoughts on how ME3 will go down, and if you dont like it, leave".
Those who live in glass houses or post on forums under a ridiculous fictional character persona shouldnt throw stones or make accusations of not deconstructing an argument.
In short: youre a whiny, deluded hypocrite.
Honestly guys, all of this because ME2 got criticised. You expecting Bioware to mail you flowers, despite all your constant hate and trolling of ME1? (oh the irony)"
"I could live with that, though these bozos wouldnt have you believe it."
From the old forums (posted from Ecael awhile ago)
http://social.biowar...4813/88#1231864
"Yes, thats right Liara, my Shepard really gives a **** about his mission when youve just poured your heart out telling him how you put yourself through hell, and beat yourself up after emerging alive, and all for him. He totally wouldnt want to comfort you in a more personal and meaningful way."
http://meforums.biow...15458&forum=144
"Didnt you know? The ME2 love interests are far more "compelling", and so your Shepard will probably cheat on the ME1 love interest.
I will no doubt feel "compelled" to smash them in the face with a shovel. But Shepard cheat on Liara in my main playthrough? Nah."
http://social.biowar...341/229#1723108
"I demand paragon interrupt to have Shepard strip down to his boxers and try and break it up, or Im not buying it."
http://meforums.biow...15223&forum=144
"You know its kind of a common theme in certain sci-fi that "the aliens" arent really any different from us when you get down to what fundamentally makes a person. Its still two people who love eachother."
http://social.biowar...5341/26#1385640
"Yeah, I pity the players who had Shepard choose an ME2 LI. They dont get anything remotely like that wonderful scene in ME1. "
http://social.biowar...635278/3#642061
"Oh yes indeedy am I making my Shepard stay loyal to Liara, no matter how small a role she might play."
http:/forums.bioware.com/my_account/viewprofile.html/forum/1/topic/103/index/689673/6#691924
"Hate on Liara? Why would I want to do that? Id much rather continue to hate on this new band of unimpressive posers who irritate me before the game is even started."
http://meforums.biow...&forum=144&sp=0
"Not only was she my romance choice, she played a pretty big role in the main plot. To have her return in anything less than a full team mate for the whole game will be a massive let down."
http://meforums.biow...orum=144&sp=270
"Just an overwhelming wave of disappointment to know that no matter how well made ME2 is (and it truly looks to be well made) its now already failed as a sequel in my eyes.
For what reason? Since I was right to suspect the romances are back seaters..."
http://social.biowar...341/230#1723376
"At least Liara comes to comfort Shepard after the council screws him over, and you get one of the most sweet "almost kiss" moments ever."
http://meforums.biow...forum=144&sp=30
"I think she is "pretty". Saying she is "attractive" is meaningless to someone like me, who finds her positively "unattractive".
Its no different to folks saying Liara is "cute", while I think she is extremely attractive and beautiful."
http://meforums.biow...forum=144&sp=15
"Actually, scratch that. Even the most emotionally engaging space turnip cant turn my Shepards head away from Liara."
http://meforums.biow...rum=144&sp=1305
"Quote: Posted 12/16/09 00:11 (GMT) by ratzerman
How 'bout that Liara? Pretty hot, right?
.... JEEEZUS! yeah"
http://meforums.biow...98216&forum=144
"However I have to admit, if Im prepared to accept a race of giant machines wiping out advanced life in the galaxy every few millennia, I have to accept the human desire to go into outer space and mate with aliens. Which I have to point out, in Liaras case is something my Shepard didnt turn down (which by extension probably means I wouldnt in the same situation. Im as bad as Zapp Brannigan!). "
http://meforums.biow...80893&forum=144
"They certainly have my trust that they will handle it properly.
As for the benefit, I think its entirely down to personal preference on if you think it adds to the story. Unless Bioware have some sort of plan in place for Shepard and his/her romance choice to start breeding minions...."
http://meforums.biow...orum=144.&sp=30
"I imagined Shepard as inexperienced in sex and relationships anyway (due to a life as an orphan struggling to survive on Earth, and then straight into a military career) and it was Liara holding him back."
http://meforums.biow...forum=144&sp=15
"My main playthrough this simply will not be a concern for me. Im not interested in what the ME2 LIs offer. I didnt romance Liara in ME1 for one brief shot of backside, and (so quick I missed it) the fabled "side-boob". I did it because I felt it made Shepard seem a more real character, instead of the cardboard cut-out "saviour of the galaxy"."
http://meforums.biow...orum=144.&sp=15
"I think, as Shepard says to Liara earlier in the romance, you cant control these things, only get swept away with them. I figure Liara decided there was no point waiting and trying to control it. She just had to let go and express her true feelings rather than wait around and ruin it."
http://social.biowar...46641/3#1349324
"How on earth do you "cheat" or "stay loyal" if there is absolutely no romance in ME2 to stay loyal to/cheat on? It was complete garbage. The "troubled second act" of the romance amounted to an appearance on the Normandy at the start, a holo/photo on the desk, and an awkward and cut off kiss on Illium. Bioware actually needs to offer up some real content for any of this stuff to make sense IMO. At the moment there is no "second act" for Liara and Shepard."
http:/social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/105/index/1653313/3#1654614
"Yeah, thankfully many have hit the nail on the head already: Though you wouldnt know it from her utterly crap ME2 role that was a complete embarrassment, Liara is the most important character in the trilogy other than Shepard. Far more important than Tali easily. The only reason Tali has even been suggested is because of her horde of fanboys, but face facts, she isnt that important."
http://social.biowar...4813/78#1193284
"Yeah, I think jlb already knows I like her cuddle Liaras holo pic, but its worth saying here is well.
They should have given you the option to interact with it after the suicide mission like that. The fish die and the space hamster plays a miniature giant space violin, and Shepard quietly sobs at the poorly executed Liara cameo s/he had to endure."
http://social.biowar...4123/46#1195172
"Yeah, by then LIaras ****ty cameo role had already tainted my "emotional investment" in the entire game beyond repair. It has its nice side to it, but by then I was just too cynical and bitter about the whole game, and could only muster a sarcastic "well, at leat they gave us THAT!""
http://social.biowar...66886/1#1167149
"Just as you cannot stop Shepard from dying, you cannot stop Liara from saving Shepards life.
Deal with it Liara haters."
Judging by this, you are a troll and hate anyone who likes ME2 and you are pissed off because a blue allien was not in ME2.
#75
Posté 12 avril 2010 - 10:51
LiquidGrape
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Collider wrote...
This thread:
Oh no it isn't!
Have at you, Sir!
